RE: [newbie] NVidia RPMs for LM 8.1

2002-02-09 Thread FLYNN, Steve

Yep.

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From:   Rick [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Subject:Re: [newbie] NVidia RPMs for LM 8.1

OK... I think I just learned something about RPM...

Do I understand Mr. Slooten correctly? By using RPM with a --rebuild
option on a SRC.RPM, you'll create a binary build of the SRC RPM??

Hmmm... At the console, rpm --help doesn't even list --rebuild (of
course,
it lists --rebuilddb but that's different). Yet, if I enter rpm
--rebuild
(with no package mentioned) I receive the message:

rpmb: no packages files given for rebuild

This seems to imply that the --rebuild option does, indeed exist. 

So... will this create a binary build RPM from a SRC RPM??

Thanks,
Rick

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 Ralph Slooten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 They offer src.rpm's om the nvidia site... why not make your own
rpm's?
 
 rpm --rebuild NVidia_blaah_blaah.src.rpm
 
 Greetings,
 Ralph
 
 
 Terry S. wrote:
  Does anyone know where I can get the NVidia_kernel RPM for an
NVidia
  GeForce2 MX/400?  The only one NVidia offers is an RPM for an
i686,
 but
  I can't use it since I don't have an 686 processor.  I have
searched
  RPMfind.net, and they didn't have one either.
  
  Thanks!
  
  Terry
 
 
 
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Re: [newbie] NVidia RPMs for LM 8.1

2002-02-09 Thread Paul

On Fri, 08 Feb 2002 23:46:13 +0100 Ralph wrote:

Maybe man rpm will tell you more? Well yes, an example is rpm 
--rebuild NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-1251.src.rpm ~ as in rpm --rebuild
filename

Can anyone tell me what the advantage would be of using the new Nvidia
drivers over the ones that are installed with mandrake (running 8.0 here)?
And is there an easy way to go back to the original if the new ones don't
work for me?

I sometimes experience strange effects in X where the display looks like
repetitions of 15 or so horizontal lines, making reading it impossible, and
all I can do is a reboot. Perhaps the new drivers would fix this problem.

I have the Nvidia Gforce 32mb. I suspect that this problem comes up only
after playing lots of MPEGs etc with mplayer but I am not sure.

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Re: [newbie] NVidia RPMs for LM 8.1

2002-02-09 Thread Miark

Paul,

 Can anyone tell me what the advantage would be of using the new Nvidia
 drivers over the ones that are installed with mandrake (running 8.0 here)?

nVidia's drivers support 3D. The stock Mandrake driver (nv) does not.

 And is there an easy way to go back to the original if the new ones don't
 work for me?

Yes. rpm -e the new one, and change your XFree86 config file back to its
original condition (changing, what, two or three lines).
 
 I sometimes experience strange effects in X where the display looks like
 repetitions of 15 or so horizontal lines, making reading it impossible, and
 all I can do is a reboot. Perhaps the new drivers would fix this problem.

Reboot? Are you not able to simply restart the X server?
 
Miark




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Re: [newbie] NVidia RPMs for LM 8.1

2002-02-09 Thread Paul

On Sat, 9 Feb 2002 17:10:21 -0700 Miark wrote:

Hi Miark,

 Can anyone tell me what the advantage would be of using the new Nvidia
 drivers over the ones that are installed with mandrake (running 8.0
 here)?

nVidia's drivers support 3D. The stock Mandrake driver (nv) does not.

That alone would not be enough reason to upgrade. As far as I know, 3D is
mainly for games, right? I never play games on the computer.

 And is there an easy way to go back to the original if the new ones don't
 work for me?

Yes. rpm -e the new one, and change your XFree86 config file back to its
original condition (changing, what, two or three lines).

Ah, that is simple enough :)
 
 I sometimes experience strange effects in X where the display looks like
 repetitions of 15 or so horizontal lines, making reading it impossible,
 and all I can do is a reboot. Perhaps the new drivers would fix this
 problem.

Reboot? Are you not able to simply restart the X server?

If I just restart X the problem persists. I never had this problem before,
just after getting things running on this new PC with the Nvidia card this
strange stuff started happening. And I still suspect that playing movies is
the problem. When I don't play movies I can easily get an uptime of 30+
days. And when I get the UPS probably more, since the power here sometimes
disappears for a minute.

Thanks for the help!
Paul

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Re: [newbie] NVidia RPMs for LM 8.1

2002-02-09 Thread Lyvim Xaphir


One advantage that the Nvida drivers give is a better use of the AGP 
interface.  With the native drivers, the X gui seems much snappier.  I 
enabled Nvida style Agp and played around with some of the options; I did'nt 
do much except leave the Agp interface under Nvidia control.

To me the gui seems quicker.  But bear in mind that I have not run any formal 
benchmarks, so I don't have any concrete beyond doubt numbers for you; all 
I'm able to convey is a humanistic feel for the system being snappier; so 
take that for what it's worth.

One thing that is beyond doubt, however, is that games like Quake3 and 
Baldur's Gate2 benefit in large degree from these drivers.  So you can take 
that for what it's worth, also.



On Sunday 10 February 2002 01:28, you wrote:

*snippers

 If I just restart X the problem persists. I never had this problem before,
 just after getting things running on this new PC with the Nvidia card this
 strange stuff started happening. And I still suspect that playing movies is
 the problem. When I don't play movies I can easily get an uptime of 30+
 days. And when I get the UPS probably more, since the power here sometimes
 disappears for a minute.

 Thanks for the help!
 Paul

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[newbie] NVidia RPMs for LM 8.1

2002-02-08 Thread Terry S.

Does anyone know where I can get the NVidia_kernel RPM for an NVidia
GeForce2 MX/400?  The only one NVidia offers is an RPM for an i686, but
I can't use it since I don't have an 686 processor.  I have searched
RPMfind.net, and they didn't have one either.

Thanks!

Terry





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Re: [newbie] NVidia RPMs for LM 8.1

2002-02-08 Thread Ralph Slooten

They offer src.rpm's om the nvidia site... why not make your own rpm's?

rpm --rebuild NVidia_blaah_blaah.src.rpm

Greetings,
Ralph


Terry S. wrote:
 Does anyone know where I can get the NVidia_kernel RPM for an NVidia
 GeForce2 MX/400?  The only one NVidia offers is an RPM for an i686, but
 I can't use it since I don't have an 686 processor.  I have searched
 RPMfind.net, and they didn't have one either.
 
 Thanks!
 
 Terry



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Re: [newbie] NVidia RPMs for LM 8.1

2002-02-08 Thread Richard Wenninger

Try using their source rpms.

The installation instruction are in the README at the bottom of this page.

http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?PAGE=linux


On Friday 08 February 2002 02:07 pm, you wrote:
 Does anyone know where I can get the NVidia_kernel RPM for an NVidia
 GeForce2 MX/400?  The only one NVidia offers is an RPM for an i686, but
 I can't use it since I don't have an 686 processor.  I have searched
 RPMfind.net, and they didn't have one either.

 Thanks!

 Terry



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Re: [newbie] NVidia RPMs for LM 8.1

2002-02-08 Thread Rick

OK... I think I just learned something about RPM...

Do I understand Mr. Slooten correctly? By using RPM with a --rebuild
option on a SRC.RPM, you'll create a binary build of the SRC RPM??

Hmmm... At the console, rpm --help doesn't even list --rebuild (of course,
it lists --rebuilddb but that's different). Yet, if I enter rpm --rebuild
(with no package mentioned) I receive the message:

rpmb: no packages files given for rebuild

This seems to imply that the --rebuild option does, indeed exist. 

So... will this create a binary build RPM from a SRC RPM??

Thanks,
Rick

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 Ralph Slooten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 They offer src.rpm's om the nvidia site... why not make your own rpm's?
 
 rpm --rebuild NVidia_blaah_blaah.src.rpm
 
 Greetings,
 Ralph
 
 
 Terry S. wrote:
  Does anyone know where I can get the NVidia_kernel RPM for an NVidia
  GeForce2 MX/400?  The only one NVidia offers is an RPM for an i686,
 but
  I can't use it since I don't have an 686 processor.  I have searched
  RPMfind.net, and they didn't have one either.
  
  Thanks!
  
  Terry
 
 
 
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Re: [newbie] NVidia RPMs for LM 8.1

2002-02-08 Thread Ralph Slooten

Hey there Rick

Rick wrote:
 OK... I think I just learned something about RPM...
 
 Do I understand Mr. Slooten correctly? By using RPM with a --rebuild
 option on a SRC.RPM, you'll create a binary build of the SRC RPM??

Please call me Ralph :-) Sounds so formal... Mr. Slooten...

Yes, by doing that you do create your own binaries...


 Hmmm... At the console, rpm --help doesn't even list --rebuild (of course,
 it lists --rebuilddb but that's different). Yet, if I enter rpm --rebuild
 (with no package mentioned) I receive the message:

Maybe man rpm will tell you more? Well yes, an example is rpm 
--rebuild NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-1251.src.rpm ~ as in rpm --rebuild filename


 rpmb: no packages files given for rebuild

Correct, you have to specify which file to rebuild.


 This seems to imply that the --rebuild option does, indeed exist. 

Correct..

 So... will this create a binary build RPM from a SRC RPM??

Well, it should do. I do believe you will need the kernel-devel files 
and such to do this though. If it compiles correctly, and ends of saying 
RPM: Created NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-1251.i586.rpm (or whatever)

then you should be able to find the 2 files it's created in 
/usr/src/RPM/RPMS/whatever architecture you have/

Good luck, and if you have problems, please just let me / us know...

Greetings
Ralph


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