Re: [newbie] broadband screws up dial up

2003-07-21 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Sunday July 20 2003 01:23 pm, Derek Jennings wrote:
 Agreed that will  set Bill's default route to the dialup
 connection, but I know it is possible to have the default route
 configured for the DSL and to have it switch automatically when
 he uses dial up.

 I just wish I can remember how I did it :-(

 derek

  For the short time I had both DSL and Dialup, IIRC, I had to 
completely disconnect DSL. Unplug the cable from the internal NIC, 
unplug the digital line from the DSL 'modem'. Then use an analog 
phone filter to hook the digital phone line to the dialup modem (an 
external serial 56K). IOW, neither dialup or DSL would work if the 
other was left hooked up at all.
-- 
Tom Brinkman  Corpus Christi, Texas

 On Sunday 20 Jul 2003 6:16 pm, Frankie wrote:
  Try this
 
  in /etc/sysconfig/network
 
  Add this line:
 
  GATEWAYDEV=ppp0
 
  if there is an entry for GATEWAY=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
 
  remove it.
 
 
  Then type:
 
  service network restart
 
  then try kppp again.
 
 
  regards
 
  Franki
  http://htmlfixit.com
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill
  Winegarden
  Sent: Monday, 21 July 2003 12:40 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [newbie] broadband screws up dial up
 
 
  Hi Derek,
  Thanks for the info, however that option is already in
  there. Here are
  the entries in /etc/ppp/options:
 
  lock
  noauth
  noipdefault
  usepeerdns
 
  Maybe they will jog your memory. Perhaps you could check
  yours and see if
  there is a difference.
 
  tia,
  Bill W.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 8:52 AM
  Subject: Re: [newbie] broadband screws up dial up
 
   On Sunday 20 Jul 2003 3:46 pm, Bill Winegarden wrote:
Hi,
New problem to consider. Mandrake 9.1. Default
 
  installation. I
 
originally set up my dial up connection (on a supported
 
  winmodem) and I
  was
 
able to retrieve email and surf, no problem. Then my son
 
  set up a
  broadband
 
connection to his DSL line. Wow, what a difference!
This morning I awoke and his DSL connection has
 
  changed somehow so I
 
just disconnected the cable and used KPPP for my dialup.
The application will dial up my provider and connect
 
  but email and
  web
 
browsers won't connect to this connection now. What do I
 
  have to do to
  get
 
my dial up connectivity back?
   
tia,
Bill W.
  
   I know I have been through this one because my laptop
 
  happily switches the
 
   default route between dialup and cable, but I cannot quite
 
  remember what I
 
   did.
  
   Try putting the option
   noipdefault
   in /etc/ppp/options
  
  
   derek
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RE: [newbie] broadband screws up dial up

2003-07-20 Thread Frankie
Try this

in /etc/sysconfig/network

Add this line:

GATEWAYDEV=ppp0

if there is an entry for GATEWAY=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx

remove it.


Then type:

service network restart

then try kppp again.


regards

Franki
http://htmlfixit.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill
Winegarden
Sent: Monday, 21 July 2003 12:40 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] broadband screws up dial up


Hi Derek,
Thanks for the info, however that option is already in
there. Here are
the entries in /etc/ppp/options:

lock
noauth
noipdefault
usepeerdns

Maybe they will jog your memory. Perhaps you could check
yours and see if
there is a difference.

tia,
Bill W.

- Original Message -
From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] broadband screws up dial up


 On Sunday 20 Jul 2003 3:46 pm, Bill Winegarden wrote:
  Hi,
  New problem to consider. Mandrake 9.1. Default
installation. I
  originally set up my dial up connection (on a supported
winmodem) and I
was
  able to retrieve email and surf, no problem. Then my son
set up a
broadband
  connection to his DSL line. Wow, what a difference!
  This morning I awoke and his DSL connection has
changed somehow so I
  just disconnected the cable and used KPPP for my dialup.
  The application will dial up my provider and connect
but email and
web
  browsers won't connect to this connection now. What do I
have to do to
get
  my dial up connectivity back?
 
  tia,
  Bill W.

 I know I have been through this one because my laptop
happily switches the
 default route between dialup and cable, but I cannot quite
remember what I
 did.

 Try putting the option
 noipdefault
 in /etc/ppp/options


 derek
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 --
 www.jennings.homelinux.net










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Re: [newbie] broadband screws up dial up

2003-07-20 Thread Derek Jennings
Agreed that will  set Bill's default route to the dialup connection, but I 
know it is possible to have the default route configured for the DSL and to 
have it switch automatically when he uses dial up.

I just wish I can remember how I did it :-(

derek


On Sunday 20 Jul 2003 6:16 pm, Frankie wrote:
 Try this

 in /etc/sysconfig/network

 Add this line:

 GATEWAYDEV=ppp0

 if there is an entry for GATEWAY=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx

 remove it.


 Then type:

 service network restart

 then try kppp again.


 regards

 Franki
 http://htmlfixit.com

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill
 Winegarden
 Sent: Monday, 21 July 2003 12:40 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] broadband screws up dial up


 Hi Derek,
 Thanks for the info, however that option is already in
 there. Here are
 the entries in /etc/ppp/options:

 lock
 noauth
 noipdefault
 usepeerdns

 Maybe they will jog your memory. Perhaps you could check
 yours and see if
 there is a difference.

 tia,
 Bill W.

 - Original Message -
 From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 8:52 AM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] broadband screws up dial up

  On Sunday 20 Jul 2003 3:46 pm, Bill Winegarden wrote:
   Hi,
   New problem to consider. Mandrake 9.1. Default

 installation. I

   originally set up my dial up connection (on a supported

 winmodem) and I
 was

   able to retrieve email and surf, no problem. Then my son

 set up a
 broadband

   connection to his DSL line. Wow, what a difference!
   This morning I awoke and his DSL connection has

 changed somehow so I

   just disconnected the cable and used KPPP for my dialup.
   The application will dial up my provider and connect

 but email and
 web

   browsers won't connect to this connection now. What do I

 have to do to
 get

   my dial up connectivity back?
  
   tia,
   Bill W.
 
  I know I have been through this one because my laptop

 happily switches the

  default route between dialup and cable, but I cannot quite

 remember what I

  did.
 
  Try putting the option
  noipdefault
  in /etc/ppp/options
 
 
  derek
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  --
  www.jennings.homelinux.net

 
 
 

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Re: [newbie] broadband screws up dial up

2003-07-20 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2003-07-21 at 00:46, Bill Winegarden wrote:
 Hi,
 New problem to consider. Mandrake 9.1. Default installation. I
 originally set up my dial up connection (on a supported winmodem) and I was
 able to retrieve email and surf, no problem. Then my son set up a broadband
 connection to his DSL line. Wow, what a difference!
 This morning I awoke and his DSL connection has changed somehow so I
 just disconnected the cable and used KPPP for my dialup.
 The application will dial up my provider and connect but email and web
 browsers won't connect to this connection now. What do I have to do to get
 my dial up connectivity back?
 
 tia,
 Bill W.

It would appear that the broadband is using DHCP and your system is
still thinking it's on DHCP and not resolving to the DNS servers your
ISP uses - and maybe not recognising that the gateway has changed...

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Re: [newbie] broadband screws up dial up

2003-07-20 Thread JoeHill
On 21 Jul 2003 07:31:36 +1000
Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 It would appear that the broadband is using DHCP and your system is
 still thinking it's on DHCP and not resolving to the DNS servers your
 ISP uses - and maybe not recognising that the gateway has changed...

That's what I was just going to say...damn!

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Registered Linux user #282046
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Murphy was an optimist.

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Re: [newbie] broadband screws up dial up

2003-07-20 Thread Bill Winegarden
Hi all,
Thanks for the thoughts. It sounds pretty reasonable. I am wondering, though, 
that there should be an easy 'back and forth' between DSL and dial up without 
having to re-write a config file every time I want one or the other.
Anybody have a similar situation that is working? I am running this on a Dell 
laptop but I don't think that has any bearing.

tia,
Bill W.



 It would appear that the broadband is using DHCP and your system is
 still thinking it's on DHCP and not resolving to the DNS servers your
 ISP uses - and maybe not recognising that the gateway has changed...


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Re: [newbie] broadband screws up dial up

2003-07-20 Thread ed tharp
On Sun, 2003-07-20 at 16:44, Bill Winegarden wrote:
 Hi all,
   Thanks for the thoughts. It sounds pretty reasonable. I am wondering, though, 
 that there should be an easy 'back and forth' between DSL and dial up without 
 having to re-write a config file every time I want one or the other.
   Anybody have a similar situation that is working? I am running this on a Dell 
 laptop but I don't think that has any bearing.
 
 tia,
 Bill W.
 
 
 
  It would appear that the broadband is using DHCP and your system is
  still thinking it's on DHCP and not resolving to the DNS servers your
  ISP uses - and maybe not recognising that the gateway has changed...
 
 
 
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if the broad band is the only connection on the lan just bring down the
lan, (ifdown eth0) and dial up. ? 


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