RE: [newbie] kmail configuration or list?
No, it's not just you. Same happens here. I have to cut paste the newbie address into the To... box every time. Nick -Original Message- From: bascule [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 May 2001 12:46 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] kmail configuration or list? i have just noticed that when i choose 'reply...' from the right click menu to a message the recipient is not the list but the original sender - every time ! is the list malfunctioning by not inserting the 'reply to' header in the posts back to list subscribers? or do i have my kmail configured wrong,i have looked for some relevant setting but nothing seems to apply, it does seem that the headers in these list posts should have 'Reply-To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]' in them but they do not, of course this explains why none of my recent posts have made it on the list and why some folk have had direct mails, my fault for not reading the recipient headers on my posts! but i would like to know if it's just me or if this is a list problem (it applies to 'expert' too but other lists are fine) bascule
Re: [newbie] kmail configuration or list?
If you choose Reply All it will address it to the original sender and to the list. On Thursday 24 May 2001 08:46, bascule wrote: i have just noticed that when i choose 'reply...' from the right click menu to a message the recipient is not the list but the original sender - every time ! is the list malfunctioning by not inserting the 'reply to' header in the posts back to list subscribers? or do i have my kmail configured wrong,i have looked for some relevant setting but nothing seems to apply, it does seem that the headers in these list posts should have 'Reply-To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]' in them but they do not, of course this explains why none of my recent posts have made it on the list and why some folk have had direct mails, my fault for not reading the recipient headers on my posts! but i would like to know if it's just me or if this is a list problem (it applies to 'expert' too but other lists are fine) bascule
Re: [newbie] kmail configuration or list?
I experience the same problem. My workaround: use reply-all, which will then show both the list and the personal email addresses, then remove the personal address and leave only the list address. Dave On Thursday 24 May 2001 06:46, thus spake bascule: i have just noticed that when i choose 'reply...' from the right click menu to a message the recipient is not the list but the original sender - every time ! is the list malfunctioning by not inserting the 'reply to' header in the posts back to list subscribers? or do i have my kmail configured wrong,i have looked for some relevant setting but nothing seems to apply, it does seem that the headers in these list posts should have 'Reply-To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]' in them but they do not, of course this explains why none of my recent posts have made it on the list and why some folk have had direct mails, my fault for not reading the recipient headers on my posts! but i would like to know if it's just me or if this is a list problem (it applies to 'expert' too but other lists are fine) bascule -- Nihil tam munitum quod non expugnari pecuna possit. - Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 B.C.
Re: [newbie] kmail configuration or list?
bascule i have just noticed that when i choose 'reply...' from the
bascule right click menu to a message the recipient is not the list but
bascule the original sender - every time !
The list is working *as it should*. If kmail doesn't allow you to reply to
all as well as reply to sender, it's what is broken, not the mailing
list. A short mail header tutorial follows.
There are several headers that typically contain email addresses: 'to:',
'from:', 'cc:', 'bcc:', and 'reply-to:'. 'bcc:' should get stripped by the
sender's mail transport agent, so it doesn't figure in anything below. If
you do the equivalent of reply to sender, the mail user agent should
compose a message with a 'to:' field that consists of the email address in
the original 'reply-to:' field. If the original contained no 'reply-to:'
field, it should use the email address found in the 'from:' field (which
must exist - your mail transport agent will add one if you don't). If you
do the equivalent of reply to all, the mail user agent will compose a
message with the 'to:' field set as in the reply to sender case and a
'cc:' field that contains the remaining email addresses ('cc:' and 'from:'
if it differs from 'reply-to:' and wasn't used to format the 'to:' field).
Example 1. If I send a message to you with these headers:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: bascule [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Skip Montanaro)
and you execute reply to sender, you should generate a response containing
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Skip Montanaro)
If you execute reply to all, you should generate a response containing
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Skip Montanaro)
Cc: bascule [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(unless your mail user agent has some not me to setting enabled).
Example 2: If I send a message to you with these headers:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: bascule [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and you execute reply to sender, you should generate a response to Harry
Potter's email address at Hogwarts School of Wizards. He, of course, won't
know who the hell you are, but that's between you and him.
Many mailing list managers support reply-to munging. If they are set to
force replies to go to the list, they replace any 'reply-to:' headers in the
message with a 'reply-to:' that points back to the list. Many people
naively think that is a good thing. Usually, these people are any or all of
* relatively new to the net
* unacquainted with their mail user agent and don't know how to invoke
the reply to all command or use a broken mail user agent that
doesn't have such a command
* have never accidentally sent a steamy or flame-ridden reply to a large
mailing list full of people they don't know *very well* that was
intended to go to just the sender
Reply-to munging is almost always the wrong setting for a mailing list.
The correct way to do things -- certainly in this case -- is the way this
list works. Leave 'reply-to:' alone and trust people to figure out how to
use the tools they have at their disposal. If you have a very small list of
people who are very tight with one another (perhaps the main characters in
The Big Chill), then maybe it's okay to munge 'reply-to:', but only if
everyone agrees.
--
Skip Montanaro ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
(847)971-7098
Re: [newbie] kmail configuration or list?
On Thursday 24 May 2001 09:03, I was honoured by a missive from Clarkson, Nick that said : No, it's not just you. Same happens here. I have to cut paste the newbie address into the To... box every time. Workaround: Reply to All, which puts both adresses, sender and list, in the To: box. Cheers, Ron the Frog, on the banks of the Paraguay River. -- Avoid the Gates of Hell ! Run Linux. --- http://personales.conexion.com.py/~rolgiati ---
Re: [newbie] kmail configuration or list?
On Thu, 24 May 2001 09:21:48 John Morine wrote: If you choose Reply All it will address it to the original sender and to the list. Which explains why I get two copies of many messages. Please don't do this! The mail server should be re-configured to put the listserver address in the from field - see, for example, the Topica lists. Regards, Irv On Thursday 24 May 2001 08:46, bascule wrote: i have just noticed that when i choose 'reply...' from the right click menu to a message the recipient is not the list but the original sender - every time ! is the list malfunctioning by not inserting the 'reply to' header in the posts back to list subscribers? or do i have my kmail configured wrong,i have looked for some relevant setting but nothing seems to apply, it does seem that the headers in these list posts should have 'Reply-To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]' in them but they do not, of course this explains why none of my recent posts have made it on the list and why some folk have had direct mails, my fault for not reading the recipient headers on my posts! but i would like to know if it's just me or if this is a list problem (it applies to 'expert' too but other lists are fine) bascule
Re: [newbie] kmail configuration or list?
On Thursday 24 May 2001 11:28, you wrote: bascule i have just noticed that when i choose 'reply...' from the bascule right click menu to a message the recipient is not the list but bascule the original sender - every time ! You can always use filter rules to make sure you always reply (only) to the list, so that if To or Cc contains [EMAIL PROTECTED], set reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Poogle
Re: [newbie] kmail configuration or list?
I had to do the same thing but worse. I always had to type it. HAD, because thanks to bascule and his complaint about this I decided to do something. I added the newbie address to the Addressbook in KMail. Now when I reply to someone the Original sender appears on the line then I hit the botton with the periods ... next to the To space and click on the newbie address. That's it. No need to type or cut and paste. :) TezcatlipocA On Thursday 24 May 2001 06:03, you wrote: No, it's not just you. Same happens here. I have to cut paste the newbie address into the To... box every time. Nick -Original Message- From: bascule [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 May 2001 12:46 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] kmail configuration or list? i have just noticed that when i choose 'reply...' from the right click menu to a message the recipient is not the list but the original sender - every time ! is the list malfunctioning by not inserting the 'reply to' header in the posts back to list subscribers? or do i have my kmail configured wrong,i have looked for some relevant setting but nothing seems to apply, it does seem that the headers in these list posts should have 'Reply-To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]' in them but they do not, of course this explains why none of my recent posts have made it on the list and why some folk have had direct mails, my fault for not reading the recipient headers on my posts! but i would like to know if it's just me or if this is a list problem (it applies to 'expert' too but other lists are fine) bascule
Re: [newbie] kmail configuration or list?
irvm The mail server should be re-configured to put the listserver irvm address in the from field - see, for example, the Topica lists. No it shouldn't. See my previous message. -- Skip Montanaro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (847)971-7098
Re: [newbie] kmail configuration or list?
On Thursday 24 May 2001 04:55 pm, you wrote: irvm The mail server should be re-configured to put the listserver irvm address in the from field - see, for example, the Topica lists. No it shouldn't. See my previous message. It used to be that way, click on an old message from December..., see. Don't know why it isn't now. But if you make a rule to set the reply to the list, then it will appear there when you click the reply button. -s
Re: [newbie] kmail configuration or list?
I made a rule that states if the To or CC says newbie or the subject contains newbie, to set the reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and transfer to mdknubylist (my folder for the list). You have to put the set reply to first. Don't know why, but if it's second, it'll get transferred but not set the reply. However if set reply to is first it will set it and transfer it too. Now just click the button to reply. -s On Thursday 24 May 2001 04:51 pm, you wrote: I had to do the same thing but worse. I always had to type it. HAD, because thanks to bascule and his complaint about this I decided to do something. I added the newbie address to the Addressbook in KMail. Now when I reply to someone the Original sender appears on the line then I hit the botton with the periods ... next to the To space and click on the newbie address. That's it. No need to type or cut and paste. :) TezcatlipocA On Thursday 24 May 2001 06:03, you wrote: No, it's not just you. Same happens here. I have to cut paste the newbie address into the To... box every time. Nick -Original Message- From: bascule [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 May 2001 12:46 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] kmail configuration or list? i have just noticed that when i choose 'reply...' from the right click menu to a message the recipient is not the list but the original sender - every time ! is the list malfunctioning by not inserting the 'reply to' header in the posts back to list subscribers? or do i have my kmail configured wrong,i have looked for some relevant setting but nothing seems to apply, it does seem that the headers in these list posts should have 'Reply-To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]' in them but they do not, of course this explains why none of my recent posts have made it on the list and why some folk have had direct mails, my fault for not reading the recipient headers on my posts! but i would like to know if it's just me or if this is a list problem (it applies to 'expert' too but other lists are fine) bascule
