Re: [newbie] Ethernet ADSL modem

2004-11-28 Thread Scott Manning
problem fixed.. got  a D-link 4 port modem router thanks


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[newbie] Ethernet ADSL modem

2004-11-26 Thread Scott Manning
Hello again;
I am in Australia and thinking of just buying an ethernet adsl modem to save 
the USB set-up hassels. So in an effort to determine what exact models were 
supported I ran the wizard in KDE. Now here's the thing... it asks you for 
your provider and Australia is not even listed! :(  So what does that mean? 
I have to go about it from the command line?

Secondly, are there any modems that you can recommend using for MDK 10.1?
Thanks
Scotty 



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Re: [newbie] Ethernet ADSL modem

2004-11-26 Thread Lanman
Scott Manning wrote:
Hello again;
I am in Australia and thinking of just buying an ethernet adsl modem to 
save the USB set-up hassels. So in an effort to determine what exact 
models were supported I ran the wizard in KDE. Now here's the thing... 
it asks you for your provider and Australia is not even listed! :(  So 
what does that mean? I have to go about it from the command line?

Secondly, are there any modems that you can recommend using for MDK 10.1?
Thanks
Scotty

You can confirm this with Stephen on the list, but any external ADSL 
modem that includes one RJ45 connector and supports PPPOE and PPPOA 
should work, but make sure that the modem has a web-based interface. 
I've used Linksys, Dlink and GVC. They all work fine, but the GVC has 
been bullet-proof for me. I highly recommend the GVC BB0060 modem since 
I've been using it for the last year and a half without a problem, and 
so have many of my clients.

Have a look at http://www.gentek.com
--
Lanman
Registered Linux User #190712


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Re: [newbie] Ethernet ADSL modem

2004-11-26 Thread Brian Parish
On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 11:21 am, Scott Manning wrote:
 Hello again;

 I am in Australia and thinking of just buying an ethernet adsl modem to
 save the USB set-up hassels. So in an effort to determine what exact models
 were supported I ran the wizard in KDE. Now here's the thing... it asks you
 for your provider and Australia is not even listed! :(  So what does that
 mean? I have to go about it from the command line?

 Secondly, are there any modems that you can recommend using for MDK 10.1?

 Thanks

 Scotty

I'm also at your end of the world - Melbourne to be a little more specific.  
As Lanman said, anything with an ethernet connection will cause you no grief, 
but perhaps it's a good move to first check what you want to do with it.  
i.e. If this is just a desktop using the internet, then it would make sense 
to use a modem/router, so you have a degree of firewall protection built 
right in and can plug in additional machine directly with a minimum of 
hassle.  If your main purpose is to have the attached machine run as a 
server, then a straight modem running it's own firewall might be more 
appropriate.

HTH
Brian


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Re: [newbie] Ethernet ADSL modem

2004-11-26 Thread John Layt
On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 12:53, Brian Parish wrote:
 I'm also at your end of the world - Melbourne to be a little more specific.
 As Lanman said, anything with an ethernet connection will cause you no
 grief, but perhaps it's a good move to first check what you want to do with
 it. i.e. If this is just a desktop using the internet, then it would make
 sense to use a modem/router, so you have a degree of firewall protection
 built right in and can plug in additional machine directly with a minimum
 of hassle.  If your main purpose is to have the attached machine run as a
 server, then a straight modem running it's own firewall might be more
 appropriate.

 HTH
 Brian

Hi guys,

Another Melbourne user here, sweating away in the 35 degrees heat (That's 
celsius, for you USians currently recovering from over-indulgence on turkey 
and cranberry sauce :-)

Just to reinforce what everyone is saying, an ethernet modem is basically a 
network server in it's own right.  It has it's own DHCP server to dish out an 
IP adress to any machine that connets to it via ethernet regardless of OS, 
and takes care of all the ADSL/PPP-OE/whatever on the other side without your 
machine needing to know about it.  You do all the configuration for your 
provider on the modem and not your machine.  On your machine, you just set up 
a network connection to a LAN on eth0 in the MCC and it just works :-)  

Just make sure that whatever modem you pick is able to configured via a web 
browser and not via a windows program, and uses javascript, not ActiveX, 
usually if the label says config via Netscape and not just IE you should be 
fine.  Virtually anything built in the last year should be OK, seeing how 
most of them now run some version of BSD or Linux and so are very 
cross-platform oriented and FOSS friendly.

I'm currently connected to Ozemail with the very basic Dlink DSL-302G dual 
ethernet/usb modem, the second cheapest modem on the market, and it's worked 
perfectly for the last year or so.  Originally connected direct to my laptop, 
it's now wired to a wireless router to give me more freedom (like right now 
sitting on the balcony trying to catch a breeze to cool down :-)

You can buy the 302G most places for about A$130, but if you buy the Ozemail 
starter-kit for A$100, it has one in the box as well as a line filter, and no 
compulsion to join Ozemail.  You can also find them online for as little as 
$90.  Another option I know works is the Linksys WAG54G combined modem and 
wireless router which I set-up for my parents.  It's about $220 to $250 and a 
very nice piece of kit.

If you can afford it, I would highly recommend getting an ADSL router with 
built-in SPI firewall for that extra security, and save you having to mess 
with shorewall on you own box.  It also gives you future options for adding 
more machines to your local net.  Wired-only ADSL routers weigh in at about 
$150 to $200, so reallly are a bargin for what you get.

Oh, and just a plug for Ozemail as provider: no minimum contract!

Cheers!

John.


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