RE: [newbie] KDE2 in 7.2 download
Hi I have attempted to install the 7.2 download 2 CD version last weekend and had similar problems. Additional comments: (1) Ditch the Drake partitioner and use the non-free Partition Magic 5.X program instead. The Drake partitioner will not work properly with Quantum Fireball drives containing a FAT16/FAT32 partitions and obviously from the number of complaints on Mandrake lists, there are many other types of drives it will not work on as well. (2) KDE 2.0 is prone to crashes and too resource intensive. (Yes, I installed the final version.) (3) No matter what type of install is attempted, 7.2 will install non-system packages which were de-selected and not install other packages which were selected. (4) KDE2/this-kernel-version causes constant disk activity. (64MB RAM, swap 128MB). CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE is totally ineffective to shut down a process gracefully! (5) USERDRAKE is clearly broken as are many others. (6) Many configuration scripts are broken. (7) The installation process needs very much work. There are a number of interesting ideas in 7.2 but they are just that: ideas which have been incompletely implemented. As an avid Mandrake 7.1 user I find this to be sad. Mandrake seems to have lost it's way: The Mandrake-Macmillan monopoly deal, Macmillan's non-support, Macmillan's different releases of 7.2 (Wallmart and so on). It is clear that the present Mandrake Management aim Mandrake at every type of user, anyone who can read their adverts and prod a keyboard, but who is the Mandrake distribution really suitable for? Mandrake Technical side clearly have their ideas which seem to conflict with the Mandrake Moneymen ideas. In short: In my opinion, 7.2 is not ready for novice users/Windows users and possibly too much trouble for even an expert to bother with. You can do a lot better Mandrake, but do you really want to? -- Original Message -- Hi all, I am still unable to find the desktop that shows up on the linux-Mandrake tutorial for KDE. I have only a tool bar at the bottom of the page and no icons at all. The K button is a penguin with Linux written in. Is all this normal with the downloaded 7.2 version? I realy like the look of the desk top in the tutorial. Not sure if I have a complete download or if my CDrom is giving up, cause I had several packages (16 in an attempt at expert/workstation install) that failed to install. Can't tell if that is the CD or the CDrom. Any suggestions are welcome. TIA Dennis M.
Re: [newbie] KDE2 in 7.2 download
Hello, I just downloaded the more recent update of KDE2 at www.kde.org/download for Mandrake7.2. Some of the features has been upgrade such as when you point over an icon on the task bar. the icon enlarged. It's new to me.. but I like it. Also Kdevelop has been added which was not on before. Rob - Original Message - From: "ron peake" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 12:33 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] KDE2 in 7.2 download Hi I have attempted to install the 7.2 download 2 CD version last weekend and had similar problems. Additional comments: (1) Ditch the Drake partitioner and use the non-free Partition Magic 5.X program instead. The Drake partitioner will not work properly with Quantum Fireball drives containing a FAT16/FAT32 partitions and obviously from the number of complaints on Mandrake lists, there are many other types of drives it will not work on as well. (2) KDE 2.0 is prone to crashes and too resource intensive. (Yes, I installed the final version.) (3) No matter what type of install is attempted, 7.2 will install non-system packages which were de-selected and not install other packages which were selected. (4) KDE2/this-kernel-version causes constant disk activity. (64MB RAM, swap 128MB). CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE is totally ineffective to shut down a process gracefully! (5) USERDRAKE is clearly broken as are many others. (6) Many configuration scripts are broken. (7) The installation process needs very much work. There are a number of interesting ideas in 7.2 but they are just that: ideas which have been incompletely implemented. As an avid Mandrake 7.1 user I find this to be sad. Mandrake seems to have lost it's way: The Mandrake-Macmillan monopoly deal, Macmillan's non-support, Macmillan's different releases of 7.2 (Wallmart and so on). It is clear that the present Mandrake Management aim Mandrake at every type of user, anyone who can read their adverts and prod a keyboard, but who is the Mandrake distribution really suitable for? Mandrake Technical side clearly have their ideas which seem to conflict with the Mandrake Moneymen ideas. In short: In my opinion, 7.2 is not ready for novice users/Windows users and possibly too much trouble for even an expert to bother with. You can do a lot better Mandrake, but do you really want to? -- Original Message -- Hi all, I am still unable to find the desktop that shows up on the linux-Mandrake tutorial for KDE. I have only a tool bar at the bottom of the page and no icons at all. The K button is a penguin with Linux written in. Is all this normal with the downloaded 7.2 version? I realy like the look of the desk top in the tutorial. Not sure if I have a complete download or if my CDrom is giving up, cause I had several packages (16 in an attempt at expert/workstation install) that failed to install. Can't tell if that is the CD or the CDrom. Any suggestions are welcome. TIA Dennis M.
Re: [newbie] KDE2 in 7.2 download
What a load of BS. i downloaded the two iso cds from the mandrake site and instlaled them on my system and it works fine. no hiccups and no problems. everything i wanted installed and it runs better faster, and picks up more of my hardware then 7.1 ever did. - Original Message - From: "ron peake" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 6:33 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] KDE2 in 7.2 download Hi I have attempted to install the 7.2 download 2 CD version last weekend and had similar problems. Additional comments: (1) Ditch the Drake partitioner and use the non-free Partition Magic 5.X program instead. The Drake partitioner will not work properly with Quantum Fireball drives containing a FAT16/FAT32 partitions and obviously from the number of complaints on Mandrake lists, there are many other types of drives it will not work on as well. (2) KDE 2.0 is prone to crashes and too resource intensive. (Yes, I installed the final version.) (3) No matter what type of install is attempted, 7.2 will install non-system packages which were de-selected and not install other packages which were selected. (4) KDE2/this-kernel-version causes constant disk activity. (64MB RAM, swap 128MB). CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE is totally ineffective to shut down a process gracefully! (5) USERDRAKE is clearly broken as are many others. (6) Many configuration scripts are broken. (7) The installation process needs very much work. There are a number of interesting ideas in 7.2 but they are just that: ideas which have been incompletely implemented. As an avid Mandrake 7.1 user I find this to be sad. Mandrake seems to have lost it's way: The Mandrake-Macmillan monopoly deal, Macmillan's non-support, Macmillan's different releases of 7.2 (Wallmart and so on). It is clear that the present Mandrake Management aim Mandrake at every type of user, anyone who can read their adverts and prod a keyboard, but who is the Mandrake distribution really suitable for? Mandrake Technical side clearly have their ideas which seem to conflict with the Mandrake Moneymen ideas. In short: In my opinion, 7.2 is not ready for novice users/Windows users and possibly too much trouble for even an expert to bother with. You can do a lot better Mandrake, but do you really want to? -- Original Message -- Hi all, I am still unable to find the desktop that shows up on the linux-Mandrake tutorial for KDE. I have only a tool bar at the bottom of the page and no icons at all. The K button is a penguin with Linux written in. Is all this normal with the downloaded 7.2 version? I realy like the look of the desk top in the tutorial. Not sure if I have a complete download or if my CDrom is giving up, cause I had several packages (16 in an attempt at expert/workstation install) that failed to install. Can't tell if that is the CD or the CDrom. Any suggestions are welcome. TIA Dennis M.
Re: [newbie] KDE2 in 7.2 download
Lucky you. -- Original Message -- What a load of BS. i downloaded the two iso cds from the mandrake site and instlaled them on my system and it works fine. no hiccups and no problems. everything i wanted installed and it runs better faster, and picks up more of my hardware then 7.1 ever did. - Original Message - From: "ron peake" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 6:33 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] KDE2 in 7.2 download Hi I have attempted to install the 7.2 download 2 CD version last weekend and had similar problems. Additional comments: (1) Ditch the Drake partitioner and use the non-free Partition Magic 5.X program instead. The Drake partitioner will not work properly with Quantum Fireball drives containing a FAT16/FAT32 partitions and obviously from the number of complaints on Mandrake lists, there are many other types of drives it will not work on as well. (2) KDE 2.0 is prone to crashes and too resource intensive. (Yes, I installed the final version.) (3) No matter what type of install is attempted, 7.2 will install non-system packages which were de-selected and not install other packages which were selected. (4) KDE2/this-kernel-version causes constant disk activity. (64MB RAM, swap 128MB). CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE is totally ineffective to shut down a process gracefully! (5) USERDRAKE is clearly broken as are many others. (6) Many configuration scripts are broken. (7) The installation process needs very much work. There are a number of interesting ideas in 7.2 but they are just that: ideas which have been incompletely implemented. As an avid Mandrake 7.1 user I find this to be sad. Mandrake seems to have lost it's way: The Mandrake-Macmillan monopoly deal, Macmillan's non-support, Macmillan's different releases of 7.2 (Wallmart and so on). It is clear that the present Mandrake Management aim Mandrake at every type of user, anyone who can read their adverts and prod a keyboard, but who is the Mandrake distribution really suitable for? Mandrake Technical side clearly have their ideas which seem to conflict with the Mandrake Moneymen ideas. In short: In my opinion, 7.2 is not ready for novice users/Windows users and possibly too much trouble for even an expert to bother with. You can do a lot better Mandrake, but do you really want to? -- Original Message -- Hi all, I am still unable to find the desktop that shows up on the linux-Mandrake tutorial for KDE. I have only a tool bar at the bottom of the page and no icons at all. The K button is a penguin with Linux written in. Is all this normal with the downloaded 7.2 version? I realy like the look of the desk top in the tutorial. Not sure if I have a complete download or if my CDrom is giving up, cause I had several packages (16 in an attempt at expert/workstation install) that failed to install. Can't tell if that is the CD or the CDrom. Any suggestions are welcome. TIA Dennis M.
[newbie] KDE2 in 7.2 download
Hi all, I am still unable to find the desktop that shows up on the linux-Mandrake tutorial for KDE. I have only a tool bar at the bottom of the page and no icons at all. The K button is a penguin with Linux written in. Is all this normal with the downloaded 7.2 version? I realy like the look of the desk top in the tutorial. Not sure if I have a complete download or if my CDrom is giving up, cause I had several packages (16 in an attempt at expert/workstation install) that failed to install. Can't tell if that is the CD or the CDrom. Any suggestions are welcome. TIA Dennis M.
Re: [newbie] KDE2 in 7.2 download
- Original Message - From: "Dennis Myers" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 9:24 PM Subject: [newbie] KDE2 in 7.2 download Hi all, I am still unable to find the desktop that shows up on the linux-Mandrake tutorial for KDE. I have only a tool bar at the bottom of the page and no icons at all. The K button is a penguin with Linux written in. Is all this normal with the downloaded 7.2 version? I realy like the look of the desk top in the tutorial. Not sure if I have a complete download or if my CDrom is giving up, cause I had several packages (16 in an attempt at expert/workstation install) that failed to install. Can't tell if that is the CD or the CDrom. Any suggestions are welcome. TIA Dennis M. Dennis If you know what the 16 programs are you can use RPMDrake to manually install them. This may "fix" your desktop. Charles
