[newbie] very scary stuff. Your rights ARE vanishing - being assasinated...

2002-04-05 Thread john rigby

Hello folks,

This is not off-topic! This is a probable reason that we are all having more
and more email problems.

One of my fears about the development of the fabulous tool we call the
Internet is the prediction made by Kilneth nearly a decade ago:  Without
positive loop feedback it can rapidly become a Cyberbog.  It is going that
way...
please read this a.s.a.p.
http://www.talkbiz.com/assassin.html
Everything needs a  positive feedback loop, from teaching children good
behaviour, to the Sydney Opera House - a project which had no control by
feedback.
It was projected to cost $1-1.5 Million Dollars.
Now we all know that such things will over-run. but it finished up
costing the community $105 MILLION a HUNDRED times as much!
Because there was no feedback control - it had no limits. It was funded by a
Lottery!  Thus, there was no upper limit on what could be spent. It was
insane - worse, it finished up being project-managed by a committee and it
ended up useless as a true Opera House.


 Cheers?

John





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[OT] Re: [newbie] very scary stuff. Your rights ARE vanishing - being assasinated...

2002-04-05 Thread Robin Turner

On Saturday 06 April 2002 00:22, john rigby wrote:
 Hello folks,

 This is not off-topic! This is a probable reason that we are all having
 more and more email problems.

Well strictly speaking it _is_ off topic. Off topic doesn't mean useless or 
completely irrelevant (obviously that shouldn't be posted at all); it means 
anything which the poster thinks will be of interest to at least some 
members, but is unrelated, or only tenously related to the topic of the list.

AFAIK, the email problems we've been having are not related to filters (I've 
had some, and I'm not with a commercial ISP or free webmail service).

And now for my own off-topic comment ...
 One of my fears about the development of the fabulous tool we call the
 Internet is the prediction made by Kilneth nearly a decade ago:  Without
 positive loop feedback it can rapidly become a Cyberbog.  It is going that
 way...
 please read this a.s.a.p.
 http://www.talkbiz.com/assassin.html
 Everything needs a  positive feedback loop, from teaching children good
 behaviour, to the Sydney Opera House - a project which had no control by
 feedback.

Call me a pedant, but what you seem to advocating is not a positive feedback 
loop, but a negative one.  Positive feedback is what happens when part of the 
output is fed back as input, so the signal, motion or behaviour increases.  
Unless you're a rock guitarist, it's generally a bad thing.

Sir Robin



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