Re: lm_sensors was Re: [newbie] Way, way of topic
El Dom 10 Nov 2002 12:22, Tom Brinkman escribió: > If lm_sensors is properly installed and configured, and theres no > hardware dificiency on the motherboards part, compensating temps using > gkrellm tweaks is a bad idea. The temps you see in bios, even after a > warm reboot are indicative of a system that is under very low load and > isn't up to operating temperature. Temps after booting the OS, > specially under load, should be higher than what bios reported. > > The important thing to note with voltages is that they stay steady. > Varying voltages, again, specially under load (eg, 'make modules'), > indicates a poor and/or inadequate power supply. > > The acid test for all this is http://users.ev1.net/~redelm/ Gracias, Tom file:/usr/share/doc/lm_sensors-2.6.4/doc/FAQ have a lot of info. I'm reading now. -- Pilagá GNU/Linux Mandrake 9.0 2:10pm up 55 min, 3 users, load average: 0.04, 0.03, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: lm_sensors was Re: [newbie] Way, way of topic
On Sunday November 10 2002 06:49 am, Franki wrote: > cool, I'm loading gkrellm now and I'll do it.. > > but what I am after really is a console tool of some sort that > detected alarms and could send an email then shutdown the system if > its overheating.. so I guess I'd have to get lm_sensors correct > rather then compensating with gkrellm... > Hola, Frank. This is what I do: Installed gkrellm-1.2.13-3mdk.rpm + > gkrellm-plugins-1.2.13-1mdk.rpm Then, take note of values as are > reported by BIOS (enter Setup) and, finally, right click on gkrellm > and fine tune each value to match BIOS values. > > Suerte. If lm_sensors is properly installed and configured, and theres no hardware dificiency on the motherboards part, compensating temps using gkrellm tweaks is a bad idea. The temps you see in bios, even after a warm reboot are indicative of a system that is under very low load and isn't up to operating temperature. Temps after booting the OS, specially under load, should be higher than what bios reported. The important thing to note with voltages is that they stay steady. Varying voltages, again, specially under load (eg, 'make modules'), indicates a poor and/or inadequate power supply. The acid test for all this is http://users.ev1.net/~redelm/ -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: lm_sensors was Re: [newbie] Way, way of topic
On Saturday November 9 2002 09:25 am, John Richard Smith wrote: > Tom, > I downloaded lm_sensors-2.6.4-4mdk.i586.rpm, > It wanted CD2 , I gave it, but still it reported , > libpng12.so.0<>=s is needed by lm_sensors-2.6.4-4mdk.i586.rpm, > with no clue as to where to find it. > > Do you think it's worth chasing this dependency or is it not much > hope. > > John tom$ frpm lm_sensors liblm_sensors1-2.6.4-4mdk lm_sensors-2.6.4-4mdk tom$ wrpm libpng12.so.0 libpng3-1.2.4-3mdk f(ind)rpm & w(hat)rpm are aliases I use You need 'em all. IIRC they're on the CD's. Easiest should be to just do 'urpmi lm_sensors' and it should get any deps for you. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: Re: lm_sensors was Re: [newbie] Way, way of topic
cool, I'm loading gkrellm now and I'll do it.. but what I am after really is a console tool of some sort that detected alarms and could send an email then shutdown the system if its overheating.. so I guess I'd have to get lm_sensors correct rather then compensating with gkrellm... I figured there would be a file somewhere that contained the min/max settings for lm_sensors.. guess I'm going googling again. rgds frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:newbie-owner@;linux-mandrake.com]On Behalf Of Pilagá Sent: Sunday, 10 November 2002 8:01 PM To: Mandrake Linux Subject: Fwd: Re: lm_sensors was Re: [newbie] Way, way of topic El Dom 10 Nov 2002 08:26, Franki escribió: > I just loaded lm_sensors and its running fine.. > > however, when I check the logs, its alarming on the default settings.. > > things like core voltage and what not it is assuming the wrong min > settings.. > > is there a place I can edit what the default alarm settings are??? > > Also, what is a gui app that monitors lm_sensors output? > > > rgds > > Frank Hola, Frank. This is what I do: Installed gkrellm-1.2.13-3mdk.rpm + gkrellm-plugins-1.2.13-1mdk.rpm Then, take note of values as are reported by BIOS (enter Setup) and, finally, right click on gkrellm and fine tune each value to match BIOS values. Suerte. -- Pilagá GNU/Linux Mandrake 9.0 8:43am up 15 min, 2 users, load average: 0.02, 0.06, 0.07 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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El Dom 10 Nov 2002 08:26, Franki escribió: > I just loaded lm_sensors and its running fine.. > > however, when I check the logs, its alarming on the default settings.. > > things like core voltage and what not it is assuming the wrong min > settings.. > > is there a place I can edit what the default alarm settings are??? > > Also, what is a gui app that monitors lm_sensors output? > > > rgds > > Frank Hola, Frank. This is what I do: Installed gkrellm-1.2.13-3mdk.rpm + gkrellm-plugins-1.2.13-1mdk.rpm Then, take note of values as are reported by BIOS (enter Setup) and, finally, right click on gkrellm and fine tune each value to match BIOS values. Suerte. -- Pilagá GNU/Linux Mandrake 9.0 8:43am up 15 min, 2 users, load average: 0.02, 0.06, 0.07 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: lm_sensors was Re: [newbie] Way, way of topic
I just loaded lm_sensors and its running fine.. however, when I check the logs, its alarming on the default settings.. things like core voltage and what not it is assuming the wrong min settings.. is there a place I can edit what the default alarm settings are??? Also, what is a gui app that monitors lm_sensors output? rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:newbie-owner@;linux-mandrake.com]On Behalf Of Dennis Myers Sent: Saturday, 9 November 2002 11:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lm_sensors was Re: [newbie] Way, way of topic On Friday 08 November 2002 07:46 pm, Roger Sherman wrote: > On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, Tom Brinkman wrote: > > If it's from lm_sensors, it's > > comin from a probe (thermistor) that either reads one of the cpu's > > pins, or is in contact with the die. From a pin is slightly better, > > I know this has been covered here before, but I can't find it in the > archives (I can never find anything in those damn archives!). How does one > set up lm_sensors, once installed? Go into a console and su to root, give password, at the prompt type "sensors-detect" without the quotes of course, it will take you through a dialogue of yes no answers and at the end give you some scripts to edit into /etc/rc.d/rc.local and /etc/modules.conf files just highlight them and in your choice of editors click middle mouse button or rightmouse and paste the additions in. For the rc.local I always add the changes right after the first dialogue paragraph. Works every time for me. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: lm_sensors was Re: [newbie] Way, way of topic
Dennis Myers wrote: On Saturday 09 November 2002 12:24 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: John check and see if you have liblm_sensors1-2.6.4-4mdk installed, it looks like what you d/l'd may be different versions and they aren't compatible. My system has lm_sensors-2.6.4-4mdk installed and the above liblm and works dandy. HTH Yes, that's the key to it,first find and install from cd1 :- liblm_sensors1-2.6.2-4mdk.i586.rpm liblm_sensors1-devel-2.6.2-4mdk.rpm then cd2:- liblm_sensors1-static-devel-2.6.2-4mdk.1586.rpm lm_sensors-2.6.2-4mdk.i586.rpm all goes on sweetly, now to configure it. John That's great, glad you got it. One thing though, in a lot of cases the devel packages are not needed, unless you do development work on that particular package which by what I see of your posts you might. (run on sentence). Anyway, it works for me without the devel packages so I don't install them just to keep things neat and tidy. Cheers, Now the config, seems there's more to it than meets the eye,this is how it went, [root@localhost root]# sensors-detect This program will help you to determine which I2C/SMBus modules you need to We can start with probing for (PCI) I2C or SMBus adapters. You do not need any special privileges for this. Do you want to probe now? (YES/no): Probing for PCI bus adapters... Use driver `i2c-viapro' for device 00:11.0: VIA Technologies VT8233 VLink South Bridge Probe succesfully concluded. We will now try to load each adapter module in turn. Load `i2c-viapro' (say NO if built into your kernel)? (YES/no): NO I think I should of said yes here, can I run the prog again. Do you now want to be prompted for non-detectable adapters? (yes/NO): yes Load `i2c-elektor' (say NO if built into your kernel)? (YES/no): yes /lib/modules/2.4.18-6mdk/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-elektor.o.gz: init_module: No su ch device Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including inva lid IO or IRQ parameters modprobe: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.18-6mdk/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-elektor.o.gz fa iled modprobe: insmod i2c-elektor failed Loading failed ()... skipping. Load `i2c-elv' (say NO if built into your kernel)? (YES/no): yes /lib/modules/2.4.18-6mdk/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-elv.o.gz: init_module: No such d evice Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including inva lid IO or IRQ parameters modprobe: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.18-6mdk/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-elv.o.gz failed modprobe: insmod i2c-elv failed Loading failed ()... skipping. Load `i2c-philips-par' (say NO if built into your kernel)? (YES/no): yes Module loaded succesfully. Load `i2c-velleman' (say NO if built into your kernel)? (YES/no): yes /lib/modules/2.4.18-6mdk/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-velleman.o.gz: init_module: No such device Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters modprobe: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.18-6mdk/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-velleman.o.gz failed modprobe: insmod i2c-velleman failed Loading failed ()... skipping. To continue, we need module `i2c-dev' to be loaded. If it is built-in into your kernel, you can safely skip this. i2c-dev is not loaded. Do you want to load it now? (YES/no): yes Module loaded succesfully. We are now going to do the adapter probings. Some adapters may hang halfway through; we can't really help that. Also, some chips will be double detected; we choose the one with the highest confidence value in that case. If you found that the adapter hung after probing a certain address, you can specify that address to remain unprobed. That often includes address 0x69 (clock chip). Some chips are also accessible through the ISA bus. ISA probes are typically a bit more dangerous, as we have to write to I/O ports to do this. Do you want to scan the ISA bus? (YES/no): yes Probing for `National Semiconductor LM78' Trying address 0x0290... Failed! Probing for `National Semiconductor LM78-J' Trying address 0x0290... Failed! Probing for `National Semiconductor LM79' Trying address 0x0290... Failed! Probing for `Winbond W83781D' Trying address 0x0290... Failed! Probing for `Winbond W83782D' Trying address 0x0290... Failed! Probing for `Winbond W83627HF' Trying address 0x0290... Success! (confidence 8, driver `w83781d') Probing for `Winbond W83697HF' Trying address 0x0290... Failed! Probing for `Silicon Integrated Systems SIS5595' Trying general detect... Failed! Probing for `VIA Technologies VT 82C686 Integrated Sensors' Trying general detect... Failed! Probing for `ITE IT8705F / IT8712F / SiS 950' Trying address 0x0290... Failed! Now follows a summary of the probes I have just done. Just press ENTER to continue: Driver `w83781d' (should be inserted): Detects correctly: * ISA bus address 0x0290 (Busdriver `i2c-isa') Chip `Winbond W83627HF' (confidence: 8) I will now generate the commands needed to load the I2C modules. Sometimes, a chip is available both through the ISA bus and an
Re: lm_sensors was Re: [newbie] Way, way of topic
Dennis Myers wrote: On Saturday 09 November 2002 10:26 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Dennis Myers wrote: On Saturday 09 November 2002 09:25 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Tom Brinkman wrote: On Friday November 8 2002 07:46 pm, Roger Sherman wrote: On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, Tom Brinkman wrote: If it's from lm_sensors, it's comin from a probe (thermistor) that either reads one of the cpu's pins, or is in contact with the die. From a pin is slightly better, I know this has been covered here before, but I can't find it in the archives (I can never find anything in those damn archives!). How does one set up lm_sensors, once installed? First, not all motherboards support hardware monitoring. If you see temps, voltages, etc. in bios the board does. If you don't it most likely doesn't. If it does, then run (as root) 'sensors-detect' You'll go thru a list of questions, in most all cases just hit , eg, take the default answer to all of 'em. The script will then generate a few lines and tell you which to put in /etc/modules.conf or at the very end of rc.local. Back in sensors-detect there's one more question, write a config file? Say yes, and you're done. Then run rc.local, eg, '/etc/rc.d/rc.local'. Then typing 'sensors' as root or user should display your voltages, fan speeds and temps. Tom, I downloaded lm_sensors-2.6.4-4mdk.i586.rpm, It wanted CD2 , I gave it, but still it reported , libpng12.so.0<>=s is needed by lm_sensors-2.6.4-4mdk.i586.rpm, with no clue as to where to find it. Do you think it's worth chasing this dependency or is it not much hope. John John if you go to rpmfind.net and type the libpng12.so.0 in the find box, it will give you the actual rpm that that file is in. You can download the file or see if it is on you CDs and install. HTH Well I did that but yet again I get libpng3 <>=s1.2.1-6mdk is needed by libpng3-devel-1.2.1-6mdk I checked the install discs previously and all libpng rpm's listed are installed except for something on CD1 /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/mdkinst/lib/libpng.so.3 which is not an rpm file and seems to be something to aid the mandrake installer. This is turning into a chase my tail job. I think I will leave it. John John check and see if you have liblm_sensors1-2.6.4-4mdk installed, it looks like what you d/l'd may be different versions and they aren't compatible. My system has lm_sensors-2.6.4-4mdk installed and the above liblm and works dandy. HTH Yes, that's the key to it,first find and install from cd1 :- liblm_sensors1-2.6.2-4mdk.i586.rpm liblm_sensors1-devel-2.6.2-4mdk.rpm then cd2:- liblm_sensors1-static-devel-2.6.2-4mdk.1586.rpm lm_sensors-2.6.2-4mdk.i586.rpm all goes on sweetly, now to configure it. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: lm_sensors was Re: [newbie] Way, way of topic
Dennis Myers wrote: On Saturday 09 November 2002 09:25 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Tom Brinkman wrote: On Friday November 8 2002 07:46 pm, Roger Sherman wrote: On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, Tom Brinkman wrote: If it's from lm_sensors, it's comin from a probe (thermistor) that either reads one of the cpu's pins, or is in contact with the die. From a pin is slightly better, I know this has been covered here before, but I can't find it in the archives (I can never find anything in those damn archives!). How does one set up lm_sensors, once installed? First, not all motherboards support hardware monitoring. If you see temps, voltages, etc. in bios the board does. If you don't it most likely doesn't. If it does, then run (as root) 'sensors-detect' You'll go thru a list of questions, in most all cases just hit , eg, take the default answer to all of 'em. The script will then generate a few lines and tell you which to put in /etc/modules.conf or at the very end of rc.local. Back in sensors-detect there's one more question, write a config file? Say yes, and you're done. Then run rc.local, eg, '/etc/rc.d/rc.local'. Then typing 'sensors' as root or user should display your voltages, fan speeds and temps. Tom, I downloaded lm_sensors-2.6.4-4mdk.i586.rpm, It wanted CD2 , I gave it, but still it reported , libpng12.so.0<>=s is needed by lm_sensors-2.6.4-4mdk.i586.rpm, with no clue as to where to find it. Do you think it's worth chasing this dependency or is it not much hope. John John if you go to rpmfind.net and type the libpng12.so.0 in the find box, it will give you the actual rpm that that file is in. You can download the file or see if it is on you CDs and install. HTH Well I did that but yet again I get libpng3 <>=s1.2.1-6mdk is needed by libpng3-devel-1.2.1-6mdk I checked the install discs previously and all libpng rpm's listed are installed except for something on CD1 /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/mdkinst/lib/libpng.so.3 which is not an rpm file and seems to be something to aid the mandrake installer. This is turning into a chase my tail job. I think I will leave it. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: lm_sensors was Re: [newbie] Way, way of topic
Tom Brinkman wrote: On Friday November 8 2002 07:46 pm, Roger Sherman wrote: On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, Tom Brinkman wrote: If it's from lm_sensors, it's comin from a probe (thermistor) that either reads one of the cpu's pins, or is in contact with the die. From a pin is slightly better, I know this has been covered here before, but I can't find it in the archives (I can never find anything in those damn archives!). How does one set up lm_sensors, once installed? First, not all motherboards support hardware monitoring. If you see temps, voltages, etc. in bios the board does. If you don't it most likely doesn't. If it does, then run (as root) 'sensors-detect' You'll go thru a list of questions, in most all cases just hit , eg, take the default answer to all of 'em. The script will then generate a few lines and tell you which to put in /etc/modules.conf or at the very end of rc.local. Back in sensors-detect there's one more question, write a config file? Say yes, and you're done. Then run rc.local, eg, '/etc/rc.d/rc.local'. Then typing 'sensors' as root or user should display your voltages, fan speeds and temps. Tom, I downloaded lm_sensors-2.6.4-4mdk.i586.rpm, It wanted CD2 , I gave it, but still it reported , libpng12.so.0<>=s is needed by lm_sensors-2.6.4-4mdk.i586.rpm, with no clue as to where to find it. Do you think it's worth chasing this dependency or is it not much hope. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: lm_sensors was Re: [newbie] Way, way of topic
On Friday 08 November 2002 07:46 pm, Roger Sherman wrote: > On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, Tom Brinkman wrote: > > If it's from lm_sensors, it's > > comin from a probe (thermistor) that either reads one of the cpu's > > pins, or is in contact with the die. From a pin is slightly better, > > I know this has been covered here before, but I can't find it in the > archives (I can never find anything in those damn archives!). How does one > set up lm_sensors, once installed? Go into a console and su to root, give password, at the prompt type "sensors-detect" without the quotes of course, it will take you through a dialogue of yes no answers and at the end give you some scripts to edit into /etc/rc.d/rc.local and /etc/modules.conf files just highlight them and in your choice of editors click middle mouse button or rightmouse and paste the additions in. For the rc.local I always add the changes right after the first dialogue paragraph. Works every time for me. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: lm_sensors was Re: [newbie] Way, way of topic
Its been ages since i done it last, but you have to run the setup program.. its something like lmdetect it will work out what your sensors are and configure it all. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:newbie-owner@;linux-mandrake.com]On Behalf Of Roger Sherman Sent: Saturday, 9 November 2002 9:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: lm_sensors was Re: [newbie] Way, way of topic On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, Tom Brinkman wrote: > If it's from lm_sensors, it's > comin from a probe (thermistor) that either reads one of the cpu's > pins, or is in contact with the die. From a pin is slightly better, I know this has been covered here before, but I can't find it in the archives (I can never find anything in those damn archives!). How does one set up lm_sensors, once installed? -- peace, Rog http://www.slammingrooves.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com