Re: [newbie] Easier reading

2001-11-12 Thread Dan Jacobs

 Judging by experience, though, you'll never get people to agree on
 either approach.

I'm only keeping track in case any one wants to see the tally when it seems
this thread has lots it's momentum.

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RE: [newbie] Easier reading

2001-11-09 Thread Franki

doesn't matter

I don't like bottom posting either, but i respect peoples right to do it..

the reason I don't like it is because I am on 20 different mailing lists and
get 500 emails a day or more from them..

don't like having to scroll to the bottom of each message to see what the
response is..

if mail clients opened the mail starting at the bottom, then I'd go the
other way and only like that..



rgds

Frank
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dan Jacobs
Sent: Thursday, 8 November 2001 12:00 AM
To: newbie
Subject: [newbie] Easier reading


I know many will dislike this idea, but I'm gonna keep track of the
responses, and give the results when the thread is done.

Please vote in your reply by clearly stating either OK, No Way!, or Doesn't
matter in your reply.

Would you care if most of the reply messages on _this_ list were top
posted?  The reason I'm asking is because unless I make my mail programs
reading fonts incredibly tiny, I cannot get to the replies unless I take
the time to scroll down the message.

Incredibly time consuming action?  Nope, unless you are 1,000 messages
behind, or don't have alot of time to scroll down every message, it adds up
pretty quick then.

Look, I'm not trying to tell anybody what to do, I just think it would be
helpful to more than just me to get a big majority of replies top posted
for quicker reading.

What do ya think?


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Re: [newbie] Easier reading

2001-11-09 Thread Ed Tharp

like Franki, I read the top posted messages and may answer to them...the
heading is only what I read in _every_ message
- Original Message -
From: Franki [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: NEWBIE Mandrake List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 3:15 AM
Subject: RE: [newbie] Easier reading


 doesn't matter

 I don't like bottom posting either, but i respect peoples right to do it..

 the reason I don't like it is because I am on 20 different mailing lists
and
 get 500 emails a day or more from them..

 don't like having to scroll to the bottom of each message to see what the
 response is..

 if mail clients opened the mail starting at the bottom, then I'd go the
 other way and only like that..



 rgds

 Frank
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dan Jacobs
 Sent: Thursday, 8 November 2001 12:00 AM
 To: newbie
 Subject: [newbie] Easier reading


 I know many will dislike this idea, but I'm gonna keep track of the
 responses, and give the results when the thread is done.

 Please vote in your reply by clearly stating either OK, No Way!, or
Doesn't
 matter in your reply.

 Would you care if most of the reply messages on _this_ list were top
 posted?  The reason I'm asking is because unless I make my mail programs
 reading fonts incredibly tiny, I cannot get to the replies unless I take
 the time to scroll down the message.

 Incredibly time consuming action?  Nope, unless you are 1,000 messages
 behind, or don't have alot of time to scroll down every message, it adds
up
 pretty quick then.

 Look, I'm not trying to tell anybody what to do, I just think it would be
 helpful to more than just me to get a big majority of replies top posted
 for quicker reading.

 What do ya think?


 Diesel Dan
 http://DieselDan.net













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Re: [newbie] Easier reading

2001-11-09 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

Ed Tharp wrote:

like Franki, I read the top posted messages and may answer to them...the
heading is only what I read in _every_ message
- Original Message -
From: Franki [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: NEWBIE Mandrake List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 3:15 AM
Subject: RE: [newbie] Easier reading


doesn't matter

I don't like bottom posting either, but i respect peoples right to do it..

the reason I don't like it is because I am on 20 different mailing lists

and

get 500 emails a day or more from them..

don't like having to scroll to the bottom of each message to see what the
response is..

if mail clients opened the mail starting at the bottom, then I'd go the
other way and only like that..



rgds

Frank
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dan Jacobs
Sent: Thursday, 8 November 2001 12:00 AM
To: newbie
Subject: [newbie] Easier reading


I know many will dislike this idea, but I'm gonna keep track of the
responses, and give the results when the thread is done.

Please vote in your reply by clearly stating either OK, No Way!, or

Doesn't

matter in your reply.

Would you care if most of the reply messages on _this_ list were top
posted?  The reason I'm asking is because unless I make my mail programs
reading fonts incredibly tiny, I cannot get to the replies unless I take
the time to scroll down the message.

Incredibly time consuming action?  Nope, unless you are 1,000 messages
behind, or don't have alot of time to scroll down every message, it adds

up

pretty quick then.

Look, I'm not trying to tell anybody what to do, I just think it would be
helpful to more than just me to get a big majority of replies top posted
for quicker reading.

What do ya think?


Diesel Dan
http://DieselDan.net













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So if you jump into a thread half way through, how do you know what 
other people have said?

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RE: [newbie] Easier reading

2001-11-09 Thread Franki


If I don't know what the thread is about, I'll read it once, then I know...

being forced to scroll down all of them is a pain, remember how many posts
are in some threads..


rgds

Frank

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gordon
Burgess-Parker
Sent: Friday, 9 November 2001 8:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Easier reading


Ed Tharp wrote:

like Franki, I read the top posted messages and may answer to them...the
heading is only what I read in _every_ message
- Original Message -
From: Franki [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: NEWBIE Mandrake List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 3:15 AM
Subject: RE: [newbie] Easier reading


doesn't matter

I don't like bottom posting either, but i respect peoples right to do it..

the reason I don't like it is because I am on 20 different mailing lists

and

get 500 emails a day or more from them..

don't like having to scroll to the bottom of each message to see what the
response is..

if mail clients opened the mail starting at the bottom, then I'd go the
other way and only like that..



rgds

Frank
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dan Jacobs
Sent: Thursday, 8 November 2001 12:00 AM
To: newbie
Subject: [newbie] Easier reading


I know many will dislike this idea, but I'm gonna keep track of the
responses, and give the results when the thread is done.

Please vote in your reply by clearly stating either OK, No Way!, or

Doesn't

matter in your reply.

Would you care if most of the reply messages on _this_ list were top
posted?  The reason I'm asking is because unless I make my mail programs
reading fonts incredibly tiny, I cannot get to the replies unless I take
the time to scroll down the message.

Incredibly time consuming action?  Nope, unless you are 1,000 messages
behind, or don't have alot of time to scroll down every message, it adds

up

pretty quick then.

Look, I'm not trying to tell anybody what to do, I just think it would be
helpful to more than just me to get a big majority of replies top posted
for quicker reading.

What do ya think?


Diesel Dan
http://DieselDan.net









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Re: [newbie] Easier reading

2001-11-09 Thread Randy Kramer

Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
 So if you jump into a thread half way through, how do you know what
 other people have said?

It depends -- I'm not advocating top posting to every message -- but I
prefer it when possible.  It's also useful to snip things so a minimum
is quoted.  If you really want to read what everyone has said, consider
going back to the original post and rereading the entire thread. 

Usually, with a few hints in the way of on point quotes from the email
someone is responding to, I can get my head back into a thread if I've
read the previous posts.  It gets harder the more messages you receive.

just another of my $.02,
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Re: [newbie] Easier reading

2001-11-09 Thread Jan Wilson

* Dan Jacobs [EMAIL PROTECTED] [011109 16:11]:
 Would you care if most of the reply messages on _this_ list were top
 posted?

I'll have to vote AGAINST top posting.  As you can see, bottom posting
is fine if you take the time to edit the quotes.

Top posting encourages sending the entire thread in each reply, and
there are those of us who still pay high costs for very limited
bandwidth.

Judging by experience, though, you'll never get people to agree on
either approach.  The only thing you can get agreement on is that
people SHOULD edit quotes down to the bare minimum.

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Re: [newbie] Easier reading

2001-11-09 Thread Randy Kramer

Jan Wilson wrote:
 Top posting encourages sending the entire thread in each reply, and
 there are those of us who still pay high costs for very limited
 bandwidth.

I'm not sure bottom posting does any better.

 The only thing you can get agreement on is that
 people SHOULD edit quotes down to the bare minimum.

Absolutely

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Re: [newbie] Easier reading

2001-11-08 Thread Randy Kramer

OK! (to top posting)

It would be good if the first few lines of a post gave as much useful
information as possible.  

That's not always easy to do, especially if you reply to detail(s) of a
previous post and must position each reply near an appropriate quote
from the previous post.

Nevertheless, I think it is a good thing to strive for.  Also, snip as
much of the previous post as possible.  Leave close to the minimum that
is required for context.

Just my $.02.

Randy Kramer

Dan Jacobs wrote:
 Would you care if most of the reply messages on _this_ list were top
 posted?



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Re: [newbie] Easier reading

2001-11-08 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Thursday 08 November 2001 12:04 pm, Dan Jacobs wrote:

 Would you care if most of the reply messages on _this_ list were
 top posted? 

Doesn't matter 
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Re: [newbie] Easier reading

2001-11-08 Thread skinky

OK

and I agree with Randy's comments.

skinky
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On Fri, 09 Nov 2001 06:04, Dan Jacobs wrote:
|  I know many will dislike this idea, but I'm gonna keep track of the
|  responses, and give the results when the thread is done.
|
|  Please vote in your reply by clearly stating either OK, No Way!, or
| Doesn't matter in your reply.
|
|  Would you care if most of the reply messages on _this_ list were top
|  posted?  The reason I'm asking is because unless I make my mail
| programs reading fonts incredibly tiny, I cannot get to the replies
| unless I take the time to scroll down the message.
|
|  Incredibly time consuming action?  Nope, unless you are 1,000 messages
|  behind, or don't have alot of time to scroll down every message, it
| adds up pretty quick then.
|
|  Look, I'm not trying to tell anybody what to do, I just think it would
| be helpful to more than just me to get a big majority of replies top
| posted for quicker reading.
|
|  What do ya think?
|
|
|  Diesel Dan
|  http://DieselDan.net



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Re: [newbie] Easier reading

2001-11-08 Thread Bryan Tyson

On Thursday 08 November 2001 12:04, Dan wrote:

 Look, I'm not trying to tell anybody what to do, I just think it
 would be helpful to more than just me to get a big majority of
 replies top posted for quicker reading.

This is my vote against top posting.

I hate reading replies that I don't know what they are replying to. The 
reader has to scroll down to the bottom to find out what the previous 
person said that the current person is commenting on.

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