Re: [newbie] How to install my 56k modem

1999-04-30 Thread Martin Barnard

On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, you wrote:
 Does this mean that Diamond MM modems won't work?  I have a 28.8 and a 56K.
 Both have software drivers (.inf files) that are loaded, but I think both
 have processors on them.I think I will just need to reset the jumpers on
 the modem to disable PnP and set the IRQ manually.Am I wrong here
 anyone?
 I'm reading everything before I install.   I may just do it this weekend
 though. grin
 Rip6
 
 

Snip

I'm using a Diamond SupraExpress 56e Pro on my installation with no problems if
that helps you? Dunno if it's a multimedia tho'.

Martin Barnard



Re: [newbie] How to install my 56k modem

1999-04-29 Thread Nick Kay

At 10:03 29/04/99 -0500, you wrote:
Does this mean that Diamond MM modems won't work?  I have a 28.8 and a 56K.
Both have software drivers (.inf files) that are loaded, but I think both
have processors on them.I think I will just need to reset the jumpers on
the modem to disable PnP and set the IRQ manually.Am I wrong here
anyone?
I'm reading everything before I install.   I may just do it this weekend
though. grin
Rip6


.inf files aren't really drivers - try reading one. :)
If you have links where you can set COM ports and
interrupts, you should be OK. Although I had a
Diamond modem that sortof worked - I put it
down to faulty hardware.

hih
nick@nexnix







Boon Kee Soh wrote:

 I have a Blaster Modem 28.8 and Merz 56K. Are they real modems? I am
having
 problems dialing up to my ISP with all the "right" setting.
  If it's what is generically referred to as a "winmodem",
  then I'm afraid you are out of luck.
  Linux only supports "real" modems that don't require
  additional software drivers.
  --
  Lloyd Osten
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
I've never heard of Merz, so I can't tell you anything about
it. If you modem(s) came with software drivers that you must
load (Win 98 usually does this automatically for you) before
it works, then you have "winmodems" and they're unsupported
under Linux.
--
Lloyd Osten
[EMAIL PROTECTED]







RE: [newbie] How to install my 56k modem

1999-04-29 Thread Birchall, Richard

Ripcrd6 [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] said:

Does this mean that Diamond MM modems won't work?  I have a 28.8 and
a 56K.  Both have software drivers (.inf files) that are loaded, but
I think both have processors on them.


.inf files are not drivers, they are text files with configuration
information, e.g. modem init strings.


Regards,

Richard






Re: [newbie] How to install my 56k modem

1999-04-29 Thread Michael R. Batchelor

At 10:03 AM 4/29/99 -0500, you wrote:
Does this mean that Diamond MM modems won't work?  I have a 28.8 and a 56K.

Don't know anything about these specific modems.

Both have software drivers (.inf files) that are loaded, but I think both

In windows an inf file is an instruction file for how windows is supposed
to deal with the device. A regular external modem which *is not* a winmodem
will have an inf file if it comes with a windows device installation
routine. (Usually to take advantage of some "specialness" or extend the
command set past the standard AT commands.)

have processors on them.I think I will just need to reset the jumpers on

There are a couple of hardware configurations which get the generic name
"winmodem". The first is a true winmodem where all the modem card has on it
is a few tone converter chips and the entire modem functions are handled by
a program which runs in the windows environment on the computer's main CPU.
This is by far the slowest setup, and least likely to ever have any Linux
support.

The second is a DSP (Digital Signal Processor) based board which requires a
piece of program code loaded into it to work. The DSP chip is really a
highly specialized CPU chip. So it doesn't require anything from the
computer other than the service of downloading it's instruction set. For
some of these, if you boot windows so the instruction set gets loaded, then
reboot and load Linux *without turning off the power* they will work.
Others don't work because they reset on the reboot rather than on power
loss. (I have no idea which models are which. Someone posted a great modem
resource site some time back. Anyone still have it?)

The second category, DSP processor which requires code loaded into it, is
probably going to be the first group to get Linux support as Linux becomes
more popular because all that must be written is a small program to shove
the DSP  instruction set into the card and a device driver to talk to the
hardware's physical address. Conceivably it could be call from the rc
scripts and the modem would work from then on. (As an aside, it's probably
possible to reverse engineer some of the windows loader programs, strip the
DSP code from it, and write a device driver and code loader program for
Linux without support from the manufacturer. But it's probably a few
hundred hours of work, and it's almost defiantly a copyright violation to
redistribute the DSP code. The best bet would be for several hundred users
to demand Linux support from the manufacturer.)

the modem to disable PnP and set the IRQ manually.Am I wrong here
anyone?

If it's really a "traditional" modem, then you're all set. In fact, if you
can disable the PnP and manually set the IRQ you probably have a
"traditional" modem rather than a dysfunctional one.

MB
--
Michael R. Batchelor
Industrial Informatics  Instrumentation, Inc.



Re: [newbie] How to install my 56k modem

1999-04-29 Thread Ripcrd6

They are a little flaky.  I had to change the interupt for COM 3 in the BIOS
settings to allow them to detect it and COM 1 and 2 didn't work.  I thought
that the big problem was the old Packard Bell I was trying to shoehorn them
into.   I'm dragging that baby into current technology like an anchor.  I
let my wife use it for email.   It is a little hard on hard drives though.
And it has a proprietary CD-sound card hookup.
Rip6
-Original Message-
From: Nick Kay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] How to install my 56k modem


At 10:03 29/04/99 -0500, you wrote:
Does this mean that Diamond MM modems won't work?  I have a 28.8 and a
56K.
Both have software drivers (.inf files) that are loaded, but I think both
have processors on them.I think I will just need to reset the jumpers
on
the modem to disable PnP and set the IRQ manually.Am I wrong here
anyone?
I'm reading everything before I install.   I may just do it this weekend
though. grin
Rip6


.inf files aren't really drivers - try reading one. :)
If you have links where you can set COM ports and
interrupts, you should be OK. Although I had a
Diamond modem that sortof worked - I put it
down to faulty hardware.

hih
nick@nexnix







Boon Kee Soh wrote:

 I have a Blaster Modem 28.8 and Merz 56K. Are they real modems? I am
having
 problems dialing up to my ISP with all the "right" setting.
  If it's what is generically referred to as a "winmodem",
  then I'm afraid you are out of luck.
  Linux only supports "real" modems that don't require
  additional software drivers.
  --
  Lloyd Osten
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
I've never heard of Merz, so I can't tell you anything about
it. If you modem(s) came with software drivers that you must
load (Win 98 usually does this automatically for you) before
it works, then you have "winmodems" and they're unsupported
under Linux.
--
Lloyd Osten
[EMAIL PROTECTED]









Re: [newbie] How to install my 56k modem

1999-04-29 Thread terrydavis

Ripcrd6 wrote:

 Does this mean that Diamond MM modems won't work?  I have a 28.8 and a 56K.
 Both have software drivers (.inf files) that are loaded, but I think both
 have processors on them.I think I will just need to reset the jumpers on
 the modem to disable PnP and set the IRQ manually.Am I wrong here
 anyone?
 I'm reading everything before I install.   I may just do it this weekend
 though. grin
 Rip6

 Boon Kee Soh wrote:
 
  I have a Blaster Modem 28.8 and Merz 56K. Are they real modems? I am
 having
  problems dialing up to my ISP with all the "right" setting.
   If it's what is generically referred to as a "winmodem",
   then I'm afraid you are out of luck.
   Linux only supports "real" modems that don't require
   additional software drivers.
   --
   Lloyd Osten
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 I've never heard of Merz, so I can't tell you anything about
 it. If you modem(s) came with software drivers that you must
 load (Win 98 usually does this automatically for you) before
 it works, then you have "winmodems" and they're unsupported
 under Linux.
 --
 Lloyd Osten
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Either one should work fine if you can configure the IRQ and disable the PNP.
good luck
Terry




Re: [newbie] How to install my 56k modem

1999-04-29 Thread Lloyd

Ripcrd6 wrote:
 
 Does this mean that Diamond MM modems won't work?  I have a 28.8 and a 56K.
 Both have software drivers (.inf files) that are loaded, but I think both
 have processors on them.I think I will just need to reset the jumpers on
 the modem to disable PnP and set the IRQ manually.Am I wrong here
 anyone?
 I'm reading everything before I install.   I may just do it this weekend
 though. grin
 Rip6
 
 Boon Kee Soh wrote:
 
  I have a Blaster Modem 28.8 and Merz 56K. Are they real modems? I am
 having
  problems dialing up to my ISP with all the "right" setting.
   If it's what is generically referred to as a "winmodem",
   then I'm afraid you are out of luck.
   Linux only supports "real" modems that don't require
   additional software drivers.
   --
   Lloyd Osten
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 I've never heard of Merz, so I can't tell you anything about
 it. If you modem(s) came with software drivers that you must
 load (Win 98 usually does this automatically for you) before
 it works, then you have "winmodems" and they're unsupported
 under Linux.
 --
 Lloyd Osten
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

True (what I like to refer to as "real") modems are totally
self contained and don't require any special software to
operate. That's why they work with any OS;they don't need
specific OS code. Winmodems are just a way for manufacturers
to cut the price, by eliminating some of the hardware (and
its related processing) So your main CPU does some of the
work that a "real" modem can do by itself. 
-- 
Lloyd Osten
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: [newbie] How to install my 56k modem based on PCI bus?

1999-04-28 Thread Birchall, Richard

John l.yn [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] said:

Now, I meet a new question: How to install my inner modem of 56k based
on PCI bus.  I have installed the modem in win98, all thing is ok. But
the product havent driver for linux. What driver shall I choose?


Time to buy a new modem...

See:

  http://www.kc.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html


Regards,

Richard