Re: [newbie] Paraniod - start worrying

2003-08-29 Thread Michael Adams
> 
> The question wasn't whether there was a virus/worm/trojan problem
> similar to Windoze, the OP was asking if there was any indication of a
> worm infecting linux, which there clearly is.
> 
> t

Sorry, as the original poster, i was presenting what i saw as an oddity, no more. I 
watch the given website for upcoming virus threats and this was posted as an upgraded 
one. I warned paranoids to hide under the blanket with my unclear heading. I beleive 
the perceived "threat" is a tool that could be misused to enable DOS attacks from 
linux.

As to the number and range of linux effecting threats:
http://www.viruslist.com/eng/viruslistfind.html?rub4=001&findWhere=&findTxt=linux&x=30&y=14

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Re: [newbie] Paraniod - start worrying

2003-08-28 Thread Todd Slater
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 06:36:58PM +1000, Graham Banks wrote:
> Todd Slater wrote:
> >On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 11:35:34PM -0400, Todd Slater wrote:
> >
> >>On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 09:26:17PM -0500, Dennis Myers wrote:
> >>
> >>>horse to water... Anyone seen any other indications that 
> >>>somebody thinks one of the virus or worms was getting into linux?
> >>
> >>Wasn't there a worm recently that exploited mySQL?
> >>
> >>Todd
> >
> >
> >This is what I was thinking of:
> >http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/linux.slapper.worm.html

> wot only 3,500+ *nix boxes out of 20+ million!
> 
> how many million win$ux boxes are affected by the myriad of nasties
> daily encountered when you run the demon OS?
> 
> Peleeease!

The question wasn't whether there was a virus/worm/trojan problem
similar to Windoze, the OP was asking if there was any indication of a
worm infecting linux, which there clearly is.

t

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Re: [newbie] Paraniod - start worrying

2003-08-28 Thread Graham Banks
Todd Slater wrote:
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 11:35:34PM -0400, Todd Slater wrote:

On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 09:26:17PM -0500, Dennis Myers wrote:

horse to water... Anyone seen any other indications that somebody 
thinks one of the virus or worms was getting into linux?
Wasn't there a worm recently that exploited mySQL?

Todd


This is what I was thinking of:
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/linux.slapper.worm.html




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wot only 3,500+ *nix boxes out of 20+ million!

how many million win$ux boxes are affected by the myriad of nasties
daily encountered when you run the demon OS?
Peleeease!

I am constantly asked to help people rid their Redmond based
evil-OS systems of trojans/worms/virii and spyware.
I, like many other responsible nix users, run a firewall, update 
regularly to
prevent intrusions and maintain the security of my *nix boxes and run a
virus checker to make sure I don't pass on any win$ux nasties to other 
win$ux
users I correspond with.

I have been running *nix systems for 2 years now and never have I been 
unable
to use my systems because of trojans/worms/virii and spyware problems.

My house recently became an "MS OS" free site with 3 boxes running Mdk9.1
and 1 box running MDK9.2 cooker.
Shite!! that means I  owe SCO heaps of pesos! LAUGH LAUGH LAUGH
(which they can claim from my estate - behind all of my other creditors).
In the last week there are now 3 more *nix converts in my circle of 
aquaintences
who are amazed that they no longer have continual problems with 
intrusions to their
boxes.

- vive la penguinistas!!

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Re: [newbie] Paraniod - start worrying

2003-08-28 Thread Michael Adams
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 21:26:17 -0500
Dennis Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tuesday 26 August 2003 02:54 pm, Michael Adams wrote:
> > Any paranoids out there? Start worrying!
> >
> > http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_100558.htm
> >
> > The rest of us will read this, shrug, and carry on as per normal aware that
> > slim threats do exist on linux. No flames for scare mongering please. I
> > thought it was an acceptable oddity, no more!
> I read it and shrugged, but went looking for it anyway. Not found. One of the 
> IT guys at work who only knows windows told me that the worms had some effect 
> on linux, I said "I don't think so" and he replied that Symantec had shown 
> one of them effecting linux. So I went looking and all that came up was the 
> drdos, which is old and is part of the chkrootkit test.  I can't convince him 
> that it was not a problem cause Symantec said it was. Oh well, you can lead a 
> horse to water... Anyone seen any other indications that somebody 
> thinks one of the virus or worms was getting into linux?

Yes worms have an effect on linux. The slow down the network. Beat their heads against 
the firewalls and fill your logs with dross.

I think from reading this that this tool is seen as a threat because it can be used 
for DOS attacks. Not because it affects linux, although the host may be slowed sending 
out packets ;)

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Re: [newbie] Paraniod - start worrying

2003-08-27 Thread Todd Slater
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 11:35:34PM -0400, Todd Slater wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 09:26:17PM -0500, Dennis Myers wrote:
> > horse to water... Anyone seen any other indications that somebody 
> > thinks one of the virus or worms was getting into linux?
> 
> Wasn't there a worm recently that exploited mySQL?
> 
> Todd

This is what I was thinking of:
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/linux.slapper.worm.html

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Re: [newbie] Paraniod - start worrying

2003-08-27 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 13:35, Todd Slater wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 09:26:17PM -0500, Dennis Myers wrote:
> > horse to water... Anyone seen any other indications that somebody 
> > thinks one of the virus or worms was getting into linux?
> 
> Wasn't there a worm recently that exploited mySQL?
> 
> Todd

Think his name was Tharpe...

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Re: [newbie] Paraniod - start worrying

2003-08-27 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 12:26, Dennis Myers wrote:
>  Anyone seen any other indications that somebody 
> thinks one of the virus or worms was getting into linux?

JoeHill/Haywiremac uses linux - is that the same thing?

He's a worm and he's into linux (bad bad joke)(big big grin)
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Re: [newbie] Paraniod - start worrying

2003-08-27 Thread Todd Slater
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 09:26:17PM -0500, Dennis Myers wrote:
> horse to water... Anyone seen any other indications that somebody 
> thinks one of the virus or worms was getting into linux?

Wasn't there a worm recently that exploited mySQL?

Todd

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Re: [newbie] Paraniod - start worrying

2003-08-27 Thread Dennis Myers
On Tuesday 26 August 2003 02:54 pm, Michael Adams wrote:
> Any paranoids out there? Start worrying!
>
> http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_100558.htm
>
> The rest of us will read this, shrug, and carry on as per normal aware that
> slim threats do exist on linux. No flames for scare mongering please. I
> thought it was an acceptable oddity, no more!
I read it and shrugged, but went looking for it anyway. Not found. One of the 
IT guys at work who only knows windows told me that the worms had some effect 
on linux, I said "I don't think so" and he replied that Symantec had shown 
one of them effecting linux. So I went looking and all that came up was the 
drdos, which is old and is part of the chkrootkit test.  I can't convince him 
that it was not a problem cause Symantec said it was. Oh well, you can lead a 
horse to water... Anyone seen any other indications that somebody 
thinks one of the virus or worms was getting into linux?
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