Re: [newbie] RC2 and networking
On Sat, 2003-03-15 at 04:44, Mark Weaver wrote: personally I'd like to see at least one more RC come out before 9.1 goes final. There appears to be some nagging issues that have yet to be resolved. For me, the only one I've got is the application filesystem nav windows in KDE that don't work unless you type the path in the look in field. It's actually a bug in KDE 3.1 - I've posted on the kde-linux group and that was the answer back - no fix yet, but it was recommended to change the mouse settings - which I did, but still didn't fix. Ah well...if it ain't one think, it's another... I posted this on cooker, but it's been sitting there for two days without so much as a peep. the only app nav window that works is the one that is in Kate which works perfectly. The strange thing is that this behavior is only seen while running KDE. If I've got an app running in any other window manager the nav windows work as they're supposed to. Even the native KDE apps like Kwrite. Well, then it does go to show ya that it's a core KDE 3.1 issue - and actually, I'm going to do some further digging today to see what I can come up with... I'm still not happy with Gnome 2.2.0 - ain't been happy with Gnome since they started moving away from the 1.4+ base - it's been more than six months and they're just frigging up more and more - only the hard core Gnome lovers are sticking to it, and it's getting worse and worse reviews; and being that I run Galeon and Evolution, problems with Gnome tend to cause me aches in Evolution at times...but easily resolved - just to delete the damn .gnome* files and fire it up again...bloody theme engine chokes and pukes. Meanwhile, last time I tried to reply to yer email, it hung for days in limbo cuz it couldn't find your server...hope you got that bit resolved mate... Here goes..! -- Sat Mar 15 08:30:00 EST 2003 08:30:00 up 25 min, 4 users, load average: 0.02, 0.10, 0.12 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * MDK 9.1 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** The fundamental principle of science, the definition almost, is this: the sole test of the validity of any idea is experiment. -- Richard P. Feynman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RC2 and networking
i'd hate to dash your hopes,
but release candidates are there for people to try,
so that bugs and issues can be ironed out.
if you as facing such massive problems,
and yet bear such high hopes on mdk 9.1
you SHOULD report the issues,
(if they haven't already been reported)
and try to find solutions for them.
else whatever failed will probably continue with mdk 9.1.
luck
- Original Message -
From: Roger Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 07:11
Subject: Re: [newbie] RC2 and networking
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Mark wrote:
Hmm...I just entered the IP to my router (gateway), which is exactly
what
I did to get this install (9.1 b3) online. Successfully, as you can
see...;-)
Hi Roger,
I just saw this thread, so, I'm a few days behind on it. when I saw the
original post I realized what I think it the problem. that would be
that
you've got your modem on the wrong side of your router.
the setup should look like this:
[PC][Router]-[CableModem]{ISP}---{Internet}
according to you post your setup appears like this:
[PC][CableModem][Router]{ISP}.{Internet}
With the modem between your PC and Router I don't think things are going
to work too well.
Thanks for the suggestion, but my setup is [PC] -- [Router] --
[Cablemodem] -- etc. As I had said, it worked fine with everything prior
to rc2; in fact, right now, I'm running beta 3...it seems to work better
for me than rc1 did.
Actually, I'm not touching rc2 again...someone told me to try installing
firestarter on it, so I put the rpm on a floppy, installed rc2, couldn't
access my floppy drive. Put the rpm on a cdrom, and then couldn't access
either my cd-rw, or my dvd player. rc2 was nothing short of a colossal
failure for me...really, really hoping that whatever problems will be
sorted out by the final release, so that my fear that there is a bug that
only manifests itself on my pc, or almost as bad, that I'm a total idiot,
will be assuaged.
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Re: [newbie] RC2 and networking
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, stormjumper wrote:
i'd hate to dash your hopes,
but release candidates are there for people to try,
so that bugs and issues can be ironed out.
if you as facing such massive problems,
and yet bear such high hopes on mdk 9.1
you SHOULD report the issues,
Ah yes, that never occured to me. ;-)
Oh wait, no. Already done.
(if they haven't already been reported)
and try to find solutions for them.
Well, obviously, I've been trying to do that.
else whatever failed will probably continue with mdk 9.1.
luck
Thank you.
- Original Message -
From: Roger Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 07:11
Subject: Re: [newbie] RC2 and networking
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Mark wrote:
Hmm...I just entered the IP to my router (gateway), which is exactly
what
I did to get this install (9.1 b3) online. Successfully, as you can
see...;-)
Hi Roger,
I just saw this thread, so, I'm a few days behind on it. when I saw the
original post I realized what I think it the problem. that would be
that
you've got your modem on the wrong side of your router.
the setup should look like this:
[PC][Router]-[CableModem]{ISP}---{Internet}
according to you post your setup appears like this:
[PC][CableModem][Router]{ISP}.{Internet}
With the modem between your PC and Router I don't think things are going
to work too well.
Thanks for the suggestion, but my setup is [PC] -- [Router] --
[Cablemodem] -- etc. As I had said, it worked fine with everything prior
to rc2; in fact, right now, I'm running beta 3...it seems to work better
for me than rc1 did.
Actually, I'm not touching rc2 again...someone told me to try installing
firestarter on it, so I put the rpm on a floppy, installed rc2, couldn't
access my floppy drive. Put the rpm on a cdrom, and then couldn't access
either my cd-rw, or my dvd player. rc2 was nothing short of a colossal
failure for me...really, really hoping that whatever problems will be
sorted out by the final release, so that my fear that there is a bug that
only manifests itself on my pc, or almost as bad, that I'm a total idiot,
will be assuaged.
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Re: [newbie] RC2 and networking
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, Mark Weaver wrote: Are you still getting the spontaneous reboots with b3? I haven't in 2 days, 19 hours, and 40 minutes... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RC2 and networking
On Thursday 13 Mar 2003 23:14, Roger Sherman wrote: On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, Mark Weaver wrote: Are you still getting the spontaneous reboots with b3? I haven't in 2 days, 19 hours, and 40 minutes... Excuse me for butting in - where is rc3 at, I can only find rc2 on my local servers -- O o _\_ o \\/ o\ . //\___= '' Wed, 12 Mar 2003 23:32:51 + 11:32pm up 14:52, 0 users, load average: 2.14, 2.08, 2.02 The great secret in life ... [is] not to open your letters for a fortnight. At the expiration of that period you will find that nearly all of them have answered themselves. -- Arthur Binstead Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RC2 and networking
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, Stephen Kitchener wrote: On Thursday 13 Mar 2003 23:14, Roger Sherman wrote: On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, Mark Weaver wrote: Are you still getting the spontaneous reboots with b3? I haven't in 2 days, 19 hours, and 40 minutes... Excuse me for butting in - where is rc3 at, I can only find rc2 on my local servers rc3 isn't out, if in fact there is going to be one. I'm using beta 3, which was out right before rc1. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RC2 and networking
- Original Message - From: Roger Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 07:13 Subject: Re: [newbie] RC2 and networking On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, stormjumper wrote: i'd hate to dash your hopes, but release candidates are there for people to try, so that bugs and issues can be ironed out. if you as facing such massive problems, and yet bear such high hopes on mdk 9.1 you SHOULD report the issues, Ah yes, that never occured to me. ;-) Oh wait, no. Already done. my bad. :) *snipped* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RC2 and networking
On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 12:50, Roger Sherman wrote: rc3 isn't out, if in fact there is going to be one. I'm using beta 3, which was out right before rc1. I'd tend to reckon that rc2 is the last of the dinosaurs for 9.1's testing/polishing; just a few more glitches and it's a done deal. IMHO, that is... -- Thu Mar 13 18:05:00 EST 2003 18:05:00 up 1 day, 3:28, 5 users, load average: 0.09, 0.49, 0.54 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * MDK 9.1 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** The truth is what is; what should be is a dirty lie. -- Lenny Bruce Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RC2 and networking
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Mark wrote:
Hmm...I just entered the IP to my router (gateway), which is exactly what
I did to get this install (9.1 b3) online. Successfully, as you can
see...;-)
Hi Roger,
I just saw this thread, so, I'm a few days behind on it. when I saw the
original post I realized what I think it the problem. that would be that
you've got your modem on the wrong side of your router.
the setup should look like this:
[PC][Router]-[CableModem]{ISP}---{Internet}
according to you post your setup appears like this:
[PC][CableModem][Router]{ISP}.{Internet}
With the modem between your PC and Router I don't think things are going
to work too well.
Thanks for the suggestion, but my setup is [PC] -- [Router] --
[Cablemodem] -- etc. As I had said, it worked fine with everything prior
to rc2; in fact, right now, I'm running beta 3...it seems to work better
for me than rc1 did.
Actually, I'm not touching rc2 again...someone told me to try installing
firestarter on it, so I put the rpm on a floppy, installed rc2, couldn't
access my floppy drive. Put the rpm on a cdrom, and then couldn't access
either my cd-rw, or my dvd player. rc2 was nothing short of a colossal
failure for me...really, really hoping that whatever problems will be
sorted out by the final release, so that my fear that there is a bug that
only manifests itself on my pc, or almost as bad, that I'm a total idiot,
will be assuaged.
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Re: [newbie] RC2 and networking
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Roger Sherman wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Greg Meyer wrote:
On Thursday 06 March 2003 07:16 pm, Roger Sherman wrote:
OK, thanks...I actually use a static IP, since my PC is behind the router,
but thanks just the same!
Well that should mean that you did not enter your nameservers in drakconnect.
If you did and they did not get entered in /etc/resolv.conf, that is a new
bug.
Hmm...I just entered the IP to my router (gateway), which is exactly what
I did to get this install (9.1 b3) online. Successfully, as you can
see...;-)
Hi Roger,
I just saw this thread, so, I'm a few days behind on it. when I saw the
original post I realized what I think it the problem. that would be that
you've got your modem on the wrong side of your router.
the setup should look like this:
[PC][Router]-[CableModem]{ISP}---{Internet}
according to you post your setup appears like this:
[PC][CableModem][Router]{ISP}.{Internet}
With the modem between your PC and Router I don't think things are going
to work too well.
--
Mark
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[newbie] RC2 and networking
Is there a trick to getting RC2 online? I have a cable modem, and a Netgear router between the modem and my PC...I set up networking the way I have on every version of mandrake since 8.0 came out (RC1 excepted - didn't bother trying to set that up during install, since I heard it didn't work), but it didn't happen - so I then tried setting it up from Control Center. Nothing. Anyone else having any problems? -- peace, Rog http://www.slammingrooves.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] RC2 and networking
Title: RE: [newbie] RC2 and networking -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Roger Sherman Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 10:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] RC2 and networking Is there a trick to getting RC2 online? I have a cable modem, and a Netgear router between the modem and my PC...I set up networking the way I have on every version of mandrake since 8.0 came out (RC1 excepted - didn't bother trying to set that up during install, since I heard it didn't work), but it didn't happen - so I then tried setting it up from Control Center. Nothing. Anyone else having any problems? -- peace, Rog http://www.slammingrooves.com Check and see if shorewall is installed. If so uninstall it and try the connection again. It doesn't set up the permissions correctly and I have not been able to find the problem in scripts. So no shorewall. Reported it on bugzilla. HTH Dennis M.
RE: [newbie] RC2 and networking
On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Myers, Dennis R NWO wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roger Sherman Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 10:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] RC2 and networking Is there a trick to getting RC2 online? I have a cable modem, and a Netgear router between the modem and my PC...I set up networking the way I have on every version of mandrake since 8.0 came out (RC1 excepted - didn't bother trying to set that up during install, since I heard it didn't work), but it didn't happen - so I then tried setting it up from Control Center. Nothing. Anyone else having any problems? -- peace, Rog http://www.slammingrooves.com Check and see if shorewall is installed. If so uninstall it and try the connection again. It doesn't set up the permissions correctly and I have not been able to find the problem in scripts. So no shorewall. Reported it on bugzilla. HTH Dennis M. Thanks, Dennis - I'll give it a try. -- peace, Rog http://www.slammingrooves.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RC2 and networking
On Thu, 06 Mar 2003 11:09:12 -0500 (EST) Roger Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a trick to getting RC2 online? I have a cable modem, and a Netgear router between the modem and my PC...I set up networking the way I have on every version of mandrake since 8.0 came out Small rant first. I much prefer, and still use, dhcpcd rather than dhcp-common/dhcp-client which is now being used by the installation and drakconnect. No one has yet to give a reason as to why the change was made. Check your /etc/resolv.conf You will probably find that it is an empty file. Insert 'nameserver [whatever IP]' and you should be immediately able to connect to the net. Charles -- Absence makes the heart go wander. - Mandrake Linux 9.1 on PurpleDragon Kernel- 2.4.21-0.12mdk - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] RC2 and networking
On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Charles A Edwards wrote: On Thu, 06 Mar 2003 11:09:12 -0500 (EST) Roger Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a trick to getting RC2 online? I have a cable modem, and a Netgear router between the modem and my PC...I set up networking the way I have on every version of mandrake since 8.0 came out Small rant first. I much prefer, and still use, dhcpcd rather than dhcp-common/dhcp-client which is now being used by the installation and drakconnect. No one has yet to give a reason as to why the change was made. Check your /etc/resolv.conf You will probably find that it is an empty file. Insert 'nameserver [whatever IP]' and you should be immediately able to connect to the net. Charles Thanks, Charles, I'll add that to the list. :-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RC2 and networking
On Friday 07 March 2003 01:22 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote:
On Thu, 06 Mar 2003 11:09:12 -0500 (EST)
Roger Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there a trick to getting RC2 online? I have a cable modem, and a
Netgear router between the modem and my PC...I set up networking the
way I have on every version of mandrake since 8.0 came out
Small rant first.
I much prefer, and still use, dhcpcd rather than dhcp-common/dhcp-client
which is now being used by the installation and drakconnect.
No one has yet to give a reason as to why the change was made.
Check your /etc/resolv.conf
You will probably find that it is an empty file.
Insert 'nameserver [whatever IP]' and you should be immediately able to
connect to the net.
A fix was just announced on the Cooker list. Here is Florin's post
snip
ok, this is fixed now ...
make sure that the /sbin/dhclient-script file is like this :
function make_resolv_conf() {
if [ -n $new_domain_name -o -n $new_domain_name_servers ]; then
[ -n $new_domain_name ] echo search $new_domain_name
/etc/resolv.conf
for nameserver in $new_domain_name_servers; do
or wait for the next dhcp-client package ...
/snip
--
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Re: [newbie] RC2 and networking
Roger , I have the same setup , and could not get rc2 to connect until I installed the latest firestarter 0.9.1 rpm and started it. after it's started everything worked and I could connect to the LAN too. try it it may work for you too! later Roger Sherman wrote: On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Myers, Dennis R NWO wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roger Sherman Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 10:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] RC2 and networking Is there a trick to getting RC2 online? I have a cable modem, and a Netgear router between the modem and my PC...I set up networking the way I have on every version of mandrake since 8.0 came out (RC1 excepted - didn't bother trying to set that up during install, since I heard it didn't work), but it didn't happen - so I then tried setting it up from Control Center. Nothing. Anyone else having any problems? -- peace, Rog http://www.slammingrooves.com Check and see if shorewall is installed. If so uninstall it and try the connection again. It doesn't set up the permissions correctly and I have not been able to find the problem in scripts. So no shorewall. Reported it on bugzilla. HTH Dennis M. Thanks, Dennis - I'll give it a try. -- peace, Rog http://www.slammingrooves.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RC2 and networking
On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Greg Meyer wrote:
On Friday 07 March 2003 01:22 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote:
On Thu, 06 Mar 2003 11:09:12 -0500 (EST)
Roger Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there a trick to getting RC2 online? I have a cable modem, and a
Netgear router between the modem and my PC...I set up networking the
way I have on every version of mandrake since 8.0 came out
Small rant first.
I much prefer, and still use, dhcpcd rather than dhcp-common/dhcp-client
which is now being used by the installation and drakconnect.
No one has yet to give a reason as to why the change was made.
Check your /etc/resolv.conf
You will probably find that it is an empty file.
Insert 'nameserver [whatever IP]' and you should be immediately able to
connect to the net.
A fix was just announced on the Cooker list. Here is Florin's post
snip
ok, this is fixed now ...
make sure that the /sbin/dhclient-script file is like this :
function make_resolv_conf() {
if [ -n $new_domain_name -o -n $new_domain_name_servers ]; then
[ -n $new_domain_name ] echo search $new_domain_name
/etc/resolv.conf
for nameserver in $new_domain_name_servers; do
or wait for the next dhcp-client package ...
/snip
OK, thanks...I actually use a static IP, since my PC is behind the router,
but thanks just the same!
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Re: [newbie] RC2 and networking
On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Greg Meyer wrote: On Thursday 06 March 2003 07:16 pm, Roger Sherman wrote: OK, thanks...I actually use a static IP, since my PC is behind the router, but thanks just the same! Well that should mean that you did not enter your nameservers in drakconnect. If you did and they did not get entered in /etc/resolv.conf, that is a new bug. Hmm...I just entered the IP to my router (gateway), which is exactly what I did to get this install (9.1 b3) online. Successfully, as you can see...;-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RC2 and networking
On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, mycal62 wrote: Roger , I have the same setup , and could not get rc2 to connect until I installed the latest firestarter 0.9.1 rpm and started it. after it's started everything worked and I could connect to the LAN too. try it it may work for you too! later Thanks, man...I'm gearing up to give rc2 another shot now, so I'll try that... Roger Sherman wrote: On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Myers, Dennis R NWO wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roger Sherman Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 10:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] RC2 and networking Is there a trick to getting RC2 online? I have a cable modem, and a Netgear router between the modem and my PC...I set up networking the way I have on every version of mandrake since 8.0 came out (RC1 excepted - didn't bother trying to set that up during install, since I heard it didn't work), but it didn't happen - so I then tried setting it up from Control Center. Nothing. Anyone else having any problems? -- peace, Rog http://www.slammingrooves.com Check and see if shorewall is installed. If so uninstall it and try the connection again. It doesn't set up the permissions correctly and I have not been able to find the problem in scripts. So no shorewall. Reported it on bugzilla. HTH Dennis M. Thanks, Dennis - I'll give it a try. -- peace, Rog http://www.slammingrooves.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
