RE: [newbie] Linux for 486

2001-02-24 Thread Paul Rodríguez

The machine will definately work as a terminal.  Check out
http://www.ltsp.org they've done some really good work in that area.  Thank
you guys!

-Paul R

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Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 6:14 PM
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Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux for 486


I plane to put this machine like a workstation or like a terminal, but I not
sure if this is possible.

I think that the Java Virtual Machine can run in this Operating System.

** off topic **
Anybody knows how can I work with sockets with Turbo C++ for DOS?

=?iso-8859-1?Q?Paul_Rodr=EDguez?= escribi:

 There are some distribution specially dsigned for older systems.  These
 include:

 Tiny Linux http://tiny.seul.org/
 Hal 91 http://jspiro.tripod.com/linux/hal91.htm
 Peanut Linux http://www.ibiblio.org/peanut/
 MuLinux http://sunsite.dk/mulinux/
 ZipHam http://perso.libertysurf.fr/f5nlg
 DLX http://www.wu-wien.ac.at/usr/h93/h9301726/dlx.html
 Grey Cat Linux http://www.intelcities.com/Coder_Canyon/theking/

 Kde and Gnome are going to require (arguably) at least 32mb.  Someone
please
 correct me on this, I'm not sure how much is required or recommended.
With
 4 or 8 megs, you are much better off running in text only mode or running
a
 lighter window manager such as:

 Window Maker http://www.windowmaker.org/
 or Black Box http://blackbox.alug.org/

 Check out this page on Window Managers for X http://www.plig.org/xwinman/
to
 get an idea of the options.

 Good luck.

 -Paul R

 PS WHat are you planning to use this system for?
 I have an old 386sx I'm going to be trying to use as a firewall/router
soon.
 Should be fun (and I'm probably going to need some help from the list when
I
 get started).

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 Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 12:49 PM
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 Subject: RE: [newbie] Linux for 486

 h ... you will find distributions that will run on 4MB ... Albeit a
 little slow  Running X (Gnome,KDE and so on) is highly unlikely .

 Ingo

 -Original Message-
 From:   dison Andrs [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent:   February 21, 2001 10:58 AM
 To: Linux Novatos
 Subject:[newbie] Linux for 486

 Hello everybody.

 I'm looking for a Linux versin for a 486 PC with 4 megas in RAM and a
 procesor of 50 MHz.

 I want to know if I can put in this machine a StartX service?  what
 station of work would you recommend me? KDE? GNOME?

 Thanks for all.

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 Departamento de Informtica
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re: [newbie] Linux for 486

2001-02-21 Thread Paul Rodríguez

I'm not sure if I sent this out earlier, just in case, here yo are again.

There are some distribution specially dsigned for older systems.  These
include:

Tiny Linux http://tiny.seul.org/
Hal 91 http://jspiro.tripod.com/linux/hal91.htm
Peanut Linux http://www.ibiblio.org/peanut/
MuLinux http://sunsite.dk/mulinux/
ZipHam http://perso.libertysurf.fr/f5nlg
DLX http://www.wu-wien.ac.at/usr/h93/h9301726/dlx.html
Grey Cat Linux http://www.intelcities.com/Coder_Canyon/theking/

For a fuller list check out:
http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Linux/D
istributions/Tiny_Linux/

Kde and Gnome are going to require (arguably) at least 16mb.  Someone please
correct me on this, I'm not sure how much is required or recommended.  With
4 or 8 megs, you are much better off running in text only mode or running a
lighter window manager such as:

Window Maker http://www.windowmaker.org/
or Black Box http://blackbox.alug.org/

Check out this page on Window Managers for X http://www.plig.org/xwinman/ to
get an idea of the options.

Good luck.

-Paul R

PS WHat are you planning to use this system for?
I have an old 386sx I'm going to be trying to use as a firewall/router soon.
Should be fun (and I'm probably going to need some help from the list when I
get started).

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ingo Bauer
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 12:49 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [newbie] Linux for 486


h ... you will find distributions that will run on 4MB ... Albeit a
little slow  Running X (Gnome,KDE and so on) is highly unlikely .

Ingo

-Original Message-
From:   dison Andrs [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   February 21, 2001 10:58 AM
To: Linux Novatos
Subject:[newbie] Linux for 486

Hello everybody.

I'm looking for a Linux versin for a 486 PC with 4 megas in RAM and a
procesor of 50 MHz.

I want to know if I can put in this machine a StartX service?  what
station of work would you recommend me? KDE? GNOME?

Thanks for all.

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Ingeniero de Sistemas
Departamento de Informtica
Universidad de San Buenaventura
Medelln - Colombia
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[newbie] Linux for 486

2001-02-20 Thread Édison Andrés

Hello everybody.

I'm looking for a Linux versin for a 486 PC with 4 megas in RAM and a
procesor of 50 MHz.

I want to know if I can put in this machine a StartX service?  what
station of work would you recommend me? KDE? GNOME?

Thanks for all.

--
dison Andrs Rivera Norea
Ingeniero de Sistemas
Departamento de Informtica
Universidad de San Buenaventura
Medelln - Colombia
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: [newbie] Linux for 486

2001-02-20 Thread Ingo Bauer

h ... you will find distributions that will run on 4MB ... Albeit a little slow 
 Running X (Gnome,KDE and so on) is highly unlikely . 

Ingo

-Original Message-
From:   dison Andrs [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   February 21, 2001 10:58 AM
To: Linux Novatos
Subject:[newbie] Linux for 486

Hello everybody.

I'm looking for a Linux versin for a 486 PC with 4 megas in RAM and a
procesor of 50 MHz.

I want to know if I can put in this machine a StartX service?  what
station of work would you recommend me? KDE? GNOME?

Thanks for all.

--
dison Andrs Rivera Norea
Ingeniero de Sistemas
Departamento de Informtica
Universidad de San Buenaventura
Medelln - Colombia
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.usb-med.edu.co/~neos







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Re: [newbie] Linux for 486

2001-02-20 Thread Édison Andrés

if would had 8MB ???

Ingo Bauer escribi:

 h ... you will find distributions that will run on 4MB ... Albeit a little slow 
 Running X (Gnome,KDE and so on) is highly unlikely .

 Ingo

 -Original Message-
 From:   dison Andrs [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent:   February 21, 2001 10:58 AM
 To: Linux Novatos
 Subject:[newbie] Linux for 486

 Hello everybody.

 I'm looking for a Linux versin for a 486 PC with 4 megas in RAM and a
 procesor of 50 MHz.

 I want to know if I can put in this machine a StartX service?  what
 station of work would you recommend me? KDE? GNOME?

 Thanks for all.

 --
 dison Andrs Rivera Norea
 Ingeniero de Sistemas
 Departamento de Informtica
 Universidad de San Buenaventura
 Medelln - Colombia
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.usb-med.edu.co/~neos

   

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RE: [newbie] Linux for 486

2001-02-20 Thread Paul Rodríguez

There are some distribution specially dsigned for older systems.  These
include:

Tiny Linux http://tiny.seul.org/
Hal 91 http://jspiro.tripod.com/linux/hal91.htm
Peanut Linux http://www.ibiblio.org/peanut/
MuLinux http://sunsite.dk/mulinux/
ZipHam http://perso.libertysurf.fr/f5nlg
DLX http://www.wu-wien.ac.at/usr/h93/h9301726/dlx.html
Grey Cat Linux http://www.intelcities.com/Coder_Canyon/theking/

Kde and Gnome are going to require (arguably) at least 32mb.  Someone please
correct me on this, I'm not sure how much is required or recommended.  With
4 or 8 megs, you are much better off running in text only mode or running a
lighter window manager such as:

Window Maker http://www.windowmaker.org/
or Black Box http://blackbox.alug.org/

Check out this page on Window Managers for X http://www.plig.org/xwinman/ to
get an idea of the options.

Good luck.

-Paul R

PS WHat are you planning to use this system for?
I have an old 386sx I'm going to be trying to use as a firewall/router soon.
Should be fun (and I'm probably going to need some help from the list when I
get started).

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ingo Bauer
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 12:49 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [newbie] Linux for 486


h ... you will find distributions that will run on 4MB ... Albeit a
little slow  Running X (Gnome,KDE and so on) is highly unlikely .

Ingo

-Original Message-
From:   dison Andrs [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   February 21, 2001 10:58 AM
To: Linux Novatos
Subject:[newbie] Linux for 486

Hello everybody.

I'm looking for a Linux versin for a 486 PC with 4 megas in RAM and a
procesor of 50 MHz.

I want to know if I can put in this machine a StartX service?  what
station of work would you recommend me? KDE? GNOME?

Thanks for all.

--
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Ingeniero de Sistemas
Departamento de Informtica
Universidad de San Buenaventura
Medelln - Colombia
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.usb-med.edu.co/~neos








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Re: [newbie] Linux for 486

2001-02-20 Thread Édison Andrés

I plane to put this machine like a workstation or like a terminal, but I not
sure if this is possible.

I think that the Java Virtual Machine can run in this Operating System.

** off topic **
Anybody knows how can I work with sockets with Turbo C++ for DOS?

=?iso-8859-1?Q?Paul_Rodr=EDguez?= escribi:

 There are some distribution specially dsigned for older systems.  These
 include:

 Tiny Linux http://tiny.seul.org/
 Hal 91 http://jspiro.tripod.com/linux/hal91.htm
 Peanut Linux http://www.ibiblio.org/peanut/
 MuLinux http://sunsite.dk/mulinux/
 ZipHam http://perso.libertysurf.fr/f5nlg
 DLX http://www.wu-wien.ac.at/usr/h93/h9301726/dlx.html
 Grey Cat Linux http://www.intelcities.com/Coder_Canyon/theking/

 Kde and Gnome are going to require (arguably) at least 32mb.  Someone please
 correct me on this, I'm not sure how much is required or recommended.  With
 4 or 8 megs, you are much better off running in text only mode or running a
 lighter window manager such as:

 Window Maker http://www.windowmaker.org/
 or Black Box http://blackbox.alug.org/

 Check out this page on Window Managers for X http://www.plig.org/xwinman/ to
 get an idea of the options.

 Good luck.

 -Paul R

 PS WHat are you planning to use this system for?
 I have an old 386sx I'm going to be trying to use as a firewall/router soon.
 Should be fun (and I'm probably going to need some help from the list when I
 get started).

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ingo Bauer
 Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 12:49 PM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [newbie] Linux for 486

 h ... you will find distributions that will run on 4MB ... Albeit a
 little slow  Running X (Gnome,KDE and so on) is highly unlikely .

 Ingo

 -Original Message-
 From:   dison Andrs [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent:   February 21, 2001 10:58 AM
 To: Linux Novatos
 Subject:[newbie] Linux for 486

 Hello everybody.

 I'm looking for a Linux versin for a 486 PC with 4 megas in RAM and a
 procesor of 50 MHz.

 I want to know if I can put in this machine a StartX service?  what
 station of work would you recommend me? KDE? GNOME?

 Thanks for all.

 --
 dison Andrs Rivera Norea
 Ingeniero de Sistemas
 Departamento de Informtica
 Universidad de San Buenaventura
 Medelln - Colombia
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.usb-med.edu.co/~neos

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Re: [newbie] Linux for 486

2001-02-20 Thread eryl

I've run Caldera (can't remember the version) on a 486/25 with a 640Meg
harddrive and 16 meg of ram.  KDE worked o.k. for me, and the system was
faster than 3.1 and way faster than W95 (which I once tried on that
machine).  

With 4meg of ram, I just don't think you'll be able to run any
windowmanager except maybe blackbox or windowmaker.  KDE and Gnome are
out of the question.  



dison Andrs wrote:
 
 Hello everybody.
 
 I'm looking for a Linux versin for a 486 PC with 4 megas in RAM and a
 procesor of 50 MHz.
 
 I want to know if I can put in this machine a StartX service?  what
 station of work would you recommend me? KDE? GNOME?
 
 Thanks for all.
 
 --




Re: [newbie] Linux for 486

2001-02-20 Thread Evan Flynn

don't even bother running X, you would need more memory (24meg maybe)
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux for 486


if would had 8MB ???

Ingo Bauer escribi:

 h ... you will find distributions that will run on 4MB ... Albeit a
little slow  Running X (Gnome,KDE and so on) is highly unlikely .

 Ingo

 -Original Message-
 From:   dison Andrs [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent:   February 21, 2001 10:58 AM
 To: Linux Novatos
 Subject:    [newbie] Linux for 486

 Hello everybody.

 I'm looking for a Linux versin for a 486 PC with 4 megas in RAM and a
 procesor of 50 MHz.

 I want to know if I can put in this machine a StartX service?  what
 station of work would you recommend me? KDE? GNOME?

 Thanks for all.

 --
 dison Andrs Rivera Norea
 Ingeniero de Sistemas
 Departamento de Informtica
 Universidad de San Buenaventura
 Medelln - Colombia
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.usb-med.edu.co/~neos

   

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Re: [newbie] Linux for 486

2001-02-20 Thread s

Geez, I doubt you could run a gui on that.  You should stick with a pure 
console.
-s

On Wednesday 21 February 2001 08:58 am, you wrote:
 Hello everybody.

 I'm looking for a Linux versin for a 486 PC with 4 megas in RAM and a
 procesor of 50 MHz.

 I want to know if I can put in this machine a StartX service?  what
 station of work would you recommend me? KDE? GNOME?

 Thanks for all.

 --
 dison Andrs Rivera Norea
 Ingeniero de Sistemas
 Departamento de Informtica
 Universidad de San Buenaventura
 Medelln - Colombia
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.usb-med.edu.co/~neos




Re: [newbie] Linux for 486

2001-02-20 Thread H.J.Bathoorn

On Wednesday 21 February 2001 15:58, you wrote:
 Hello everybody.

 I'm looking for a Linux versin for a 486 PC with 4 megas in RAM
 and a procesor of 50 MHz.

 I want to know if I can put in this machine a StartX service? 
 what station of work would you recommend me? KDE? GNOME?

 Thanks for all.

 --
 dison Andrs Rivera Norea
 Ingeniero de Sistemas
 Departamento de Informtica
 Universidad de San Buenaventura
 Medelln - Colombia
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.usb-med.edu.co/~neos

I've got 'mulinux 'running on my 486 with Xwindows added . It's 
pretty spartan but does the job very well. 16 MB of ram is the 
luxury version though :o)
There are quite a few mindisstribs. running around, take your time 
to check them out.
www.linuxlinks.com goes a long way.
 good hunting, 


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RE: [newbie] Linux for 486

2001-02-20 Thread Franki

I had x running on a PPro200 with 8 mb of ram (it was RH6.2) and it worked,
but only just and it was SOOO slow...

go console, or get more ram,, I think you will not find the results of X all
that usable until you get 32mb



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Sent: Wednesday, 21 February 2001 7:15 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux for 486


Geez, I doubt you could run a gui on that.  You should stick with a pure
console.
-s

On Wednesday 21 February 2001 08:58 am, you wrote:
 Hello everybody.

 I'm looking for a Linux versin for a 486 PC with 4 megas in RAM and a
 procesor of 50 MHz.

 I want to know if I can put in this machine a StartX service?  what
 station of work would you recommend me? KDE? GNOME?

 Thanks for all.

 --
 dison Andrs Rivera Norea
 Ingeniero de Sistemas
 Departamento de Informtica
 Universidad de San Buenaventura
 Medelln - Colombia
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.usb-med.edu.co/~neos