Re: [newbie] VIA KT600 chipset

2003-10-07 Thread Charlie M.
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October 7, 2003 07:30 am, Tom Brinkman wrote:
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 N B, I've got a KT400a and 9.2. Basically the same chipset as
 the KT600. Everything should work right out of the box. The 6
 channel VIA AC97 works great.  You don't really need a 600 unless
 your gonna use a XP 3200+ with 400Mhz FSB (the only difference
 between the 400a and 600).  Both my chipset and the KT600 support
 SATA, but from all I've read, I'd stick to usin the ATA/133 ports,
 and forget SATA with Linux. It won't be any faster, probly slower
 than /133 anyhow.

Thanks Tom. 

I'll file your response under useful stuff until somebody around here asks 
me to build something other than a P 4 or dual Athlon machine. Seems to be 
almost all I'm asked about the last six weeks. Other than the usual K8 
(Athlon FX51, Opteron, and AMD 64) requests that can't be filled at the 
moment simply because no processors or motherboards are available.

Regards;
Charlie
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Re: [newbie] VIA KT600 chipset

2003-10-07 Thread 70233,2610
On Tue, 2003-10-07 at 08:30, Tom Brinkman wrote:

 N B, I've got a KT400a and 9.2. Basically the same chipset as 
 the KT600. Everything should work right out of the box. The 6 
 channel VIA AC97 works great.  You don't really need a 600 unless 
 your gonna use a XP 3200+ with 400Mhz FSB (the only difference 
 between the 400a and 600).  Both my chipset and the KT600 support 
 SATA, but from all I've read, I'd stick to usin the ATA/133 ports, 
 and forget SATA with Linux. It won't be any faster, probly slower 
 than /133 anyhow.
Thanks, Tom.  You're right, of course.  The main dif btw the two
chipsets is the FSB speed.  Its just that I've fallen in love with an
EpoX board with the KT600.  I got a small grant to build (I think that's
what the committee liked - sweat equity) four lab workstations to run
free software and National Semi's Labview for Linux, and could probably
squeeze in the XP3200+ CPUs, but I sure don't have to for this
application.  They'll replace six Pentium 133 machines running Win95!
The lab already has an nbd special KT333 computer running MDK 9.1.  I
know enough to stay away from the nForce chipsets. 

I'm thinking of the future too; in two years the kid they hire to
replace me (at twice my salary) can upgrade to the by-then cheap 400 MHz
FSB CPUs and soup them up a bit.

You're probably right that everything will work right out of the box,
but I'm spending student technology fee money here so I'm a bit
cautious.  I wish I knew somebody with one of these boards; I'd bring my
Knoppix disk to try it out.  I presume the 2.6 kernel would solve it all
in 2004 anyhow; maybe I can just take my time building them since
they're not really needed until next summer.

Regards,
-- 
N. B. Day




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Re: [newbie] VIA KT600 chipset

2003-10-07 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Tuesday October 7 2003 01:34 pm, 70233,2610 wrote:
 On Tue, 2003-10-07 at 08:30, Tom Brinkman wrote:
  N B, I've got a KT400a and 9.2. Basically the same chipset
  as the KT600. Everything should work right out of the box. The
  6 channel VIA AC97 works great.  You don't really need a 600
  unless your gonna use a XP 3200+ with 400Mhz FSB (the only
  difference between the 400a and 600).  Both my chipset and the
  KT600 support SATA, but from all I've read, I'd stick to usin
  the ATA/133 ports, and forget SATA with Linux. It won't be any
  faster, probly slower than /133 anyhow.

 Thanks, Tom.  You're right, of course.  The main dif btw the two
 chipsets is the FSB speed.  Its just that I've fallen in love
 with an EpoX board with the KT600.  I got a small grant to build
 (I think that's what the committee liked - sweat equity) four lab
 workstations to run free software and National Semi's Labview for
 Linux, and could probably squeeze in the XP3200+ CPUs, but I sure
 don't have to for this application.  They'll replace six Pentium
 133 machines running Win95! The lab already has an nbd special
 KT333 computer running MDK 9.1.  I know enough to stay away from
 the nForce chipsets.

 I'm thinking of the future too; in two years the kid they hire to
 replace me (at twice my salary) can upgrade to the by-then cheap
 400 MHz FSB CPUs and soup them up a bit.

 You're probably right that everything will work right out of the
 box, but I'm spending student technology fee money here so I'm a
 bit cautious.  I wish I knew somebody with one of these boards;
 I'd bring my Knoppix disk to try it out.  I presume the 2.6
 kernel would solve it all in 2004 anyhow; maybe I can just take
 my time building them since they're not really needed until next
 summer.

 Regards,1.0 

  The only Epox board AMD recommends for the 3200+ is the
EP-8RDA3+
ATX 
NVIDIA nForce2 Ultra 400 
 AGP 
 DDR 
Award

   I'd advise to avoid nVidia nForce chipset boards for now. They're 
no better supported under Linux than their video chipsets. IOW's, 
proprietary drivers that need to be changed any time you change 
kernels. Plus all the other garbage that goes with needin a 3rd 
party closed source tainted kernel.  There's been other complaints 
about nForce + Linux too.

  OTOH, if you've found an Epox VIA chipset board that supports 
400mhz FSB, the AMD lack of recommend might not be that big'a deal. 
Epox makes quality boards. 3200+'s are relatively expensive tho. 
For the purposes you cite, I'd look at AMD recommended VIA chipset 
boards for a XP 2500+ (cheap, about $80). Probly the current 'best 
bang for the buck' cpu AMD currently sells. It overclocks well too. 
http://www2.amd.com/us-en/recmobo/ResultsHandler/1,,30_182_869_4348^7923~63674,00.html

   In any event, I believe you'll do well keeping to VIA chipset 
boards. Their best one's are usually their A series, eg, KT400a. 
The latest stepping, revision, ie, last of the runs with some 
improvements over prior steppings (production runs). But w'ta heck, 
the only way you could do worse is to buy a ready made computer ;)
Then quality is certainly not there, an Linux compatibility is 
suspect also. 
-- 
Tom Brinkman  Corpus Christi, Texas


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