Re: [newbie] HD SATA
On Tuesday September 2 2003 10:35 am, Frankie wrote: OTOH, I don't believe SATA is that much if any improvement over ATA/133. I've read Net reports to that affect. Some Mandrake users have posted SATA hdparm -Tt numbers on various groups an forums, an they're all less then the numbers my ATA/133 puts out. Actually most of 'em were closer to what my ATA/100 drive gets. At the moment there is no real improvement over ATA drives because the SATA drives are really just ATA drives wtih a SATA interface tacked on.. when they start designing drives around the SATA standard, things will pick up and we'll have game on. rgds Franki Yes, that info plus some other stuff I didn't really understand was in the Net reports I've read. Also it was predicted that before SATA catches on, we'll be movin into PCI-eXpress ;) Now to my mind, that's where the improvement was always needed. IE, gettin off the old an tired 33mhz PCI bus. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HD SATA
On Wednesday 03 Sep 2003 5:04 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: Yes, that info plus some other stuff I didn't really understand was in the Net reports I've read. Also it was predicted that before SATA catches on, we'll be movin into PCI-eXpress ;) Now to my mind, that's where the improvement was always needed. IE, gettin off the old an tired 33mhz PCI bus. 'Next year will be the year of PCI-Express' is what I read today. I take it that it will mean that we ditch all our existing cards, or they will slow the bus down? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HD SATA
On Wednesday September 3 2003 09:26 am, Eko Budiharto wrote: Hi Tom, isn't the 9.2 still beta? If not, can you tell me where you get the non beta version? It's not so much a Mandrake version deal, as it is kernel and driver. Promise recently released their SATA driver under the GPL, an I believe it's already in the latest kernels. That's the one I'd need, so it's the only one I've paid any attention to. I'm pretty sure 9.x would handle SATA, but I don't know which controllers are supported, if you'd need a newer kernel, or if you'd need to d/l a 3rd party driver for your SATA controller. OTOH, I don't believe SATA is that much if any improvement over ATA/133. I've read Net reports to that affect. Some Mandrake users have posted SATA hdparm -Tt numbers on various groups an forums, an they're all less then the numbers my ATA/133 puts out. Actually most of 'em were closer to what my ATA/100 drive gets. (Eko, you've got your mailer's 'reply to' set to yourself. You should leave the reply to configuration line blank. Thanks) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HD SATA
Just my cat /var/log/messages|grep ATA ep 3 05:16:14 lvghomepc kernel: SiI3112 Serial ATA: IDE controller at PCI slot 01:0b.0 Sep 3 05:16:14 lvghomepc kernel: SiI3112 Serial ATA: chipset revision 2 Sep 3 05:16:14 lvghomepc kernel: SiI3112 Serial ATA: not 100%% native mode: will probe irqs later I don't have any SATA drives -- L.V.Gandhi 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HD SATA
On Tuesday 02 Sep 2003 3:18 pm, Tony S. Sykes wrote: 2800+ Athlon XP and a Asus a7n8x Deluxe with x 2 sata150 7200 120gb Seagate's. I have tried to speed them up using hdparm -X66 -d1 but them still use a lot of cpu and still brought my system down but it did speed them up. I did want to use hardware raid but the driver is not completed yet. I have the same motherboard with Athlon 24009+ and 256 MB DDR (333 mhz). Even IDE harddisks which were shown automatically as udma5 in kobian MB with intel 815 chipset(which I had previously), are shown as udma2. Even putting a command in /etc/rc.local as hdparm -d1 -c1 -u1 -X69 /dev/hdb hdparm -d1 -c1 -u1 -X69 /dev/hda has not helped to make them udma5. Further hdparm -tT values are less. Previously I had [EMAIL PROTECTED] lvgandhi]# hdparm -tT /dev/hda /dev/hda: Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 1.42 seconds = 90.14 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 2.30 seconds = 27.83 MB/sec [EMAIL PROTECTED] lvgandhi]# hdparm -tT /dev/hdb /dev/hdb: Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 1.42 seconds = 90.14 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 1.59 seconds = 40.25 MB/sec Now I have [EMAIL PROTECTED] lvgandhi]# hdparm -tT /dev/hda /dev/hda: Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 0.43 seconds =297.67 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 4.18 seconds = 15.31 MB/sec [EMAIL PROTECTED] lvgandhi]# [EMAIL PROTECTED] lvgandhi]# hdparm -tT /dev/hdb /dev/hdb: Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 0.43 seconds =297.67 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 2.19 seconds = 29.22 MB/sec As can be seen buffered disk read has come down 30 to 50%. I am at loss to understand what to do to get udma 5 for my hdds back. -- L.V.Gandhi 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HD SATA
On Tuesday September 2 2003 05:58 am, Eko Budiharto wrote: Hi, have anyone of you ever installed in SATA with MDK? Is HD SATA working with MDK? In 9.2 yes, I don't know about 9.1 an older. I have a SATA port, but no SATA drive. So I can't say how well it works. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
