RE: [newbie] Quotas :o(

2005-03-04 Thread Ken Walker
So your saying that everybody in newbie is also in expert and everybody in
expert is also in newbie, so why are there two different groups. Why not
just have one called mandrake-users

Isn't it better to ask all groups relative to the same subject the same
question, just in case one of those members, who might not be in the other
groups, knows the answer.

Or is it like going into the paper shop to find out they don't have your
paper, and not going into the paper shop opposite because it would be the
logical thing to do. But frowned upon because you've already asked
elsewhere. Even though there is a very high chance they will have your
paper.

?

Well it seems that nobody in either group knows anything about or uses
quotas.

:o(

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Subject: Re: [newbie] Quotas :o(


On Thursday 03 March 2005 08:22 am, Ken Walker wrote:
 I'm trying to set up quotas on a LM8.1 server

 Ken
hey Ken, if you want an answer around here, then don't mass mail the same 
question to both newbie and expert
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Re: [newbie] Quotas :o(

2005-03-04 Thread et
On Friday 04 March 2005 05:20 am, Ken Walker wrote:
 So your saying that everybody in newbie is also in expert and everybody in
 expert is also in newbie,
I am saying that the folks around both lists with the correct opinions are 
usaually on both lists.

 I am also saying that a search of the archives of the list you think is close 
to the type of question your question belongs to will be even quicker than 
waiting for an answer after you ask the same question to 5 lists.


 so why are there two different groups. Why not 
 just have one called mandrake-users
because the list are to helpfolks that don't have an answer, not to answer 
your and only your questions when you want to not research an answer.



 Isn't it better to ask all groups relative to the same subject the same
 question, just in case one of those members, who might not be in the other
 groups, knows the answer.
maybe, but it seem to me even better to have a group of past problems and 
answers to search thru... 



 Or is it like going into the paper shop to find out they don't have your
 paper, and not going into the paper shop opposite because it would be the
 logical thing to do. But frowned upon because you've already asked
 elsewhere. Even though there is a very high chance they will have your
 paper.
using your analogy...
if you ask one place and they don't have _then_ ask the next, thats one thing, 
if you go to 5 places at once, and ask for the paper for free, then you can't 
complain if each place thinks the other place will give it to you for free, 
and we will keep that paper for someone that won't get it any where else...



 Well it seems that nobody in either group knows anything about or uses
 quotas.
not olny doesn't know, but (obviously to you) doesn't even know how or wheree 
to look for information about quotas. did _you_ get any answers from any of 
the other addresses you 'spamed'* 

of course, since quatas is not something someone not sure how to install linux 
would be asking aboput, if I go to either the twiki or 
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/ 
scrolled down to the mandrake expert list area, clicked on mandrake expert and 
it brought me to a page where I could type in 'quota' and get as much 
information conerning other folks adventures in quotas, I might not only find 
my answer, but learn a bunch about other pitfalls I might avoid. not to 
metion find out thet some of the folks right on this list realy do have a 
clue.. damn, go figure

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-expertw=2r=1s=quotasq=bv

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-expertm=108574881502759w=2

* i used 'spamed' because that is the kind of filter you hit in lists like 
this, when you send the same mail to many addresses (more than 3)
and that was my point, not that you are a wise mouth, but that a lot of folks 
spam filters (mine too) catch any letter not from a 'white list address' that 
is sent to more than 4 addresses.


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Re: [newbie] Quotas :o(

2005-03-04 Thread Margot
Ken Walker wrote:
So your saying that everybody in newbie is also in expert and everybody in
expert is also in newbie, so why are there two different groups. Why not
just have one called mandrake-users
Isn't it better to ask all groups relative to the same subject the same
question, just in case one of those members, who might not be in the other
groups, knows the answer.
I'm afraid I know nothing of quotas, so I can't answer your original 
question, but there is a *very* good reason for not cross-posting the 
same message to both the newbie and expert lists...Sympa (the mandrake 
mailing list handler) cannot cope with cross-posting so, instead of one 
copy of your message going to the newbie list and one to the expert 
list, BOTH copies reached the newbie list!

I suggest you try a new message to the expert list, where someone may be 
able to help you.

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Re: [newbie] Quotas :o(

2005-03-04 Thread yankl
On Friday 04 March 2005 05:20, Ken Walker wrote:
 So your saying that everybody in newbie is also in expert and everybody in
 expert is also in newbie, so why are there two different groups. Why not
 just have one called mandrake-users

It how you try to answer in newbie one probably try to give more info about 
subject be as guiish as possible. In expert one probably will assume that 
simple things was done. One would assume you know vi and cli. It not about 
even answerer but about one who asked a question. You better RTFM and google 
before you ask your question in expert. Other wise question will not be 
answered or you will be insulted with RTFM.

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[newbie] Quotas :o(

2005-03-03 Thread Ken Walker
I'm trying to set up quotas on a LM8.1 server ( yes i know it needs
upgrading, which is in progress but till then its still being used, and as
usual they want it now ) using kernel 2.4.18-8.2mdk.

I have quota-3.01-0.1mdk.ia64.rpm installed, and i have fstab set up.

I can run quotacheck, which tells me it has updated and replaced the
aquota.user and aquota.group files.

I can add users with edquota username, and i can run repquota -av which
gives me a listing of all the quota accounts i have added with their
individual settings.

my problem now is if i run quotaon /spare1, /spare1 is the partition i'm
using for quotas, i get the following

# quotaon /spare1
quotaon: quotactl() on /dev/sdb8: Invalid argument
quotaon: quotactl() on /dev/sdb8: Invalid argument

and because quotaon comes back with an error, its not turning quotas on adn
it doesn't update the userquota data when they add/ remove files.

if i run 

quotaon -avug

i go back to the command line with no verbose or errors, but again checking
user quotas, add/removing files does not change their quota used values.

I've googled all night for info on the invalid argument, but can't find
anything specific to my problem, i get lots of quotactl() man pages but
there a bit beyond telling me where to look

Had anybody any ideas they can pass to me.

Many thanks 

Ken


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Re: [newbie] Quotas :o(

2005-03-03 Thread et
On Thursday 03 March 2005 08:22 am, Ken Walker wrote:
 I'm trying to set up quotas on a LM8.1 server

 Ken
hey Ken, if you want an answer around here, then don't mass mail the same 
question to both newbie and expert
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