Re: [newbie] mandriva future?

2005-04-11 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 11 Apr 2005 12:04, Dobrescu Mihai wrote:
 Dear community,

 After the merge, what happents to the distro?
 Will be any free version available?
 I used MDK for 2 years...
 I've started to love it!

quote
Q1. Will the Limited Edition 2005 distro be split into several flavors, like 
Discovery and PowerPack? A download Edition (3CD available on public mirrors) 
will be released?

 A1. There will be only one version available through the Mandrakestore. Club 
members will have access to several different versions, and there will be a 
Download edition as before.
/quote

There will be one download free version per year, with additional material 
available to club members.

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Re: [newbie] mandriva future?

2005-04-11 Thread Mike Adolf
On Monday 11 April 2005 05:59 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Monday 11 Apr 2005 12:04, Dobrescu Mihai wrote:
  Dear community,
 
  After the merge, what happents to the distro?
  Will be any free version available?
  I used MDK for 2 years...
  I've started to love it!

 quote
 Q1. Will the Limited Edition 2005 distro be split into several flavors,
 like Discovery and PowerPack? A download Edition (3CD available on public
 mirrors) will be released?

  A1. There will be only one version available through the Mandrakestore.
 Club members will have access to several different versions, and there will
 be a Download edition as before.
 /quote

 There will be one download free version per year, with additional material
 available to club members.

 Anne

Hi Anne

Do you think there will be (free) updates available for the download version 
as it is now?  I suppose the same urpmi soruces will be available?

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Re: [newbie] mandriva future?

2005-04-11 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 11 Apr 2005 18:04, Mike Adolf wrote:
  quote
  Q1. Will the Limited Edition 2005 distro be split into several flavors,
  like Discovery and PowerPack? A download Edition (3CD available on public
  mirrors) will be released?
 
   A1. There will be only one version available through the Mandrakestore.
  Club members will have access to several different versions, and there
  will be a Download edition as before.
  /quote
 
  There will be one download free version per year, with additional
  material available to club members.
 
  Anne

 Hi Anne

 Do you think there will be (free) updates available for the download
 version as it is now?  I suppose the same urpmi soruces will be available?

I don't have any insider info, but I was in the chat room when this was said.  
I got the impression that security updates etc will continue to be freely 
available.  New material, possibly including major updates, will be confined 
to club members.  That's only my impression, though.

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Re: [newbie] mandriva quickstart guide + faq

2005-04-10 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Sunday 10 April 2005 19:12, Philippe Landau wrote:
 after installing Mandrakelinux 10.1 Official DVD
 i am a bit lost.
 the installation went fast and fine,
 but i need thunderbird, firefox, gaim, amule.
 can i install them through the software management interface ?

 after configuring konqueror and the screen resolution,
 installing firefox and thunderbird from mozilla.org,
 and not seeing my external usb harddisk, i restarted,
 and now konqueror does not start anymore.
 so i wanted to uninstall it,
 but software manager does not find it.

 is there a faq answering such questions ?

 kind regards philippe

I gather from your post you are very new to linux in general.
Try not to expect the same handling as you did in windows.
Do not (just)uninstall what doesn't seem to work for you, you might need it 
again later.
Take your time to look around at what you've got installed...it's more than 
you think or can see at a first glance.

Yes, I would certainly advise to _only_ install via the software 
managerthat will save some disappointments, depencies_wise.

For tips, tricks and faq's check the twiki:
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/WebHome

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Re: [newbie] mandriva quickstart guide + faq

2005-04-10 Thread Philippe Landau
H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
On Sunday 10 April 2005 19:12, Philippe Landau wrote:
after installing Mandrakelinux 10.1 Official DVD
i am a bit lost.
the installation went fast and fine,
but i need thunderbird, firefox, gaim, amule.
can i install them through the software management interface ?

is there a faq answering such questions ?

I gather from your post you are very new to linux in general.
not really new, but not at home, right :-)
Try not to expect the same handling as you did in windows.
Do not (just)uninstall what doesn't seem to work for you, 
you might need it again later.
in debian a troubleshooting trick is to remove completely,
including the configuration files, through synaptic,
and then reinstall.
can mdr software manager remove config files too ?
Take your time to look around at what you've got installed...it's more than 
you think or can see at a first glance.

Yes, I would certainly advise to _only_ install via the software 
managerthat will save some disappointments, depencies_wise.
i will try then.
For tips, tricks and faq's check the twiki:
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/WebHome
ah great, thank you. now on:
http://mandriva.vmlinuz.ca/
Getting started points to the beautifully done
http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/   that i needed today.
and everything done by the kind souls helping so much
on these lists too.
thank you all.
kind regards philippe


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Re: [newbie] Mandriva

2005-04-07 Thread Miark
On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 22:33:40 -0400, Ivo wrote:

 I think Mandriva is awful... 

Me too. But it's official now:

http://www.mandriva.com/company/press/pr?n=/pr/corporate/2551

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Re: [newbie] Mandriva

2005-04-07 Thread Miark
On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 10:51:11 -0400, Miark wrote:

 On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 22:33:40 -0400, Ivo wrote:
 
  I think Mandriva is awful... 
 
 Me too. But it's official now:
 
 http://www.mandriva.com/company/press/pr?n=/pr/corporate/2551

Here's one tidbit that makes the change a bit more palatable:

The long-winding trademark lawsuit with Hearst Corporation has
reached a point where we decided it is more reasonable for us to
move forward. By adopting a new name, we eliminate the liability
attached to the Mandrakesoft name

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Re: [newbie] Mandriva

2005-04-07 Thread Aron Smith
On Thursday 07 April 2005 07:51 am, Miark wrote:

Agreed its horrible corrupted to Mandrivel too  easy Marketing wise this is a 
bad move
 On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 22:33:40 -0400, Ivo wrote:
  I think Mandriva is awful...

 Me too. But it's official now:

 http://www.mandriva.com/company/press/pr?n=/pr/corporate/2551

 Miark


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Re: [newbie] Mandriva

2005-04-07 Thread Philippe Landau
Aron Smith wrote:
On Thursday 07 April 2005 07:51 am, Miark wrote:
On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 22:33:40 -0400, Ivo wrote:
I think Mandriva is awful...
Me too. But it's official now:
http://www.mandriva.com/company/press/pr?n=/pr/corporate/2551
Miark
Agreed its horrible corrupted to Mandrivel too  easy Marketing wise this is a 
bad move
it's cool. i like ManDiva, Mantrivia; Mandrilla.
Mandrills are great :-)
http://www.thebigzoo.com/Animals/Mandrill.asp
you know it's funny when it gets better every time :-)
and it follows a modern androgynous trend ;-)
in any case, you can't complain they lack humour,
and a whiff of entertainment can't be bad for our future Windows ...
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Re: [newbie] Mandriva

2005-04-07 Thread Rafa Kamraj
Aron Smith wrote:
On Thursday 07 April 2005 07:51 am, Miark wrote:
Agreed its horrible corrupted to Mandrivel too  easy Marketing wise this is a 
bad move
 

Well, maybe there is a method in this madness. Anyone knew anything 
about thouse trademark lawsuit with

Hearst Corporation?
Rafa


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Re: [newbie] Mandriva

2005-04-07 Thread Derek Jennings
On Friday 08 April 2005 01:14, Rafa Kamraj wrote:
 Aron Smith wrote:
 On Thursday 07 April 2005 07:51 am, Miark wrote:
 
 Agreed its horrible corrupted to Mandrivel too  easy Marketing wise this
  is a bad move

 Well, maybe there is a method in this madness. Anyone knew anything
 about thouse trademark lawsuit with

 Hearst Corporation?

 Rafa

MandrakeSoft have been in dispute with the owners of the rights of 'Mandrake 
the Magician' a 1920's comic strip for some time.

The use of the wand and stars in Mandrake's old logos did not exactly help 
their case. (now only the stars remain)

IMO the name is not important, they may as well change it if only to get that 
magician off their backs.

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Re: [newbie] Mandriva

2005-04-06 Thread Ivo Perich
I think Mandriva is awful... 

El Martes, 5 de Abril de 2005 11:57, JR escribió:
 On Tuesday 05 April 2005 01:45 pm, Josenildo Marques wrote:
  It seems our favourite distro is going to change its name

 snip
 That would be a pity, I always thought Mandrake was a great name. And the
 two suggested ones are awful (maybe it's my Irish accent?).

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Re: [newbie] Mandriva

2005-04-05 Thread Greg Meyer
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 08:45 am, Josenildo Marques wrote:
 And the latest newsletter says Mandrake is going to incorporate
 elements of technology from Conectiva, particularly in the area of the
 smart package management software and some of Conectiva's kernel
 enhancements.
 I think that means apt-get...

No, that means the SMART package manager.  SMART is a technology that does 
better dependency checking than urpmi or apt-get, and is package manager 
agnostic, so it can be used with urpmi or apt-get.  In fact, it is already in 
contrib.

Probably what will happen, based on the discussions going on on the Cooker ML, 
is that some of the cool elements of SMART will be integrated into urpmi 
somehow.  But no one thinks urpmi will be ditched for apt-get, especially 
since apt4rpm is, as I understand it, unmaintained.
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Re: [newbie] Mandriva

2005-04-05 Thread Tom
Josenildo Marques wrote:
It seems our favourite distro is going to change its name to _Mandriva_
(i.e., Mandrake+Conectiva), according to an article I have just read.
The article says Mandrake bought the domains Mandriva.com and
Mandriva.net. Conectiva bought the domain mandriva.com.br
whois mandriva.com
whois mantiva.com
(might need to 'urpmi whois' first )
   IRRC, there might've one or two others also.  Speculation was 
that Mandrake registered those domains, shortly after the merger, on 
a just in case basis.  Search 'mandriva' on a cooker ML archive to 
get the whole discussion. IIRC, Mantiva was the favorite.
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker

And the latest newsletter says Mandrake is going to incorporate
elements of technology from Conectiva, particularly in the area of the
smart package management software and some of Conectiva's kernel
enhancements.
I think that means apt-get...
  Greg already did a good job of answering this, but you could 
also search cooker to see this discussion.   And visit
http://linux-br.conectiva.com.br/~niemeyer/smart/doc/README.html
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Re: [newbie] Mandriva

2005-04-05 Thread JR
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 01:45 pm, Josenildo Marques wrote:
 It seems our favourite distro is going to change its name 
snip
That would be a pity, I always thought Mandrake was a great name. And the two 
suggested ones are awful (maybe it's my Irish accent?).

Jarlath


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