Re: [newbie] Any hope for Java on Linux?

2001-08-23 Thread Michael F. Aube

Dear Dr. Evil,

I too have installed Sun's jdk1.3.1 on Mandrake 8.0, and I use it every
day to write software in Java.  As long as you set up the appropriate
environment variables (namely PATH and CLASSPATH), you shouldn't have any
trouble writing, compiling, and running Java programs.

If you would like more details on how I set up my environment to support
Java development, I would be more than happy to share them with you.  Just
send me a reply, and I will help you unravel the Java mysteries...

By the way, it is my humble opinion that getting the environment
configured correctly is at least half the battle in learning how to
program in Java.  It's not always intuitive at first, and it's definitely
easier to get started if you have the help of someone who has already set
things up before on several different OS's.  And yes, compiled Java
classes are truly portable across OS's without recompiling (with a few
exceptions like Java Native Interface API and multi-threaded programs).

Hope this helps you want to try again.  Please contact me if you would
like help getting Java set up on your Mandrake box.

Mike

--- Dr. Evil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 It seems very difficult to get the Linux java stuff working.  When I
 installed Mandrake, it came with a bunch of java stuff:
 
 /usr/bin/java  /usr/bin/javac  /usr/bin/javadoc  /usr/bin/javakey
 /usr/bin/javap
 
 However, when I set my java interpreter to /usr/bin/java in Konqueror,
 it wouldn't run java applets.  I downloaded the Sun JDK, and installed
 it in /usr/local/jdk1.3.1/, and then set Konqueror's java to
 /usr/local/jdk1.3.1/bin/java.  Now Konq shows java applets just fine.
 So, what was /usr/bin/java for?
 
 Also, I am now trying to write some of my own java stuff.  When I use
 Sun's JDK javac, I can compile things just fine, but when I try to run
 even the simplest java thing from the commandline, I get this error:
 
 Exception in thread main java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: test/class 
 
 So, what's the story on java with Linux?  So far it seems that java is
 write once, run nowhere.
 
 Shouldn't this stuff be built in the kernel?  In other words,
 shouldn't the kernel be able to execute java binaries by using some
 kind of built-in JVM?
 
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RE: [newbie] Any hope for Java on Linux?

2001-08-23 Thread Charles A Edwards




 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Brinkman
 Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 9:42 AM
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 Subject: Re: [newbie] Any hope for Java on Linux?


 On Wednesday 22 August 2001 09:07 pm, Dr. Evil escribió:
  It seems very difficult to get the Linux java stuff working.  When I
  installed Mandrake, it came with a bunch of java stuff:
 
  /usr/bin/java  /usr/bin/javac  /usr/bin/javadoc  /usr/bin/javakey
  /usr/bin/javap
 
  However, when I set my java interpreter to /usr/bin/java in
  Konqueror, it wouldn't run java applets.  I downloaded the Sun JDK,
  and installed it in /usr/local/jdk1.3.1/, and then set Konqueror's
  java to /usr/local/jdk1.3.1/bin/java.  Now Konq shows java applets
  just fine. So, what was /usr/bin/java for?

The java Mandrake ships with is the free and open source Kaffe
 http://www.kaffe.org/   Mandrake can't, won't, and shouldn't include
 proprietary software like Sun's java. Google 'free software'
 and 'open
 source software' for a better understanding of these issues.
 --
   Tom Brinkman   Galveston Bay



Java.
IBM jre, Sun jdk and jre as well as Forte and Borland jbuilder
are on the Commercial CDs in the 8.0 Powerpack.

   Charles  (-:

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Re: [newbie] Any hope for Java on Linux?

2001-08-23 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Wednesday 22 August 2001 09:07 pm, Dr. Evil escribió:
 It seems very difficult to get the Linux java stuff working.  When I
 installed Mandrake, it came with a bunch of java stuff:

 /usr/bin/java  /usr/bin/javac  /usr/bin/javadoc  /usr/bin/javakey
 /usr/bin/javap

 However, when I set my java interpreter to /usr/bin/java in
 Konqueror, it wouldn't run java applets.  I downloaded the Sun JDK,
 and installed it in /usr/local/jdk1.3.1/, and then set Konqueror's
 java to /usr/local/jdk1.3.1/bin/java.  Now Konq shows java applets
 just fine. So, what was /usr/bin/java for?

   The java Mandrake ships with is the free and open source Kaffe
http://www.kaffe.org/   Mandrake can't, won't, and shouldn't include 
proprietary software like Sun's java. Google 'free software' and 'open 
source software' for a better understanding of these issues. 
-- 
Tom Brinkman   Galveston Bay



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Re: [newbie] Any hope for Java on Linux?

2001-08-22 Thread Kirby Urner


If it's any consolation, I know Java developers who
use Linux full time and consider it a fine development
platform.  I think IBM does a slick Java JVM -- but
none of this is personal experience (I've written some
Java in Windoze and that's it).

Kirby




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