Re: [newbie] mandrake 9.0 never asks for another CD during installation
Thanks. Now Iknow what to do. I gather that you do all this stuff as root on the running system, and not during the initial installation. On Sat, Dec 28, 2002 at 10:04:30PM -0800, Brandon Vanderberg wrote: Adding sources and disabling supermount are two different things. To disable supermount, it was something like 'supermount -i disable', then 'mount -a'. The main thing was adding the other sources. Now you have a choice. If you have a slow cd like I do, then you don't want to add the other cds. If you don't have much hard disk space, then you don't want to copy the cd's onto your disk. And if you don't have a fast Internet connection, then you don't wanna add the FTP source. Once you figure out which you'd like to do, follow the relevant procedure below. BTW, in my case, I've got a slow cd and limited hd space but a fast connection. I chose to add the ftp source. To add FTP sources, go to http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php#third it'll have you chose which mirror, version, and architecture you want, then present you with a command to type in. I found it very easy. Then go into software sources manager and remove the installation cd as one of the sources. To copy the CD to the hd, create a dir on a partition that has enough space for all 3 cds - something like /home/mandrake will work. Insert and mount your first cd and copy the contents to this directory. Somewhere in there will be a dir called RPMS. On the 2nd and 3rd cd are directories called RPM2, RPM3, etc. Copy these dirs over so that all the rpm dirs are in the same place. Now from the software sources manager, remove the installation cd as one of the sources, and then add a new source. I'd call it local or something like that and browse to find where the hdlist is in this new dir. So the new Mandrake/RPMS directory on hard disk sjould contains copies of the contents of RPM2, RPM3, etc, all merged together? Or should the Mandrake directory on hard disk contain new subdirectories RPM2, RPM3, etc? Also interesting that some of the things I couldn't find in my system after the the single-disk install (samba and emacs) are actually in packages on the first CD. This wants some investigation... Thank you. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finally, to just add the 2nd and 3rd cds, go into software sources manager and add removable media with each (in turn) inserted and mounted. If you edit the cd source that's already there, you'll see how to do the others. ~Brandon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hendrik Boom Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 5:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Hendrik Boom Subject: Re: [newbie] mandrake 9.0 never asks for another CD during installation On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 15:52:48 -0800 Spencer Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 18:22:49 -0500 Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 15:04:43 -0800 Spencer Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you will find that the problem is lack of memory. The bare minimum for ML9 is 64megs. In this case the reason is more apt to be lack of fd space. For a PowerPack install to request other than cd1 requires around 2 gigs or more. This is due to the pkgs being ordered on the cds in to include depends and as they need to be installed and the fact the the installation creates a /tmp to which many of the pkgs are copied prior to installation. This being why the fd space required for installation exceeds the space required for the actually used once the installation is complete. Charles I'm finding that even with more than adequate space, if you have a slow, low memory computer ( I have several g ), the installer doesn't want to put much more in than what is necessary. This is really obvious if you need to go to a text install. Spence Well, disk space is not a problem. I have 2 gig available in my Mandrake root partition, and can easily expand that to 10 gig if necessary. The 48 meg is probably the real restriction. And it's stupid, too. The machine has more than enough capacity for what I really want to do, and am doing on SuSE Linux now. Occasionally it slows doen, but not seriously, and I did want to get started with the new kernel, which is rumoured to be smaller and faster, and do a better and more flexible job of packet filtering. And even emacs did not appear during the install. There must be a way around this. Could it be that the installer really needs more than 48 meg to sort dependencies, and is incapable of using swap space? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go
RE: [newbie] mandrake 9.0 never asks for another CD during installation
Adding sources and disabling supermount are two different things. To disable supermount, it was something like 'supermount -i disable', then 'mount -a'. The main thing was adding the other sources. Now you have a choice. If you have a slow cd like I do, then you don't want to add the other cds. If you don't have much hard disk space, then you don't want to copy the cd's onto your disk. And if you don't have a fast Internet connection, then you don't wanna add the FTP source. Once you figure out which you'd like to do, follow the relevant procedure below. BTW, in my case, I've got a slow cd and limited hd space but a fast connection. I chose to add the ftp source. To add FTP sources, go to http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php#third it'll have you chose which mirror, version, and architecture you want, then present you with a command to type in. I found it very easy. Then go into software sources manager and remove the installation cd as one of the sources. To copy the CD to the hd, create a dir on a partition that has enough space for all 3 cds - something like /home/mandrake will work. Insert and mount your first cd and copy the contents to this directory. Somewhere in there will be a dir called RPMS. On the 2nd and 3rd cd are directories called RPM2, RPM3, etc. Copy these dirs over so that all the rpm dirs are in the same place. Now from the software sources manager, remove the installation cd as one of the sources, and then add a new source. I'd call it local or something like that and browse to find where the hdlist is in this new dir. Finally, to just add the 2nd and 3rd cds, go into software sources manager and add removable media with each (in turn) inserted and mounted. If you edit the cd source that's already there, you'll see how to do the others. ~Brandon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hendrik Boom Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 5:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Hendrik Boom Subject: Re: [newbie] mandrake 9.0 never asks for another CD during installation On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 15:52:48 -0800 Spencer Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 18:22:49 -0500 Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 15:04:43 -0800 Spencer Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you will find that the problem is lack of memory. The bare minimum for ML9 is 64megs. In this case the reason is more apt to be lack of fd space. For a PowerPack install to request other than cd1 requires around 2 gigs or more. This is due to the pkgs being ordered on the cds in to include depends and as they need to be installed and the fact the the installation creates a /tmp to which many of the pkgs are copied prior to installation. This being why the fd space required for installation exceeds the space required for the actually used once the installation is complete. Charles I'm finding that even with more than adequate space, if you have a slow, low memory computer ( I have several g ), the installer doesn't want to put much more in than what is necessary. This is really obvious if you need to go to a text install. Spence Well, disk space is not a problem. I have 2 gig available in my Mandrake root partition, and can easily expand that to 10 gig if necessary. The 48 meg is probably the real restriction. And it's stupid, too. The machine has more than enough capacity for what I really want to do, and am doing on SuSE Linux now. Occasionally it slows doen, but not seriously, and I did want to get started with the new kernel, which is rumoured to be smaller and faster, and do a better and more flexible job of packet filtering. And even emacs did not appear during the install. There must be a way around this. Could it be that the installer really needs more than 48 meg to sort dependencies, and is incapable of using swap space? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mandrake 9.0 never asks for another CD during installation
On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 15:52:48 -0800 Spencer Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 18:22:49 -0500 Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 15:04:43 -0800 Spencer Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you will find that the problem is lack of memory. The bare minimum for ML9 is 64megs. In this case the reason is more apt to be lack of fd space. For a PowerPack install to request other than cd1 requires around 2 gigs or more. This is due to the pkgs being ordered on the cds in to include depends and as they need to be installed and the fact the the installation creates a /tmp to which many of the pkgs are copied prior to installation. This being why the fd space required for installation exceeds the space required for the actually used once the installation is complete. Charles I'm finding that even with more than adequate space, if you have a slow, low memory computer ( I have several g ), the installer doesn't want to put much more in than what is necessary. This is really obvious if you need to go to a text install. Spence Well, disk space is not a problem. I have 2 gig available in my Mandrake root partition, and can easily expand that to 10 gig if necessary. The 48 meg is probably the real restriction. And it's stupid, too. The machine has more than enough capacity for what I really want to do, and am doing on SuSE Linux now. Occasionally it slows doen, but not seriously, and I did want to get started with the new kernel, which is rumoured to be smaller and faster, and do a better and more flexible job of packet filtering. And even emacs did not appear during the install. There must be a way around this. Could it be that the installer really needs more than 48 meg to sort dependencies, and is incapable of using swap space? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] mandrake 9.0 never asks for another CD during installation
How strange, last night I did the same thing with an old pc. The pc is a very old Pentium 100 or 200 w/ 48meg of ram and a 6 gig disk. I didn't know about the 64meg requirement, but xfree86 (ver 4) and KDE came up and loaded fine with 48. It wasn't a speed demon, but it worked well. This was with the regular 3 CD set and regular (not text) install. It only used the 1st cd for me too, but I disabled supermount, and added the 2 other cds to the source list and it worked well. I didn't see this as anything more than a very minor annoyance. Incidently, the cd-rom drive is an old 4 speed, so since then I've changed the urpmi sources to one of the ftp mirrors. But I've loaded stuff from the 2nd and 3rd cd without issue. ~Brandon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hendrik Boom Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 5:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Hendrik Boom Subject: Re: [newbie] mandrake 9.0 never asks for another CD during installation On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 15:52:48 -0800 Spencer Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 18:22:49 -0500 Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 15:04:43 -0800 Spencer Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you will find that the problem is lack of memory. The bare minimum for ML9 is 64megs. In this case the reason is more apt to be lack of fd space. For a PowerPack install to request other than cd1 requires around 2 gigs or more. This is due to the pkgs being ordered on the cds in to include depends and as they need to be installed and the fact the the installation creates a /tmp to which many of the pkgs are copied prior to installation. This being why the fd space required for installation exceeds the space required for the actually used once the installation is complete. Charles I'm finding that even with more than adequate space, if you have a slow, low memory computer ( I have several g ), the installer doesn't want to put much more in than what is necessary. This is really obvious if you need to go to a text install. Spence Well, disk space is not a problem. I have 2 gig available in my Mandrake root partition, and can easily expand that to 10 gig if necessary. The 48 meg is probably the real restriction. And it's stupid, too. The machine has more than enough capacity for what I really want to do, and am doing on SuSE Linux now. Occasionally it slows doen, but not seriously, and I did want to get started with the new kernel, which is rumoured to be smaller and faster, and do a better and more flexible job of packet filtering. And even emacs did not appear during the install. There must be a way around this. Could it be that the installer really needs more than 48 meg to sort dependencies, and is incapable of using swap space? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mandrake 9.0 never asks for another CD during installation
On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 12:58:38PM -0800, Brandon Vanderberg wrote: How strange, last night I did the same thing with an old pc. The pc is a very old Pentium 100 or 200 w/ 48meg of ram and a 6 gig disk. I didn't know about the 64meg requirement, but xfree86 (ver 4) and KDE came up and loaded fine with 48. It wasn't a speed demon, but it worked well. This was with the regular 3 CD set and regular (not text) install. It only used the 1st cd for me too, but I disabled supermount, and added the 2 other cds to the source list and it worked well. I didn't see this as anything more than a very minor annoyance. Incidently, the cd-rom drive is an old 4 speed, so since then I've changed the urpmi sources to one of the ftp mirrors. But I've loaded stuff from the 2nd and 3rd cd without issue. That sounds like what I need. Just how do you disable supermount and add other cds to the source list. Is this something you do before installation? Or during? Or after? With a previous version onf Mandrake (I forget which) is asked me during install which CD's I had. With 9.0 it never asks. I hope there is another way to add to the source list than to answer this question! Or if I try a hard-disk install and start by putting the contents of the all the CD's on hard disk, do I put each in a separate directory? Or should I merge them all into one directory? by, say tarring each CD into a tarfile and then untarring them all into the same directory? That way there would be no separate CD to think of mounting. ~Brandon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hendrik Boom Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 5:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Hendrik Boom Subject: Re: [newbie] mandrake 9.0 never asks for another CD during installation On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 15:52:48 -0800 Spencer Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 18:22:49 -0500 Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 15:04:43 -0800 Spencer Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you will find that the problem is lack of memory. The bare minimum for ML9 is 64megs. In this case the reason is more apt to be lack of fd space. For a PowerPack install to request other than cd1 requires around 2 gigs or more. This is due to the pkgs being ordered on the cds in to include depends and as they need to be installed and the fact the the installation creates a /tmp to which many of the pkgs are copied prior to installation. This being why the fd space required for installation exceeds the space required for the actually used once the installation is complete. Charles I'm finding that even with more than adequate space, if you have a slow, low memory computer ( I have several g ), the installer doesn't want to put much more in than what is necessary. This is really obvious if you need to go to a text install. Spence Well, disk space is not a problem. I have 2 gig available in my Mandrake root partition, and can easily expand that to 10 gig if necessary. The 48 meg is probably the real restriction. And it's stupid, too. The machine has more than enough capacity for what I really want to do, and am doing on SuSE Linux now. Occasionally it slows doen, but not seriously, and I did want to get started with the new kernel, which is rumoured to be smaller and faster, and do a better and more flexible job of packet filtering. And even emacs did not appear during the install. There must be a way around this. Could it be that the installer really needs more than 48 meg to sort dependencies, and is incapable of using swap space? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
