[newbie] True CDRW Functions In File Manager?

2003-06-15 Thread KCables
Mandrake 9.1

I am new to linux and have a perplexing issue. Altho I am aware of numerous cd 
Burner/ cdrw burn programs I can't seem to find or set up what I really want 
and need. I need my cdrw drive to work just as a hard drive, a floppy, a zip 
drive, etc. In other words, I need it so files can be dragged and dropped 
from my file manager, files can be added, appended, deleted in a normal file 
manger fashion rather than having to open some burn program. Burn programs 
are great for copying cd's, making music cd's, making permanent storage cd's, 
etc.  but they suck when it comes to cdrw's and archiving. CDRW's were 
designed to work as removable, rewritable drives, just like floppy's and 
zips. Having to haul out a program every time you want to add a file is not 
what they were designed for. Is there a cdrw burn program that provides a way 
to effectively utilize on-demand cdrw write/rewrite/delete functions in the 
file manger scenerio? Also, if something is available for that, would I be 
able to take a cdrw disk used in linux, and be able to open the files on it 
on a windows machine?



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Re: [newbie] True CDRW Functions In File Manager?

2003-06-15 Thread KCables
On Sunday 15 June 2003 02:08 pm, Derek Jennings wrote:
 On Sunday 15 Jun 2003 6:23 pm, KCables wrote:
  Mandrake 9.1
 
  I am new to linux and have a perplexing issue. Altho I am aware of
  numerous cd Burner/ cdrw burn programs I can't seem to find or set up
  what I really want and need. I need my cdrw drive to work just as a hard
  drive, a floppy, a zip drive, etc. In other words, I need it so files can


 What you are asking for is something called Packet Writing  Packet
 writing allows you to treat a CD-RW just like an ordinary file system.
 There is a project for that but AFAIK  it is not ready for use yet.

 derek

Okay. I guess that's bad news and good news.  :-) Thanks for the info and I'll 
keep a lookout for something. Any chance that you know where I can perhaps 
get some info concerning the development of this packet writing feature?

Cables


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Re: [newbie] True CDRW Functions In File Manager?

2003-06-15 Thread Charlie
quoting KCables; Sunday 15 June 2003 11:23 am:
 Mandrake 9.1

 I am new to linux and have a perplexing issue. Altho I am aware of numerous
 cd Burner/ cdrw burn programs I can't seem to find or set up what I really
 want and need. I need my cdrw drive to work just as a hard drive, a floppy,
 a zip drive, etc. In other words, I need it so files can be dragged and
 dropped from my file manager, files can be added, appended, deleted in a
 normal file manger fashion rather than having to open some burn program.
 Burn programs are great for copying cd's, making music cd's, making
 permanent storage cd's, etc.  but they suck when it comes to cdrw's and
 archiving. CDRW's were designed to work as removable, rewritable drives,
 just like floppy's and zips. Having to haul out a program every time you
 want to add a file is not what they were designed for. Is there a cdrw burn
 program that provides a way to effectively utilize on-demand cdrw
 write/rewrite/delete functions in the file manger scenerio? Also, if
 something is available for that, would I be able to take a cdrw disk used
 in linux, and be able to open the files on it on a windows machine?

First; please don't use a reply to for mail list posts. It's a pain to have to 
edit and since this list is archived it's a good bet that anything useful 
will help somebody else in the future. Thanks in advance.

What you need is called Mount Rainier, and it ain't anywhere near ready for 
the masses nor is it compatible with your older CD-R/CD-RW. You'd need a 
new compatible drive when it is ready.

The issue of whether a disk written using GNU/Linux or Windows being readable 
under the other? All that one needs to read the disk under either OS is UDF, 
which has been around for some time. Doesn't matter which writes and which 
reads it, although you'll find that Windows has a harder time reading things 
than a real operating system. g

From TechTarget's (http://whatis.techtarget.com/whome/0,,sid9,00.html) 
whatis search facility:

Universal Disk Format (UDF) is a CD-ROM and DVD file system standard 
developed as a means of ensuring consistency among data written to various 
optical media, by facilitating both data interchange and the implementation 
of the ISO/IEC 13346 standard. UDF is required for DVD-ROMs, and is used by 
DVD to contain MPEG audio/video streams. Originally developed as a 
replacement for the file system specifications in the original CD-ROM 
standard, ISO 9660, UDF is used by CD-R and CD-RW in a process called packet 
writing that makes CD writing more efficient in terms of the time and disk 
space required.

The Optical Storage Technology Association (OSTA) defines the UDF 
specification as a subset of ISO/IEC 13346, which it promotes as a single 
file system that overcomes limitations of ISO 9660 and redirectors such as 
CDFS. UDF is used to ensure compatibility across platforms, as well as among 
various CD and DVD applications.

If you want to learn more about CD-RWs (or anything else) try a Google search. 
On something such as the subject of your post I'd probably use:

CD-RW; packet writing; Mount Rainier 

You'll probably want to pack a lunch though, there's a bit of information out 
there to read through. :-) 

Word wrap will kill this link probably but:

http://www.google.ca/search?q=CD-RW%3B+packet+writing%3B+Mount+Rainierhl=enlr=ie=UTF-8safe=offsa=G

is the result of the search suggested above.

Good luck, and I hope this was of some help.

Regards;
Charlie
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