Following the instructions on how to install KDE2 beta 5 (the final beta) on Mandrake 7.x, I installed the RPMs menu and mandrake_desk from Mandrake 7.2 beta 3 before doing anything else. I did not install KDE2 over my KDE 1.x at this stage. After a reboot I found that kdm (my default login manager at boot) only displayed kde and default as choices, and whatever I chose I got IceWM. I managed to get GNOME running manually by killing kdm with init 3 from a root console and then running startx. I tried gdm (from Helix GNOME) instead of kdm but this doesn't let me log into anything. By this stage I had not installed KDE2 but my system was already a mess. So my question is: how do I get things working as they were before, with a fully working login manager? -- _____________________________________________________________________ Sridhar Dhanapalan Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! _____________________________________________________________________