Re: [newbie] usb external modems

2002-11-09 Thread John Richard Smith
L.V.Gandhi wrote:


On Friday 08 Nov 2002 1:02 PM, John Richard Smith wrote:
 

L.V.Gandhi wrote:
   

Whether all USB external modems work properly in Linux. Whether there is
also winmodem?
 

I tired a few USB modems which were sold to me as hardware
controlled, I returned them, none of the USB dialup modems
are hardware controlled they all need software.TI don't think
the situation has changed.

In any case what's wrong with a nice serial port hardware
controlled  dialup modem. You don't need to be plugging
modems in and out all the time.
   

I am thinking of going for pIV. Most MBs have only one serial port. I need 
that serial port for my handheld connection. Hence I am thinking of USB 
modems. Further whether 56Kbps USB modem will be better than its serial 
counterpart?

 

OK, that's a good reason, do you have a parallel port spare, as many
hardware controlled modems can plug in both.

As for USB , in my experience , admitedly that is limited , all the hype
about faster speed from usb ports is just that, hype, it's just that so
much is going USB , one cannot be out of it.

For instance, I have a usb printer that can also be parallel port, and just
for a simple test on my own behalf , I sent the same print job on the same
computer via both ports to that printer , and I could not detect any
difference at all. I wonder what if anything is other people's experiences.

I believe , by all means correct me if I'm wrong, that there isn't in 
everyday
ordinary user terms much if any difference between serial, parallel,and usb
the only exception in my limited experience is scsi devices which are
better at handling data. So right now I doubt if you would notice any
difference between a usb modem, and any other connection type. Of
course I don't have ADSL, maybe things a different there.

What are other peoples experiences , I for one would be interested.

John


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Re: [newbie] usb external modems

2002-11-09 Thread Paul
In reply to John's mail, d.d. Sat, 09 Nov 2002 10:22:03 +:

As for USB , in my experience , admitedly that is limited , all the hype
about faster speed from usb ports is just that, hype, it's just that so
much is going USB , one cannot be out of it.

I believe , by all means correct me if I'm wrong, that there isn't in 
everyday
ordinary user terms much if any difference between serial, parallel,and usb
the only exception in my limited experience is scsi devices which are
better at handling data.

The point is that a chain is as strong as its weakest link. When you hook up
a modem that can, at best, throughput 10Kb/sec, and the connect from PC to
that modem is capable of 3Mb/sec, your will still face 10Kb/sec. Sheesh, is
that all the fast bus can do?  No. It is the phone line, the internals of
the modem and what not.
Same thing with printers. No matter how fast the bus to the printer is, the
printer will still need its time to process and produce the page that it
receives.

My cable modem can do 500Kb/sec and sometimes I download things at 20Kb/sec.
Not the modem's fault. It is what is in between the modem and the file I am
getting.

Paul

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Re: [newbie] usb external modems

2002-11-08 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2002-11-08 at 18:32, John Richard Smith wrote:
 L.V.Gandhi wrote:
 
 Whether all usb external modems work properly in Linux. Whether there is also 
 winmodem?
 
 I tired a few usb modems which were sold to me as hardware
 controlled, I returned them, none of the usb dialup modems
 are hardware controlled they all need software.TI don't think
 the situation has changed.
 
 In any case what's wrong with a nice serial port hardware
 controlled  dialup modem. You don't need to be plugging
 modems in and out all the time.
 
 John
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If you get an internal HCF/HSF modem (PCI) - they'll have a Rockwell
chipset - and even though they're WinModems, you can get the drivers for
them quite easily. And they're not all that hard to configure. External
modems are nice, but you DO have to make sure you can get drivers for
them. USR's are definately the best and have been recommended for *NIX
systems for quite a long time (more than 10 years). Otherwise, you can
pick up a cheap but nice PCI modem just about anywhere - and as long as
the chipset meets the requirements just mentioned, y'all should be good
to go in no time at all.

Stephen
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[newbie] usb external modems

2002-11-07 Thread L.V.Gandhi
Whether all usb external modems work properly in Linux. Whether there is also 
winmodem?

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Re: [newbie] usb external modems

2002-11-07 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2002-11-08 at 12:50, L.V.Gandhi wrote:
 Whether all usb external modems work properly in Linux. Whether there is also 
 winmodem?
 
I've gotten several WinModems to work under linux - it's just a matter
of finding out the chipset and finding the proper source code to compile
(which can be a puzzling game in itself) - but overall, there is:
http://www.linmodems.org
...which is a great help for getting WinModems to be LinModems...
(Same basic idea applies to USB modems - because USB modems can still be
WinModems - which means they are dependent upon the OS to make them
work!)

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Re: [newbie] usb external modems

2002-11-07 Thread John Richard Smith
L.V.Gandhi wrote:


Whether all usb external modems work properly in Linux. Whether there is also 
winmodem?
 

I tired a few usb modems which were sold to me as hardware
controlled, I returned them, none of the usb dialup modems
are hardware controlled they all need software.TI don't think
the situation has changed.

In any case what's wrong with a nice serial port hardware
controlled  dialup modem. You don't need to be plugging
modems in and out all the time.

John

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