Re: [newbie] User IDs start at 500 or 501?

2003-08-14 Thread David
On Sat, 2003-07-26 at 19:33, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Saturday 26 Jul 2003 7:12 pm, Technoslick wrote:
  On Friday 25 July 2003 06:23 pm, Andy Davidson graced me with:
   I just installed 9.1 on a new system and ran into a difference
   between how the installer creates new users and how drakconf
   does. I created a couple of users during the install and they
   ended up with uid = 501 and 502.  As they always have on previous
   versions of Mandrake.
  
   Then when the system was up I created several more, very
   carefully creating them in the same order as on our other
   systems.  After I spent all the time getting them created and set
   up, I discovered that they did not match the uid's on our other
   systems.  It seems that drakconf starts its numbering at 500. 
   So, using letters for the order in which I created them, the
   users were a=501, b=502, c=500, d=503, e=504, etc.
  
   I had to rip out all the users from c up, create a dummy at 500
   and redo them.
  
   Argghhh. Why?
  
   andy
 
  I haven't encountered this problem in Mandrake between the
  different ways that user accounts can be created. Thanks for the
  warning!
 
  I can sympathize with you. I run both Mandrake and Red Hat
  workstations connected to a Red Hat server. I found out long after
  I had set-up my first of the Red Hat PC's that they start users at
  UID=500, while Mandrake was always starting at UID=501. For the
  longest time, I couldn't understand why I was having Samba problems
  with shared files under rthe same user, but from different Linux
  machines. This was the culprit. Now, whenever I setup a RH
  workstation or server that needs to have sympathetic UID's, I
  create the user at the comand line with the correct UID to match
  those in Mandrake.
 
 This can also cause problems if you are installing two versions of the 
 distro, or any distro for that matter.  Unless you use the same 
 routine every time for adding users you will get crossed in the UIDs 
 (there's a way round it, which I think Derek pointed out), so my 
 routine is to add root and myself only at install, then add users one 
 at a time and in the same order every time.  Without this the users 
 can't read their own folders and files that have the UID attached as 
 owner.
 
 Anne
 
 
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Would it not be better to use NIS?

David


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Re: [newbie] User IDs start at 500 or 501?

2003-07-26 Thread Technoslick
On Friday 25 July 2003 06:23 pm, Andy Davidson graced me with:
 I just installed 9.1 on a new system and ran into a difference
 between how the installer creates new users and how drakconf does. 
 I created a couple of users during the install and they ended up
 with uid = 501 and 502.  As they always have on previous versions
 of Mandrake.

 Then when the system was up I created several more, very carefully
 creating them in the same order as on our other systems.  After I
 spent all the time getting them created and set up, I discovered
 that they did not match the uid's on our other systems.  It seems
 that drakconf starts its numbering at 500.  So, using letters for
 the order in which I created them, the users were a=501, b=502,
 c=500, d=503, e=504, etc.

 I had to rip out all the users from c up, create a dummy at 500 and
 redo them.

 Argghhh. Why?

 andy

I haven't encountered this problem in Mandrake between the different 
ways that user accounts can be created. Thanks for the warning!

I can sympathize with you. I run both Mandrake and Red Hat 
workstations connected to a Red Hat server. I found out long after I 
had set-up my first of the Red Hat PC's that they start users at 
UID=500, while Mandrake was always starting at UID=501. For the 
longest time, I couldn't understand why I was having Samba problems 
with shared files under rthe same user, but from different Linux 
machines. This was the culprit. Now, whenever I setup a RH 
workstation or server that needs to have sympathetic UID's, I create 
the user at the comand line with the correct UID to match those in 
Mandrake.

FWIW,

T


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Re: [newbie] User IDs start at 500 or 501?

2003-07-26 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 26 Jul 2003 7:12 pm, Technoslick wrote:
 On Friday 25 July 2003 06:23 pm, Andy Davidson graced me with:
  I just installed 9.1 on a new system and ran into a difference
  between how the installer creates new users and how drakconf
  does. I created a couple of users during the install and they
  ended up with uid = 501 and 502.  As they always have on previous
  versions of Mandrake.
 
  Then when the system was up I created several more, very
  carefully creating them in the same order as on our other
  systems.  After I spent all the time getting them created and set
  up, I discovered that they did not match the uid's on our other
  systems.  It seems that drakconf starts its numbering at 500. 
  So, using letters for the order in which I created them, the
  users were a=501, b=502, c=500, d=503, e=504, etc.
 
  I had to rip out all the users from c up, create a dummy at 500
  and redo them.
 
  Argghhh. Why?
 
  andy

 I haven't encountered this problem in Mandrake between the
 different ways that user accounts can be created. Thanks for the
 warning!

 I can sympathize with you. I run both Mandrake and Red Hat
 workstations connected to a Red Hat server. I found out long after
 I had set-up my first of the Red Hat PC's that they start users at
 UID=500, while Mandrake was always starting at UID=501. For the
 longest time, I couldn't understand why I was having Samba problems
 with shared files under rthe same user, but from different Linux
 machines. This was the culprit. Now, whenever I setup a RH
 workstation or server that needs to have sympathetic UID's, I
 create the user at the comand line with the correct UID to match
 those in Mandrake.

This can also cause problems if you are installing two versions of the 
distro, or any distro for that matter.  Unless you use the same 
routine every time for adding users you will get crossed in the UIDs 
(there's a way round it, which I think Derek pointed out), so my 
routine is to add root and myself only at install, then add users one 
at a time and in the same order every time.  Without this the users 
can't read their own folders and files that have the UID attached as 
owner.

Anne

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[newbie] User IDs start at 500 or 501?

2003-07-25 Thread Andy Davidson
I just installed 9.1 on a new system and ran into a difference between
how the installer creates new users and how drakconf does.  I created
a couple of users during the install and they ended up with uid = 501
and 502.  As they always have on previous versions of Mandrake.

Then when the system was up I created several more, very carefully
creating them in the same order as on our other systems.  After I
spent all the time getting them created and set up, I discovered that
they did not match the uid's on our other systems.  It seems that
drakconf starts its numbering at 500.  So, using letters for the order
in which I created them, the users were a=501, b=502, c=500, d=503,
e=504, etc.

I had to rip out all the users from c up, create a dummy at 500 and
redo them.

Argghhh. Why?

andy
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