Re: [newbie] Why ISO? was: 9.1 final has been released
On Tuesday 25 March 2003 08:32 pm, Jay R. Camp wrote: The 1st CD is always bootable. Just set your BIOS to look at your CD-ROM first and off you go. It'll pull the installer, some packages, etc. off of there. On a related note, has anyone gotten FTP-install to work? I do it all the time with FreeBSD, Debian, and RedHat but for some reason it never works with Mandrake. And the update step at the end of install often fails to bring up the network. If I hadn't gotten it to work so easily on the other OSs and if I wasn't using totally mainstream 3Com nics, I'd suspect I was doing something wrong. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Why ISO? was: 9.1 final has been released
On Sunday 30 March 2003 23:28, Chris Fox wrote: On Tuesday 25 March 2003 08:32 pm, Jay R. Camp wrote: The 1st CD is always bootable. Just set your BIOS to look at your CD-ROM first and off you go. It'll pull the installer, some packages, etc. off of there. On a related note, has anyone gotten FTP-install to work? I do it all the time with FreeBSD, Debian, and RedHat but for some reason it never works with Mandrake. And the update step at the end of install often fails to bring up the network. If I hadn't gotten it to work so easily on the other OSs and if I wasn't using totally mainstream 3Com nics, I'd suspect I was doing something wrong. I have, a number of times. Starting at Mdk7.2 without any problems. Note I am talking LAN here i.e a local ftp server with the install CD's mounted on them. Never tried it over the internetdon't really feel like either, for a number of reasons but I don't see why it shouldn't work. Mandrake update works just fine in a simular way. Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Why ISO? was: 9.1 final has been released
On Tuesday 25 March 2003 11:51 pm, Joeb wrote: Eric, it is NOT the ISO image that allows booting, it is that included in the ISO is a boot from floppy device. ISO just stands for the International Standards Organization and 9660 is implied as the particular standard, and has NOTHING to do with booting. While the ISO images do allow you to boot from the CD (assuming your computer allows it), the purpose of the ISO images is to keep from having to download all the individual files to some directory somewhere and then installing across a network or worse yet, from installing from the download site across the internet! Basically, the ISO images are direct copies of the CDs so you can duplicate the original. Once the CDs are burned, the ISO images are no longer needed. Most of the problems with burning the ISO images were with the 9.0 images that used 700MB CDs (80 minute). Older CD burners couldn't write them. Mandrake 9.1 went back to the 650MB images because of this (who says they don't listen to users). Joeb On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 20:18:27 -0800 eric huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am very new to linux, and am trying to figure out why ISO images are needed. I searched around, but too many hits... Is the purpose of using an ISO image simply that you can boot from the CD and have it reformat the drive? Shouldn't there be a way to have a boot cd that would then use info from another cd to install? The reason i ask is that i have seen people having issues burning the cd properly from an ISO image... thanks for any insight, huff -- Linux counter number 167806 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Why ISO? was: 9.1 final has been released
I am very new to linux, and am trying to figure out why ISO images are needed. I searched around, but too many hits... Is the purpose of using an ISO image simply that you can boot from the CD and have it reformat the drive? Shouldn't there be a way to have a boot cd that would then use info from another cd to install? The reason i ask is that i have seen people having issues burning the cd properly from an ISO image... thanks for any insight, huff Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Why ISO? was: 9.1 final has been released
The 1st CD is always bootable. Just set your BIOS to look at your CD-ROM first and off you go. It'll pull the installer, some packages, etc. off of there. - Original Message - From: eric huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 11:18 PM Subject: [newbie] Why ISO? was: 9.1 final has been released I am very new to linux, and am trying to figure out why ISO images are needed. I searched around, but too many hits... Is the purpose of using an ISO image simply that you can boot from the CD and have it reformat the drive? Shouldn't there be a way to have a boot cd that would then use info from another cd to install? The reason i ask is that i have seen people having issues burning the cd properly from an ISO image... thanks for any insight, huff Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Why ISO? was: 9.1 final has been released
Eric, While the ISO images do allow you to boot from the CD (assuming your computer allows it), the purpose of the ISO images is to keep from having to download all the individual files to some directory somewhere and then installing across a network or worse yet, from installing from the download site across the internet! Basically, the ISO images are direct copies of the CDs so you can duplicate the original. Once the CDs are burned, the ISO images are no longer needed. Most of the problems with burning the ISO images were with the 9.0 images that used 700MB CDs (80 minute). Older CD burners couldn't write them. Mandrake 9.1 went back to the 650MB images because of this (who says they don't listen to users). Joeb On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 20:18:27 -0800 eric huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am very new to linux, and am trying to figure out why ISO images are needed. I searched around, but too many hits... Is the purpose of using an ISO image simply that you can boot from the CD and have it reformat the drive? Shouldn't there be a way to have a boot cd that would then use info from another cd to install? The reason i ask is that i have seen people having issues burning the cd properly from an ISO image... thanks for any insight, huff Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Why ISO? was: 9.1 final has been released
On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 15:18, eric huff wrote: I am very new to linux, and am trying to figure out why ISO images are needed. I searched around, but too many hits... Is the purpose of using an ISO image simply that you can boot from the CD and have it reformat the drive? Shouldn't there be a way to have a boot cd that would then use info from another cd to install? The reason i ask is that i have seen people having issues burning the cd properly from an ISO image... thanks for any insight, huff ISO images are basically a standard for creating an image of an operating system's bootable disk, or other cd based media that requires extra filesystem information or whatnot. ISO images ARE quite easy and nice to work with - for instance - I can create ISO images of Mac OS System CD's from my workstation - as well as creating ISO images of any Windows OS System CD's - or what have you. Most of the time, you CAN create a boot disk which will then read the installation CD, but overall, it's a very nice convenience to have a bootable CD for your OS - whether it be OS/2, BeOS, Linux, Unix, Solaris, Macintosh - even Windows. -- Wed Mar 26 16:50:00 EST 2003 16:50:00 up 5 days, 3:37, 3 users, load average: 0.13, 0.07, 0.08 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * MDK 9.1 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting machine no:194239 * RH 7.3 * Sales - Service - Support - Tutor -- ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** Living your life is a task so difficult, it has never been attempted before. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
