Hi James & folks,
Thamks for answering - but please don't fall into the trap of the
"fanatics". That title I see now could have been misunderstood from the
mindset common here.  But, it was simply to let the Business non-geeks know,
quietly, my summary ( and many others to date) without the E-Rage!  :-)
These are the people *I* support - SBO's ( Smaller Business Owners) who
can't afford high-end advice and worse, can't afford errors that cost them
ANY business today.)

 I have had numerous messages from people where they have all felt compelled
to write to me privately - because of the visciousness of just a few Flamers
on this Board, which is a shame.  In general, a nicer bunch of friendly
people you wouldn't find anywhere else.

I would dearly love to leave Big Bill!  We all would. But I still need to
put cake on the table. My system has to make money and it has to do it
efficiently - unlike many others in the Geek community, nobody is paying my
wages while I play with experimentals.
It is not a hobby. I don't have time for one! :-)

BUT, I still recall the horror of a "simple"  NT 4 upgrade taking my main
system out and leaving me in the middle of a large publishing job - to which
I received the typical M$ R&R response:  "Reformat and reinstall.......it's
tough, but it does that...."
Our Unix systems rarely, rarely went down in the good ol' days - and I
remember Concurrent Dos (System Manager OS) that nearly sent our commercial
Service Contract Division broke - clients realised they never called for
help and went "casual"!

If you wouldn't mind, I would appreciate some details for my ever-growing
database :-)
You see, it is now apparent that much (most?)of the troubles I see are
equipment related - as many as broken Softstuff.
In the business world, we don't have time for rebooting and changing
mindsets to do simple jobs. Much less the expensive training curves! We no
longer have the staff or the time.

Rebooting! THAT's why we all want to leave Big Bill!       :-)

1. Do you work *technically* with computers as a job/student?
( I notice you have XP which is an expensive upgrade for most domestic
users, and 2 systems)
2. What is your system?
Motherboard?
Graphics?
Sound is Audigy - but type?
3 Are your two machines networked and on line?  If so, with what method?
4. Most importantly - are you using graphic mode?
5. How do you write letters, spreadsheets, smple databases?
6. Equally importantly - did you do an automatic install in graphics mode?
(I've now learned from many responses that it is the "easy" install that
fails. Most successes are by command line affecianados)



Thanks again for your earlier response.

Cheers,

John

----- Original Message -----
From: James Thomas <>
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Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Living in the real world - Win4Lin4 NO INTEREST TO
GEEK FOLKS


> I generally avoid these kinds of discussions but I feel compelled to
> respond.
>


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