Re: [newbie] command prompt
The same sort of stuff that happens when you surf the 'Net as "root." You expose your system to lots of "exploits" that are normally not a serious problem for a "non-privileged" user (someone OTHER than "root.") Personally, I've never had anything bad happen to my Linux system (at work) since I never surf as "root." John - Original Message - From: Bert Bullough [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 18, 1999 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] command prompt what kind of bad things? [clip] I think you missed what they really wanted, they just wanted runlevel 3 tobe default. and actualy theres nothing wrong with useing rungetty to start an autologin as your user (you do it as root, and you deserve all the bad things that are bound to happen)
Re: [newbie] command prompt
4 was a spare one, for future use Axalon wrote: On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Jo wrote: Hi, Wouldn't it be possible to change that 3 to a 2 or a 1? Then, he wouldn't need to give a password... Or am I totally missing something? Jo The difference between 3 and 2, 3 has nfs 2 does not. Yes you could set the default runlevel to 1 this however isn't general usefull, only get one login, two if you background startx or something. If your looking for a runlevel to customize my choice would be 2 or 4 0 = halt 1 = single 2 = no nfs 3 = nfs 4 = umm you know i forgot, does this one even have a real purpose? 5 = XDM 6 = reboot Ken Wilson wrote: Are you talking about the logon screen with that cute ASCII graphic of Tux? If so, no, this would be the minimum screen. One of the security features of Linux is you 'must' log on and be authenticated. If you are talking about coming up with an X logon screen just edit the 'inittab' file line that reads "id:5:initdefault" to read 3 instead of 5. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bert Bullough Sent: Friday, July 16, 1999 9:33 AM To: Mandrake Subject: [newbie] command prompt Hello. By default when I start Mandrake 6.0 it goes straight to the cute little logon manager. Is there a way to change this so that it will go straight to a command prompt?
Re: [newbie] command prompt
Hi Civileme, You are right of course and I wasn't considering to start doing this. But I was curious just about how far Linux would be configurable. Pretty far apparently. Thanks for the insight. Greetings, Jo Civileme wrote: YEs, it would be possible to set that to any of those numbers. IMHO, 2 and 1 are self-defeating, and nearly as bad as 0 or 6. Logins and passwords and privileged and non-privileged users are important. Has no friend ever harmed your computer by accident? Wouldn't a computer with unknown passwords make a nice boat anchor for a burgular? More to the point, do you wonder why there is so little anti-virus software for Linux, and why most of it running under Linux is set to check for viruses that might affect other types of systems in the same network? All part of some careful and thoughtful planning going back to or before Ken Thompson and Dennis Ritchie. The security features are there for you, and do have a minor cost, in terms of logins and privileges. Today, I had difficulty downloading a driver file from a site. It insisted I register first, which I did repeatedly, but it kept looping. I noticed the pages were labeled with .asp extensions, so I decided to try a new toy I borrowed from the good folks at eEye Digital Security Team. Result: I downloaded the driver, cleaned up the logs and got out without leaving behind any destruction or in fact any evidence I was there. www.eeye.org and www.insecure.org have the relevant links. Linux running Apache doesn't have these sorts of problems, unless there are some of the older unprotected front-page extensions running on Apache. Even if exploits are found, they are patched within a matter of hours in most cases. I use Linux for two reasons. One is that, except in a MAJOR release, software does what it claims, and will do what it claims pretty soon even after a major revision, and the other is that I don't care to have others who have access to my computer messing up my configuration. An init default runlevel of 2 or 1 would defeat that. Michael Moore Jo wrote: Hi, Wouldn't it be possible to change that 3 to a 2 or a 1? Then, he wouldn't need to give a password... Or am I totally missing something? Jo Ken Wilson wrote: Are you talking about the logon screen with that cute ASCII graphic of Tux? If so, no, this would be the minimum screen. One of the security features of Linux is you 'must' log on and be authenticated. If you are talking about coming up with an X logon screen just edit the 'inittab' file line that reads "id:5:initdefault" to read 3 instead of 5. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bert Bullough Sent: Friday, July 16, 1999 9:33 AM To: Mandrake Subject: [newbie] command prompt Hello. By default when I start Mandrake 6.0 it goes straight to the cute little logon manager. Is there a way to change this so that it will go straight to a command prompt? -- Civileme Say: "Man who read the fine material available make wiser decisions, much wiser after some tinkering and experience."
Re: [newbie] command prompt
On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, you wrote: Hello. By default when I start Mandrake 6.0 it goes straight to the cute little logon manager. Is there a way to change this so that it will go straight to a command prompt? you are SUPPOSED tolog in so it knows who you are..it's a security thing required because it's a multiuser OS.
Re: [newbie] command prompt
Sorry I wasn't clear enough, I meant the login screen for X. I realize I need to login, I just wanted to start at command prompt instead of X. Already got the answer though. Lloyd Osten wrote: On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, you wrote: Hello. By default when I start Mandrake 6.0 it goes straight to the cute little logon manager. Is there a way to change this so that it will go straight to a command prompt? you are SUPPOSED tolog in so it knows who you are..it's a security thing required because it's a multiuser OS.
RE: [newbie] command prompt
Sure. Login as root, and edit /etc/inittab. About 17 lines down, is a line: id:5:initdefault Change the 5 to a 3, and you will now boot to the init level 3, which is the command prompt. Take care. Bill -Original Message- From: Bert Bullough [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 16, 1999 9:33 AM To: Mandrake Subject: [newbie] command prompt Hello. By default when I start Mandrake 6.0 it goes straight to the cute little logon manager. Is there a way to change this so that it will go straight to a command prompt?
RE: [newbie] command prompt
Are you talking about the logon screen with that cute ASCII graphic of Tux? If so, no, this would be the minimum screen. One of the security features of Linux is you 'must' log on and be authenticated. If you are talking about coming up with an X logon screen just edit the 'inittab' file line that reads "id:5:initdefault" to read 3 instead of 5. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bert Bullough Sent: Friday, July 16, 1999 9:33 AM To: Mandrake Subject: [newbie] command prompt Hello. By default when I start Mandrake 6.0 it goes straight to the cute little logon manager. Is there a way to change this so that it will go straight to a command prompt?
Re: [newbie] command prompt
Go to a command line shell. Type "linuxconf". Scroll down until you see "Boot Mode". You can choose text or graphical. Bert Bullough wrote: Hello. By default when I start Mandrake 6.0 it goes straight to the cute little logon manager. Is there a way to change this so that it will go straight to a command prompt?
Re: [newbie] command prompt
Hi, Wouldn't it be possible to change that 3 to a 2 or a 1? Then, he wouldn't need to give a password... Or am I totally missing something? Jo Ken Wilson wrote: Are you talking about the logon screen with that cute ASCII graphic of Tux? If so, no, this would be the minimum screen. One of the security features of Linux is you 'must' log on and be authenticated. If you are talking about coming up with an X logon screen just edit the 'inittab' file line that reads "id:5:initdefault" to read 3 instead of 5. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bert Bullough Sent: Friday, July 16, 1999 9:33 AM To: Mandrake Subject: [newbie] command prompt Hello. By default when I start Mandrake 6.0 it goes straight to the cute little logon manager. Is there a way to change this so that it will go straight to a command prompt?
Re: [newbie] command prompt
On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Jo wrote: Hi, Wouldn't it be possible to change that 3 to a 2 or a 1? Then, he wouldn't need to give a password... Or am I totally missing something? Jo The difference between 3 and 2, 3 has nfs 2 does not. Yes you could set the default runlevel to 1 this however isn't general usefull, only get one login, two if you background startx or something. If your looking for a runlevel to customize my choice would be 2 or 4 0 = halt 1 = single 2 = no nfs 3 = nfs 4 = umm you know i forgot, does this one even have a real purpose? 5 = XDM 6 = reboot Ken Wilson wrote: Are you talking about the logon screen with that cute ASCII graphic of Tux? If so, no, this would be the minimum screen. One of the security features of Linux is you 'must' log on and be authenticated. If you are talking about coming up with an X logon screen just edit the 'inittab' file line that reads "id:5:initdefault" to read 3 instead of 5. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bert Bullough Sent: Friday, July 16, 1999 9:33 AM To: Mandrake Subject: [newbie] command prompt Hello. By default when I start Mandrake 6.0 it goes straight to the cute little logon manager. Is there a way to change this so that it will go straight to a command prompt?
Re: [newbie] command prompt
Possibly...but what's the use in running Linux if you're just going to run it in Single-User modeI don't even think you'll be allowed VTs 2+! John - Original Message - From: Jo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 16, 1999 6:23 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] command prompt Hi, Wouldn't it be possible to change that 3 to a 2 or a 1? Then, he wouldn't need to give a password... Or am I totally missing something?
