RE: [newbie] Intel inside Idiot outside

2001-04-10 Thread Daryl Johnson

There are all sorts of manuals and books that will claim to take you to the
state of being a linux guru.  In my experience there is no one source.

The first purchase I made after going the unix route (NetBSD) was Essential
System Administration by Aileen Frisch.  It's pretty good.  I also got hold
of the BSD 4.4 User's Reference manual and System Administrator's manual.

The FAQs are also worth reading for linux as well as the packages that you
may install. (/usr/share/doc  ;o)   ) I found the FAQs that came with
various Amiga distributions both informative as well as non-machine
specific.

The point is I think you will have to attempt several different sources -
also, hopefully, have access to someone who knows the subject  sigh
sounds hard doesn't it?

It's rewarding though and does start to make sense after a while.

Good luck

Daryl Johnson
Proplan Associates



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 hi there

 Im looking for documentation for linux for an idiot. Iv checked a bunch of
 sites but they all seem to be different.
 How to configure the kernel A to Z.
 In that matter everything from A-Z
 Iv been to www.Mandrakecampus.com
 Iv been everywhere.
 If anybody knows where I can download a book or something like that please
 help out.








Re: [newbie] Intel inside Idiot outside

2001-04-10 Thread CB

"Mcintosh, Duncan" wrote:

 Im looking for documentation for linux for an idiot. Iv checked a bunch of
 sites but they all seem to be different.
 How to configure the kernel A to Z.

There is a help key in many of the screens when you do "make
menuconfig".  Do you need more information than what's provided?  Are
you looking for theory?  I don't know that there is one concise document
or series of documents that go into that detail.
-- 
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RE: [newbie] Intel inside Idiot outside

2001-04-10 Thread Mcintosh, Duncan

Thanks todd.
Yeah I'v been through all that.
I'm looking for something like support books or docs online. Something like
the study guides for WINDOZE MCSE.

Cheers
Mac


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 "Mcintosh, Duncan" wrote:
 
  Im looking for documentation for linux for an idiot. Iv checked a bunch
 of
  sites but they all seem to be different.
  How to configure the kernel A to Z.
 
 There is a help key in many of the screens when you do "make
 menuconfig".  Do you need more information than what's provided?  Are
 you looking for theory?  I don't know that there is one concise document
 or series of documents that go into that detail.
 -- 
 Blue skies... Todd
 | Get a bigger hammer!   |  Sometimes you get what you want.  |
 | http://www.mrball.net  |  Sometimes you get experience. |
 | http://faq.mrball.net  | --unknown origin   |




RE: [newbie] Intel inside Idiot outside

2001-04-10 Thread Mcintosh, Duncan

Thanks Daryl
Thats what I'm doing at the moment. Lots of howto, mini howto's, and
scratching head.
Yes and I'm lucky as a friend who is a UNIX engineer introduced me to the
real world of computing. However there is no challenge if he show me how
everything works.
Know of any good books for newbies?

Cheers 

Mac


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 De:   Daryl Johnson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Date: mardi 10 avril 2001 16:15
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 Objet:RE: [newbie] Intel inside Idiot outside
 
 There are all sorts of manuals and books that will claim to take you to
 the
 state of being a linux guru.  In my experience there is no one source.
 
 The first purchase I made after going the unix route (NetBSD) was
 Essential
 System Administration by Aileen Frisch.  It's pretty good.  I also got
 hold
 of the BSD 4.4 User's Reference manual and System Administrator's manual.
 
 The FAQs are also worth reading for linux as well as the packages that you
 may install. (/usr/share/doc  ;o)   ) I found the FAQs that came with
 various Amiga distributions both informative as well as non-machine
 specific.
 
 The point is I think you will have to attempt several different sources -
 also, hopefully, have access to someone who knows the subject  sigh
 sounds hard doesn't it?
 
 It's rewarding though and does start to make sense after a while.
 
 Good luck
 
 Daryl Johnson
 Proplan Associates
 
 
 
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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mcintosh, Duncan
  Sent: 10 April 2001 14:14
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
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  hi there
 
  Im looking for documentation for linux for an idiot. Iv checked a bunch
 of
  sites but they all seem to be different.
  How to configure the kernel A to Z.
  In that matter everything from A-Z
  Iv been to www.Mandrakecampus.com
  Iv been everywhere.
  If anybody knows where I can download a book or something like that
 please
  help out.
 
 
 
 




Re: [newbie] Intel inside Idiot outside

2001-04-10 Thread Tim Holmes

I've found that O'Reilly is a HUGE source help as well.  I'd suggested
to most anyone the "Linux in a Nutshell" book.  I believe it's in it's
3rd edition right now.  It goes through and covers a lot of the commands
and then gives examples for them.  Which I know a lot of people find
helpful.

Also, look for Linux User Groups, (LUG) in your area.  I know the one
here does Install Fests.  Where you can bring in a machine, and people
provide Linux distros, as well as help you install Linux on your
machine.  LUG's also have mailing lists like this one.  Where you can
email people in your area and possibly set up meetings with some of them
to help you out.  I know quite a few people that truly benefit from the
LUG's in their area.  I know most universities have one of their own.
There are 2 universities and one community college in my area, all 3
have LUGs and hold monthly meetings about various topics.  That's a HUGE
source of learning right there.

As for online, start with www.mandrakesoft.com/  From there they have
links to tons of other Mandrake sites like www.mandrakeuser.org and
others.  Most providing searchable documentation, mailing lists, and
articles about various Linux topics.  I've found them very helpful and
they have helped me start the transition from being a newbie to an
"psuedo-expert." :0)

You could also find books on CD that might be more helpful and you can
search the CD for information.

Hope that helps!
tdh


T. Holmes
Unixtechs.org
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* Mcintosh, Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010410 09:13]:
| hi there
| 
| Im looking for documentation for linux for an idiot. Iv checked a bunch of
| sites but they all seem to be different.
| How to configure the kernel A to Z.
| In that matter everything from A-Z
| Iv been to www.Mandrakecampus.com
| Iv been everywhere.
| If anybody knows where I can download a book or something like that please
| help out.