Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgradeatyour own risk)
I downloaded the Fortify untared it and ran the script to install it. It asked me if I wanted to Fortify this browser Y, N, Q. I answered Y then it came back Do you want to Fortify this browser Y, N, Q? to infinity? Anyway it didn't work did anyone have any luck installing Fortify plugin? Jeanette Shoot, I couldn't even get the site do open to download the fortify program. I'm trying to download the 128 version of Netscape 4.7 and not have a lot of luck with that either. Rick -- "I don't want to swim in a roped off sea," JB
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"David P. Greenberg" wrote: On Fri, 01 Oct 1999, Steve Philp wrote: Alan Shoemaker wrote: Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Alan Shoemaker wrote: Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Eosnet Team wrote: http://www.netscape.com/download/selectlanguage_1_702_411.html Here is a link to the latest version of netscape. (maybe more stable?) I wouldn't recommend it, it's just as broken as the 4.61. (everybody remebers the segfault on link insertion right?) snip-o-mainia --Just as an aside, I've found that Navigator alone, without getting the whole Communicator seems to work OK. I've had no freeze ups with it, and I actually am using it quite a bit. Davidand I'm using Communicator (mail client as well as browser) on a daily basis without any problems (except that it doesn't have 128 bit encryption). Alan
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Jeanette Russo wrote: A Alan where did you find the fortify for the Linux version of Netscape I only see the Windows and NT versions? Can you send me a link for the Linux one? Thanks Jeanette JeanetteI downloaded from this site: http://www.fortify.net/ the following version (I've not yet had the time to try it): Unix v1.4.4 (Browsers up to v4.61) Thanks Alan I am going to give it a try because I have to boot to Windows to access my Online Bank. Jeanette click here Alan Jeanettelet me know if and how it works. Alan
Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgradeatyour own risk)
Jeanette Russo wrote: Jeanette Russo wrote: A Alan where did you find the fortify for the Linux version of Netscape I only see the Windows and NT versions? Can you send me a link for the Linux one? Thanks Jeanette Unix v1.4.4 (Browsers up to v4.61) Thanks Alan I am going to give it a try because I have to boot to Windows to access my Online Bank. Jeanette click here Alan I downloaded the Fortify untared it and ran the script to install it. It asked me if I wanted to Fortify this browser Y, N, Q. I answered Y then it came back Do you want to Fortify this browser Y, N, Q? to infinity? Anyway it didn't work did anyone have any luck installing Fortify plugin? Jeanette Jeanettesure. I opened a console and signed in as root, then unarchived the tarball. It made it's own subdirectory in my root directory. I read the readme file and then did a search to find the netscape executable (it was /usr/lib/netscape/netscape-communicator), then I navigated to the subdirectory that the archive created and typed: ./Fortify.sh /usr/lib/netscape/netscape-communicator It installed asking a few questions along the way and finally ran netscape and tested the encryption on the test page at the Fortify web site. Alan
Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgradeatyour own risk)
Alan Shoemaker wrote: Jeanette Russo wrote: Jeanette Russo wrote: A Alan where did you find the fortify for the Linux version of Netscape I only see the Windows and NT versions? Can you send me a link for the Linux one? Thanks Jeanette Unix v1.4.4 (Browsers up to v4.61) Thanks Alan I am going to give it a try because I have to boot to Windows to access my Online Bank. Jeanette click here Alan I downloaded the Fortify untared it and ran the script to install it. It asked me if I wanted to Fortify this browser Y, N, Q. I answered Y then it came back Do you want to Fortify this browser Y, N, Q? to infinity? Anyway it didn't work did anyone have any luck installing Fortify plugin? Jeanette Jeanettesure. I opened a console and signed in as root, then unarchived the tarball. It made it's own subdirectory in my root directory. I read the readme file and then did a search to find the netscape executable (it was /usr/lib/netscape/netscape-communicator), then I navigated to the subdirectory that the archive created and typed: ./Fortify.sh /usr/lib/netscape/netscape-communicator It installed asking a few questions along the way and finally ran netscape and tested the encryption on the test page at the Fortify web site. Alan Alan I did the exact same thing but the last question where it asks you do you want to fortify this browser? Y, N, Q I put Y and it just keeps asking the same question and it fails the test so it didn't work but I am not sure why? Jeanette
Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgradeatyour own risk)
Alan Shoemaker wrote: Steve Philp wrote: Alan Shoemaker wrote: Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Alan Shoemaker wrote: Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Eosnet Team wrote: http://www.netscape.com/download/selectlanguage_1_702_411.html Here is a link to the latest version of netscape. (maybe more stable?) I wouldn't recommend it, it's just as broken as the 4.61. (everybody remebers the segfault on link insertion right?) -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon --Axalon EXCUSE ME!! That statement really puts me off! 4.61 is what is in Mandrake's updates for 6.0!!?? It was recommended in this forum as an acceptable fix for the problems associated with 4.5. Now you say this new (4.7) version is just as bad as the fix we had for the Mandrake 6.0 distribution (which I still am using). Well, what's that mean, EXACTLY!!?? If 4.7 is just as bad as 4.61 then upgrading to it shouldn't be any more of a problem than continuing to use 4.61, or should it??!! Sheeesh Alan Your excused, I do not thing you've been following the netscape saga closely enough. They link the glibc version against 2.0, we supply 2.0.1 and 2.1.1, both of wich are incompatable with the binarys. The version of netscape we currently ship is the libc5 with a really fancy loader. I've installed both the glibc and libc5 versions here, libc5 fails to even load because it doeesn't use the loader (exactly what one would expect), the glibc (still linked against old glibc) acts just like the orignal 4.61 that was released, java works when it wants, you have to make sure to click "ok" and not just hit enter on a passowrd dialog, inserting a link in composer still causes an instant segfault. So yes, my expectations of netscape held true, and i stand by my original analysis of netscape. Axalonthat's probably so. And I'm confused. Is the glibc version I ordered on CD not going to work (I mean work like the 4.61 version from updates that I'm using now)? From what you said above, the answer is no. Ok, so is any version not massaged and customized by Mandrake going to work (especially one with 128 bit encryption) like the update's 4.61? I believe that the answer is no also (from your comments above). Is there any way I can get a working copy usable with Mandrake 6.0/6.1 that includes 128 bit encryption (my on-line bank requires it). Thanks, and I'm sorry for the overly-emphatic message (I wrote it in during the wrong moment in time). (-: Alan I seem to recall seeing a utility that will patch your existing Netscape to support 128bit encryption. I don't recall the name (Fortify comes to mind, but I think that's an SSL util). Searching Google or Freshmeat for "netscape encryption" may turn something up, though. -- Steve Philp Steveyep, '"netscape encryption" fortify' on google found it. I'm downloading now. Thanks. Alan Alan where did you find the fortify for the Linux version of Netscape I only see the Windows and NT versions? Can you send me a link for the Linux one? Thanks Jeanette
Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgradeatyour own risk)
On Fri, 01 Oct 1999, Steve Philp wrote: Alan Shoemaker wrote: Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Alan Shoemaker wrote: Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Eosnet Team wrote: http://www.netscape.com/download/selectlanguage_1_702_411.html Here is a link to the latest version of netscape. (maybe more stable?) I wouldn't recommend it, it's just as broken as the 4.61. (everybody remebers the segfault on link insertion right?) snip-o-mainia --Just as an aside, I've found that Navigator alone, without getting the whole Communicator seems to work OK. I've had no freeze ups with it, and I actually am using it quite a bit. David P. Greenberg Bitco Electronics "In Service to the Recording Industry" *Confirmed Linux Newbie* **Never use a big word when substituting a diminutive one would suffice.**
Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgradeatyour own risk)
Alan where did you find the fortify for the Linux version of Netscape I only see the Windows and NT versions? Can you send me a link for the Linux one? Thanks Jeanette please post to our board Rick "Mulerider" Murphy -- "I don't want to swim in a roped off sea," JB
Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgradeatyour own risk)
A Alan where did you find the fortify for the Linux version of Netscape I only see the Windows and NT versions? Can you send me a link for the Linux one? Thanks Jeanette JeanetteI downloaded from this site: http://www.fortify.net/ the following version (I've not yet had the time to try it): Unix v1.4.4 (Browsers up to v4.61) Thanks Alan I am going to give it a try because I have to boot to Windows to access my Online Bank. Jeanette click here Alan
Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgradeatyour own risk)
On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Alan Shoemaker wrote: Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Eosnet Team wrote: http://www.netscape.com/download/selectlanguage_1_702_411.html Here is a link to the latest version of netscape. (maybe more stable?) I wouldn't recommend it, it's just as broken as the 4.61. (everybody remebers the segfault on link insertion right?) -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon --Axalon EXCUSE ME!! That statement really puts me off! 4.61 is what is in Mandrake's updates for 6.0!!?? It was recommended in this forum as an acceptable fix for the problems associated with 4.5. Now you say this new (4.7) version is just as bad as the fix we had for the Mandrake 6.0 distribution (which I still am using). Well, what's that mean, EXACTLY!!?? If 4.7 is just as bad as 4.61 then upgrading to it shouldn't be any more of a problem than continuing to use 4.61, or should it??!! Sheeesh Alan Your excused, I do not thing you've been following the netscape saga closely enough. They link the glibc version against 2.0, we supply 2.0.1 and 2.1.1, both of wich are incompatable with the binarys. The version of netscape we currently ship is the libc5 with a really fancy loader. I've installed both the glibc and libc5 versions here, libc5 fails to even load because it doeesn't use the loader (exactly what one would expect), the glibc (still linked against old glibc) acts just like the orignal 4.61 that was released, java works when it wants, you have to make sure to click "ok" and not just hit enter on a passowrd dialog, inserting a link in composer still causes an instant segfault. So yes, my expectations of netscape held true, and i stand by my original analysis of netscape. -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgradeatyour own risk)
On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Steve Philp wrote: Thanks, but I'll stick with the problems I know about rather than inheriting a whole new pile of bugs. That just happened to get shovled onto the first pile. :)
Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgradeatyour own risk)
Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Alan Shoemaker wrote: Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Eosnet Team wrote: http://www.netscape.com/download/selectlanguage_1_702_411.html Here is a link to the latest version of netscape. (maybe more stable?) I wouldn't recommend it, it's just as broken as the 4.61. (everybody remebers the segfault on link insertion right?) -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon --Axalon EXCUSE ME!! That statement really puts me off! 4.61 is what is in Mandrake's updates for 6.0!!?? It was recommended in this forum as an acceptable fix for the problems associated with 4.5. Now you say this new (4.7) version is just as bad as the fix we had for the Mandrake 6.0 distribution (which I still am using). Well, what's that mean, EXACTLY!!?? If 4.7 is just as bad as 4.61 then upgrading to it shouldn't be any more of a problem than continuing to use 4.61, or should it??!! Sheeesh Alan Your excused, I do not thing you've been following the netscape saga closely enough. They link the glibc version against 2.0, we supply 2.0.1 and 2.1.1, both of wich are incompatable with the binarys. The version of netscape we currently ship is the libc5 with a really fancy loader. I've installed both the glibc and libc5 versions here, libc5 fails to even load because it doeesn't use the loader (exactly what one would expect), the glibc (still linked against old glibc) acts just like the orignal 4.61 that was released, java works when it wants, you have to make sure to click "ok" and not just hit enter on a passowrd dialog, inserting a link in composer still causes an instant segfault. So yes, my expectations of netscape held true, and i stand by my original analysis of netscape. Axalonthat's probably so. And I'm confused. Is the glibc version I ordered on CD not going to work (I mean work like the 4.61 version from updates that I'm using now)? From what you said above, the answer is no. Ok, so is any version not massaged and customized by Mandrake going to work (especially one with 128 bit encryption) like the update's 4.61? I believe that the answer is no also (from your comments above). Is there any way I can get a working copy usable with Mandrake 6.0/6.1 that includes 128 bit encryption (my on-line bank requires it). Thanks, and I'm sorry for the overly-emphatic message (I wrote it in during the wrong moment in time). (-: Alan
Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgradeatyour own risk)
On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Alan Shoemaker wrote: Axalonthat's probably so. And I'm confused. Is the glibc version I ordered on CD not going to work (I mean work like the 4.61 version from updates that I'm using now)? From what you said above, the answer is no. Ok, so is any version not massaged and customized by Mandrake going to work (especially one with 128 bit encryption) like the update's 4.61? I believe that the answer is no also (from your comments above). Is there any way I can get a working copy usable with Mandrake 6.0/6.1 that includes 128 bit encryption (my on-line bank requires it). Thanks, and I'm sorry for the overly-emphatic message (I wrote it in during the wrong moment in time). (-: Alan Apologies, now you all know why I don't write books, and why you don't see me listed as writing any of the documentation. I tend to confuse 75% of any given group of people. (you can see how that gets hairy on a one to one basis) :-) Not knowing what you ordered from where, they'll probably send you a windows disc.. I was told of the release mere moments before it hit slashdot, and was only able to get the part of the files before the @home link to netscape went down. Untill i get time to test them all on a 6.1 system, mine has cooker on it right now, I still stand by "stick with what you've got, unless it doesn't work at all". Of course if anyone does decide to upgrade (its your system after all), This is the perfect place to discuss success or failure as always.. -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgradeatyour own risk)
Alan Shoemaker wrote: Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Alan Shoemaker wrote: Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Eosnet Team wrote: http://www.netscape.com/download/selectlanguage_1_702_411.html Here is a link to the latest version of netscape. (maybe more stable?) I wouldn't recommend it, it's just as broken as the 4.61. (everybody remebers the segfault on link insertion right?) -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon --Axalon EXCUSE ME!! That statement really puts me off! 4.61 is what is in Mandrake's updates for 6.0!!?? It was recommended in this forum as an acceptable fix for the problems associated with 4.5. Now you say this new (4.7) version is just as bad as the fix we had for the Mandrake 6.0 distribution (which I still am using). Well, what's that mean, EXACTLY!!?? If 4.7 is just as bad as 4.61 then upgrading to it shouldn't be any more of a problem than continuing to use 4.61, or should it??!! Sheeesh Alan Your excused, I do not thing you've been following the netscape saga closely enough. They link the glibc version against 2.0, we supply 2.0.1 and 2.1.1, both of wich are incompatable with the binarys. The version of netscape we currently ship is the libc5 with a really fancy loader. I've installed both the glibc and libc5 versions here, libc5 fails to even load because it doeesn't use the loader (exactly what one would expect), the glibc (still linked against old glibc) acts just like the orignal 4.61 that was released, java works when it wants, you have to make sure to click "ok" and not just hit enter on a passowrd dialog, inserting a link in composer still causes an instant segfault. So yes, my expectations of netscape held true, and i stand by my original analysis of netscape. Axalonthat's probably so. And I'm confused. Is the glibc version I ordered on CD not going to work (I mean work like the 4.61 version from updates that I'm using now)? From what you said above, the answer is no. Ok, so is any version not massaged and customized by Mandrake going to work (especially one with 128 bit encryption) like the update's 4.61? I believe that the answer is no also (from your comments above). Is there any way I can get a working copy usable with Mandrake 6.0/6.1 that includes 128 bit encryption (my on-line bank requires it). Thanks, and I'm sorry for the overly-emphatic message (I wrote it in during the wrong moment in time). (-: Alan I seem to recall seeing a utility that will patch your existing Netscape to support 128bit encryption. I don't recall the name (Fortify comes to mind, but I think that's an SSL util). Searching Google or Freshmeat for "netscape encryption" may turn something up, though. -- Steve Philp "The Internet is like crack Network Administratorfor smart people..." Advance Packaging Corporation --Arsenio Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgradeatyour own risk)
Steve Philp wrote: Alan Shoemaker wrote: Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Alan Shoemaker wrote: Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Eosnet Team wrote: http://www.netscape.com/download/selectlanguage_1_702_411.html Here is a link to the latest version of netscape. (maybe more stable?) I wouldn't recommend it, it's just as broken as the 4.61. (everybody remebers the segfault on link insertion right?) -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon --Axalon EXCUSE ME!! That statement really puts me off! 4.61 is what is in Mandrake's updates for 6.0!!?? It was recommended in this forum as an acceptable fix for the problems associated with 4.5. Now you say this new (4.7) version is just as bad as the fix we had for the Mandrake 6.0 distribution (which I still am using). Well, what's that mean, EXACTLY!!?? If 4.7 is just as bad as 4.61 then upgrading to it shouldn't be any more of a problem than continuing to use 4.61, or should it??!! Sheeesh Alan Your excused, I do not thing you've been following the netscape saga closely enough. They link the glibc version against 2.0, we supply 2.0.1 and 2.1.1, both of wich are incompatable with the binarys. The version of netscape we currently ship is the libc5 with a really fancy loader. I've installed both the glibc and libc5 versions here, libc5 fails to even load because it doeesn't use the loader (exactly what one would expect), the glibc (still linked against old glibc) acts just like the orignal 4.61 that was released, java works when it wants, you have to make sure to click "ok" and not just hit enter on a passowrd dialog, inserting a link in composer still causes an instant segfault. So yes, my expectations of netscape held true, and i stand by my original analysis of netscape. Axalonthat's probably so. And I'm confused. Is the glibc version I ordered on CD not going to work (I mean work like the 4.61 version from updates that I'm using now)? From what you said above, the answer is no. Ok, so is any version not massaged and customized by Mandrake going to work (especially one with 128 bit encryption) like the update's 4.61? I believe that the answer is no also (from your comments above). Is there any way I can get a working copy usable with Mandrake 6.0/6.1 that includes 128 bit encryption (my on-line bank requires it). Thanks, and I'm sorry for the overly-emphatic message (I wrote it in during the wrong moment in time). (-: Alan I seem to recall seeing a utility that will patch your existing Netscape to support 128bit encryption. I don't recall the name (Fortify comes to mind, but I think that's an SSL util). Searching Google or Freshmeat for "netscape encryption" may turn something up, though. -- Steve Philp Steveyep, '"netscape encryption" fortify' on google found it. I'm downloading now. Thanks. Alan
