Re: [newbie] HELP-BIOS can't recognize new HD
On Saturday 05 Apr 2003 6:51 am, Todd Slater wrote: Todd said: It actually took a little while to figure out that /tmp stuff, but hey, it's done now! Except now it reports the drive is 37GB instead of 40. Not sure what's up with that. Could this be the old 1000 vs. 1024 argument? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HELP-BIOS can't recognize new HD
On Saturday 05 April 2003 12:51 am, Todd Slater wrote: Todd said: Would you happen to know if updating the bios will affect anything on the HD? Or, will it just all of a sudden be able to see all 40 gigs and I can re-do my partitions? Ian said: A good question! To recognise all the drive you'll have to do a partition and format, so if you've got anything on there you want to keep, back it up. See if you can create a new partition in the extra bit. Anybody else come across this one? Anyhow Todd, let us know what happens! I was able to update the BIOS without any problem. Most of the problem I had was with my slave drive, which reported something about a bad superblock or something. It wouldn't boot so I went in to /etc/fstab and just commented out that bad partition and then I could boot into Mdk. My goal was to add the new space to /home. The problem was that the free space was at the end of the drive, and I had a /tmp partition between them. Having backed up everything I cared about, I deleted /home and rebooted in non-graphic mode. I logged in as root, copied /tmp to a backup directory, and somehow got /tmp umounted and ran diskdrake to delete /tmp, create a new /home and then recreate /tmp. I had problems starting x from command line, and it turned out to be another warning about superblock in /tmp. I reformatted /tmp, copied the stuff from backup there, restarted and bingo! It actually took a little while to figure out that /tmp stuff, but hey, it's done now! Except now it reports the drive is 37GB instead of 40. Not sure what's up with that. Thanks for your help. Todd You know (of course) that it really does not make all that much difference where /tmp is on the drive, in relation to other linux partitions -- Linux counter number 167806 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HELP-BIOS can't recognize new HD
On Saturday 05 Apr 2003 10:09 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 05 Apr 2003 6:51 am, Todd Slater wrote: Todd said: It actually took a little while to figure out that /tmp stuff, but hey, it's done now! Except now it reports the drive is 37GB instead of 40. Not sure what's up with that. Could this be the old 1000 vs. 1024 argument? 37 x 1024^3 = 39.7 x 10^9 40x10^9 = 37.253 x 1024^3 Looks like you're right. It wont actually be either of these numbers, of course, since although bytes-per-sector is a power of two, sectors-per-track, tracks-per-surface and surfaces-per-unit are not generally powers of either two or ten. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HELP-BIOS can't recognize new HD
The latest beta BIOS for the P5A and the P5A-B will recognise large hard drives. I'M running one of each with 40Gb Maxtor discs (Under W98) with no difficulties.(other than the MS related ones!) The BIOS is No 1011.005 and can be downloaded from http://www.asus.com/support/download/item.aspx?ModelName=P5A Be warned that the ASUS site is probably one of the most annoying that you are likely to come across - it seems to be designed to hide the information you are looking for and each page takes an eternity to load! If you can find your way into the German FTP site things go much quicker. There's also more to choose from. Ian In the interests of economy, the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off. - Original Message - From: todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] HELP-BIOS can't recognize new HD On Sunday 30 March 2003 04:05 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote: On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 15:33:38 -0500 todd slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anybody knows of a good but cheap mobo that will support large hard drives and take an AMD [EMAIL PROTECTED], and at least 512MB RAM, I'm all ears. Todd, another option be to get an add-on pci ide controller card. Since they operate with there own bios they would be able to bypass the hd limitations of your mobo bios. You can find them online for $25 or less. Charles That's a great tip, thanks Charles! I'm going to check it out soon as I get some thorns pulled out! Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] HELP-BIOS can't recognize new HD
So I got a new hard drive and thought I'd install 9.1 on it. The problem is, I can't get my bios to see is as either master or slave. I skipped the autodetection and was able to install 9.1 on it, but I guess bios doesn't see the drive still and it won't boot into it. I tried to create a boot floppy but that gives me an error and prompts for a system disk. I thought maybe I had to format the HD (Seagate) first, so I tried to get a dos image, but most of those are .exe and I don't have Windoze. The one non-.exe image I found was in German and when I tried to run fdisk it returned some error. If I run the new HD as slave, it won't boot the old HD. I went to Seagate's site and tried to get their DiscWizard, but their bootable floppy is--you guessed it--an .exe. I have 9.1 on my old hd, but this is really annoying. The 9.1 install was sweet, and KDE is actually pretty fast on my machine. And fonts are purty!! Can you offer some pointers for this [EMAIL PROTECTED] MOBO-Asus p5a HD-Seagate ST340014a (40gb) Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HELP-BIOS can't recognize new HD
On Sunday March 30 2003 11:03 am, todd slater wrote: So I got a new hard drive and thought I'd install 9.1 on it. The problem is, I can't get my bios to see is as either master or slave. I skipped the autodetection and was able to install 9.1 on it, but I guess bios doesn't see the drive still and it won't boot into it. I tried to create a boot floppy but that gives me an error and prompts for a system disk. You were able to do the 9.1 install because your bios can see the drive you had the CD in, and Linux could see your new drive. BUT, this still leaves you with your motherboard/bios not seein it. How big is the drive? and how old is your bios? It could be that the bios doesn't recognize drives over a certain size. You can get that info from the motherboard's manual or website. Until you get bios to recognize it, you're sort'a SOL. The drive doesn't need to be formatted first for this. If the bios can handle drives that size: Make certain the drive's jumper is correctly (check again ;) set to master or slave, not cable select. You can sometimes get away with not doin so, but often the master drive must be on the ide cable's end connector, and slave drive on the middle connector. If only one drive is on the cable, it must be master, and the end connector should be used. Try a differnet ide cable, reseat the connections. I've also seen some drives where there were more than one way to set the jumper for master. I've also seen drives where the diagram on the drive or it's instructions, didn't match the (number of) pins. I had an IBM like that, had to go to IBM's website to get the correct diagram. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HELP-BIOS can't recognize new HD
On Sunday 30 Mar 2003 7:16 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Sunday March 30 2003 11:03 am, todd slater wrote: So I got a new hard drive and thought I'd install 9.1 on it. The problem is, I can't get my bios to see is as either master or slave. I skipped the autodetection and was able to install 9.1 on it, but I guess bios doesn't see the drive still and it won't boot into it. I tried to create a boot floppy but that gives me an error and prompts for a system disk. You were able to do the 9.1 install because your bios can see the drive you had the CD in, and Linux could see your new drive. BUT, this still leaves you with your motherboard/bios not seein it. How big is the drive? and how old is your bios? It could be that the bios doesn't recognize drives over a certain size. You can get that info from the motherboard's manual or website. Until you get bios to recognize it, you're sort'a SOL. The drive doesn't need to be formatted first for this. If the bios can handle drives that size: Make certain the drive's jumper is correctly (check again ;) set to master or slave, not cable select. You can sometimes get away with not doin so, but often the master drive must be on the ide cable's end connector, and slave drive on the middle connector. If only one drive is on the cable, it must be master, and the end connector should be used. Try a differnet ide cable, reseat the connections. I've also seen some drives where there were more than one way to set the jumper for master. I've also seen drives where the diagram on the drive or it's instructions, didn't match the (number of) pins. I had an IBM like that, had to go to IBM's website to get the correct diagram. IIRC Seagates don't use the same jumper scheme as most others. I think it has different settings for stand alone and master with slave, and I don't think it accepts the no jumper setup that many others do. Could be wrong, but definitely worth checking up. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HELP-BIOS can't recognize new HD
On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 15:33:38 -0500 todd slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anybody knows of a good but cheap mobo that will support large hard drives and take an AMD [EMAIL PROTECTED], and at least 512MB RAM, I'm all ears. Todd, another option be to get an add-on pci ide controller card. Since they operate with there own bios they would be able to bypass the hd limitations of your mobo bios. You can find them online for $25 or less. Charles -- Tonight's the night: Sleep in a eucalyptus tree. - Mandrake Linux 9.1 on PurpleDragon Kernel- 2.4.21-0.13mdk - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
