[newbie] Mail Client for the CLI

2003-02-08 Thread Adolfo Bello
Today I couldn't start X after upgrading the kernel and the only way
that I had to get to this list was booting XP (Outlook frozen up 4 times
in less than 1.5 hours, so I needed to reboot 4 times to get working
back). Solution: I reinstalled Mandrake (and I am recompiling the kernel
again).

However, just in case I can not get X started, is there any nice MUA for
the CLI? 

TIA
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Re: [newbie] Mail Client for the CLI

2003-02-08 Thread et
mutt, elm, pine, (what happens if you type mail without the quotes?)

On Saturday 08 February 2003 12:08 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote:
 Today I couldn't start X after upgrading the kernel and the only way
 that I had to get to this list was booting XP (Outlook frozen up 4 times
 in less than 1.5 hours, so I needed to reboot 4 times to get working
 back). Solution: I reinstalled Mandrake (and I am recompiling the kernel
 again).

 However, just in case I can not get X started, is there any nice MUA for
 the CLI?

 TIA



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Re: [newbie] Mail Client for the CLI

2003-02-08 Thread CyberCFO
On Saturday 08 February 2003 12:08 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote:
 Today I couldn't start X after upgrading the kernel and the only way
 that I had to get to this list was booting XP (Outlook frozen up 4 times
 in less than 1.5 hours, so I needed to reboot 4 times to get working
 back). Solution: I reinstalled Mandrake (and I am recompiling the kernel
 again).

 However, just in case I can not get X started, is there any nice MUA for
 the CLI?

 TIA
Why are you recompiling the kernel to get X started?
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Re: [newbie] Mail Client for the CLI

2003-02-08 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 13:15, et wrote:
 mutt, elm, pine, (what happens if you type mail without the quotes?)

No mail for adolfobello

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Re: [newbie] Mail Client for the CLI

2003-02-08 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 13:16, CyberCFO wrote:

 Why are you recompiling the kernel to get X started?

Last night I tried to upgrade to new kernel 2.4.19-24, and around 1:30
am (EST), when everything was finished and I rebooted, I couldn't get X
started. The system went into runlevel 5 three times but X didn't start.
I tried then to rollback to the previous version, but I should have done
something wrong because X didn't start and I got a 2.4.19-24 welcome
message instead of the 2.4.19-16 I expected.

I waited until today for any help, but Outlook was driving me crazy and
I decided to reinstall Mandrake.

I am upgrading again and turning ACPI support on which I need for my
laptop and just to see if I can get any sound out of this machine. And
of course, because I need to find out why X didn't start.

Praying that I don't have to reinstall again :-)
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Re: [newbie] Mail Client for the CLI

2003-02-08 Thread Greg Meyer
On Saturday 08 February 2003 12:40 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote:
 On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 13:16, CyberCFO wrote:
  Why are you recompiling the kernel to get X started?

 Last night I tried to upgrade to new kernel 2.4.19-24, and around 1:30
 am (EST), when everything was finished and I rebooted, I couldn't get X
 started. The system went into runlevel 5 three times but X didn't start.
 I tried then to rollback to the previous version, but I should have done
 something wrong because X didn't start and I got a 2.4.19-24 welcome
 message instead of the 2.4.19-16 I expected.

 I waited until today for any help, but Outlook was driving me crazy and
 I decided to reinstall Mandrake.

 I am upgrading again and turning ACPI support on which I need for my
 laptop and just to see if I can get any sound out of this machine. And
 of course, because I need to find out why X didn't start.

 Praying that I don't have to reinstall again :-)


A couple of shots in the dark, but maybe they will help.

I have had X fail to start when the partition that had /tmp on it was full.  
This prevented xfs (font server) from starting;

nVidia graphics?

When you boot to runlevel 3 and try and start XFree with startx, what error 
messages do you get?
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Re: [newbie] Mail Client for the CLI

2003-02-08 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 14:14, Greg Meyer wrote:

 I have had X fail to start when the partition that had /tmp on it was full.  
 This prevented xfs (font server) from starting;
XFS started Ok.

 
 nVidia graphics?
Yup

 
 When you boot to runlevel 3 and try and start XFree with startx, what error 
 messages do you get?
I didn't write it down but I am sure was nothing related to /tmp being
full or so I guess. It said something like X being unable to find a
terminal.

In about half an hour I'll  be reinstalling the new kernel again. I hope
nothing goes wrong, but if it does i will take detailed notes of error
messages.

Thanks a lot for your concern.
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Re: [newbie] Mail Client for the CLI

2003-02-08 Thread Greg Meyer
On Saturday 08 February 2003 01:35 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote:
 On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 14:14, Greg Meyer wrote:
  I have had X fail to start when the partition that had /tmp on it was
  full. This prevented xfs (font server) from starting;

 XFS started Ok.

  nVidia graphics?

 Yup
This may seem rather obvious, but which driver are you using nv(free) or 
nvidia(proprietary)?  If nvidia, did you recompile the kernel module after 
installing the new kernel?

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Re: [newbie] Mail Client for the CLI

2003-02-08 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 14:44, Greg Meyer wrote:
 This may seem rather obvious, but which driver are you using nv(free) or 
 nvidia(proprietary)?  If nvidia, did you recompile the kernel module after 
 installing the new kernel?
nv(free). Do I need to recompile this one?
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Re: [newbie] Mail Client for the CLI

2003-02-08 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 15:03, Mark wrote:

 when you compiled this kernel did you make a boot disk for it and test it 
 before installing the kernel? this would greatly alleviate all the 
 troublesome having to reload not to mention having X breaking on you. In 
 the seven years I've been using Linux I've never attempted to install a 
 kernel without first testing it with a boot disk. save the the first time. 
 ;) 
No, I didn't.

Timing is more than right for this advise. In a few minutes I will be
installing the new kernel.

Thanks a lot.
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Re: [newbie] Mail Client for the CLI

2003-02-08 Thread Greg Meyer
On Saturday 08 February 2003 01:58 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote:
 On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 14:44, Greg Meyer wrote:
  This may seem rather obvious, but which driver are you using nv(free) or
  nvidia(proprietary)?  If nvidia, did you recompile the kernel module
  after installing the new kernel?

 nv(free). Do I need to recompile this one?

Not if you included it in your kernel config
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Re: [newbie] Mail Client for the CLI

2003-02-08 Thread Chuck Burns
On Saturday 08 February 2003 11:08 am, Adolfo Bello wrote:
 Today I couldn't start X after upgrading the kernel and the only way
 that I had to get to this list was booting XP (Outlook frozen up 4 times
 in less than 1.5 hours, so I needed to reboot 4 times to get working
 back). Solution: I reinstalled Mandrake (and I am recompiling the kernel
 again).

 However, just in case I can not get X started, is there any nice MUA for
 the CLI?

 TIA
Pine, Mutt.. mutt is my fav cli mail client

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Re: [newbie] Mail Client for the CLI

2003-02-08 Thread Mark
On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, Adolfo Bello wrote:

 On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 13:16, CyberCFO wrote:
 
  Why are you recompiling the kernel to get X started?
 
 Last night I tried to upgrade to new kernel 2.4.19-24, and around 1:30
 am (EST), when everything was finished and I rebooted, I couldn't get X
 started. The system went into runlevel 5 three times but X didn't start.
 I tried then to rollback to the previous version, but I should have done
 something wrong because X didn't start and I got a 2.4.19-24 welcome
 message instead of the 2.4.19-16 I expected.
 
 I waited until today for any help, but Outlook was driving me crazy and
 I decided to reinstall Mandrake.
 
 I am upgrading again and turning ACPI support on which I need for my
 laptop and just to see if I can get any sound out of this machine. And
 of course, because I need to find out why X didn't start.
 
 Praying that I don't have to reinstall again :-)

when you compiled this kernel did you make a boot disk for it and test it 
before installing the kernel? this would greatly alleviate all the 
troublesome having to reload not to mention having X breaking on you. In 
the seven years I've been using Linux I've never attempted to install a 
kernel without first testing it with a boot disk. save the the first time. 
;) 

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Re: [newbie] Mail Client for the CLI

2003-02-08 Thread Mark
On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, Greg Meyer wrote:

 On Saturday 08 February 2003 01:35 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote:
  On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 14:14, Greg Meyer wrote:
   I have had X fail to start when the partition that had /tmp on it was
   full. This prevented xfs (font server) from starting;
 
  XFS started Ok.
 
   nVidia graphics?
 
  Yup
 This may seem rather obvious, but which driver are you using nv(free) or 
 nvidia(proprietary)?  If nvidia, did you recompile the kernel module after 
 installing the new kernel?

you may also try compiling the drivers directly into the kernel as opposed 
to loading the module for the nvidia card. that sometimes help the 
situation. however it does make for a heavier kernel. 

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Re: [newbie] Mail Client for the CLI

2003-02-08 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 01:29:11PM -0400, Adolfo Bello wrote:
 On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 13:15, et wrote:
  mutt, elm, pine, (what happens if you type mail without the quotes?)

I routinely use mutt from the CLI even though I have X installed and working.
It works find, and even adapts if I resize my CLI window while mutt is running.

-- hendrik

 
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