Re: [newbie] Toshiba laptop installation problems

2003-01-26 Thread Marc Oestreicher
On Thu, 23 Jan 2003 12:08:08 +
Benjamin Jeeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The L99 99 99 99 99 99 might be lilo or what you use as a boot manager
> Have you try http://www.linux-laptop.net to see if anyone has had this problem 
> to.
> 


Thanks Ben
   It was the boot mananger, it was a easy fix.
 
Marc



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Re: RE: [newbie] Toshiba Laptop installation ?

2003-01-26 Thread Marc
 

1/24/03 11:06:53 AM, "Adolfo Bello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark 
Weaver
>> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 10:58 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: [newbie] Toshiba Laptop installation ?
>> 
>> 
>> H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
>> > On Wednesday 22 January 2003 21:05, Marc wrote:
>> > 
>> >>snip<
>> >>   When it locks up I am unable to use the mouse and there is 
no
>> >>hard drive activity and as of yet I have founnd no keyboard
>> >>commands that work. The display stays frozen.and I am unable 
to do
>> >>anything but a hard shutdown but then that goes back to the
>> >>subject of the SysReq key.
>Sorry I am late to this thread.
>
>I had the same sort of problem in my Toshiba laptop and it turned 
out
>to be the NIC driver.
>
>Mandrake picked mine as eepro100. After I reset it to e100 my 
computer
>started to work just fine.
>
>HTH
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> 

  Thanks for the help but I have sort of bypassed the problem for 
now, I have been sort of annoyed with the slow preformance of this 
laptop for a long time and right after the problems installing 
linux I ran accross a SUPER deal on a used IBM that runs well over 
twice as fast as the old toshiba but it has a much smaller hard 
drive so when it arrives I ( Tuesday afternoon ) I am going to do 
a HDD swap and try again on the new laptop. I will probably 
install the old toshiba in my business as a shipping computer 
where I will need winblows to run UPS world ship software. As soon 
as UPS comes out with software that will run in linux and or if I 
can get world ship to run in wine the battle may be on again.


Thanks 
Marc





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Re: [newbie] Toshiba Laptop installation ?

2003-01-24 Thread Mark Weaver
H.J.Bathoorn wrote:

On Wednesday 22 January 2003 21:05, Marc wrote:


snip<
  When it locks up I am unable to use the mouse and there is no
hard drive activity and as of yet I have founnd no keyboard
commands that work. The display stays frozen.and I am unable to do
anything but a hard shutdown but then that goes back to the
subject of the SysReq key.

   Marc



Have you tried different windowmanagers?

I've had laptops with lower specs running 9.0 (well it wasn't fast!) just NOT 
using KDE or Gnome.
Give Icewm a try or windowmaker to see if that gives any relief --it should.

Aside from that: turn off as many services at boot time as you can. daemons 
like crond an atd use up quite a bit of memory when they're at work. And 
there's more, a lot more depending what use you want to put the laptop to=:o)

Also: boot into text first (init 3) and later into X with the command startx.
That way you'll have the opportunity to finetune your system without it 
locking on you.

With a P133 it's not going to be a mean and lean machine but with 80M it 
should be useable.
Hang in there we'll get you going:o)

Good Luck,
HarM

Ben,

You may also want to take a look at Fluxbox. It's even lighter then 
IceWM. I'm using that Window Manager exclusively on a Toshiba Protege 
with only 64MB of RAM and I've got no complaints at all.

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Re: [newbie] Toshiba laptop installation problems

2003-01-23 Thread Benjamin Jeeves
The L99 99 99 99 99 99 might be lilo or what you use as a boot manager
Have you try http://www.linux-laptop.net to see if anyone has had this problem 
to.

On Thursday 23 Jan 2003 4:25 am, Marc Oestreicher wrote:
> I submitted a question to the list earyler today, THANKS for the
> helpfull replies folks.  However the plot now thickens.
>
>   After many attempts I could still not get the laptop to run more than a
> couple of miniuts in 9.0 although earyler in the day it had done ok in
> windoze. I finnally gave up and tried to install 8.1 , after I got a bit
> better than half way done it had a problem reading reading the CD, after a
> couple attempts at cleaning the cd the cd drive refused to open and I
> stoped the installation and went to reboot to windoze and was met with new
> fun and games.
>
>   I got the same old message as always reading Toshiba corp bla bla bla
> Memory initalize 81664 KB followed by
>
>  L99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 , about a half screen of this stuff and then
> it refused to proceed any further with the boot process.
>
>   I have never seen a screen like this but my best guess is some bad memory
> may have caused the problems earyler with 9.0 and perhaps the installation
> of 8.1
>
>   Does this sound about right to you folks? Do I have a bad stick of
> memory?
>
>Sorry I did not quote any of the old message but I am afraid all that
> email is stuck in the old laptop.
>
> Thanks
> Marc



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Re: [newbie] Toshiba Laptop installation ?

2003-01-22 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Wednesday 22 January 2003 21:05, Marc wrote:
>snip<
>When it locks up I am unable to use the mouse and there is no
> hard drive activity and as of yet I have founnd no keyboard
> commands that work. The display stays frozen.and I am unable to do
> anything but a hard shutdown but then that goes back to the
> subject of the SysReq key.
>
> Marc

Have you tried different windowmanagers?

I've had laptops with lower specs running 9.0 (well it wasn't fast!) just NOT 
using KDE or Gnome.
Give Icewm a try or windowmaker to see if that gives any relief --it should.

Aside from that: turn off as many services at boot time as you can. daemons 
like crond an atd use up quite a bit of memory when they're at work. And 
there's more, a lot more depending what use you want to put the laptop to=:o)

Also: boot into text first (init 3) and later into X with the command startx.
That way you'll have the opportunity to finetune your system without it 
locking on you.

With a P133 it's not going to be a mean and lean machine but with 80M it 
should be useable.
Hang in there we'll get you going:o)

Good Luck,
HarM





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Re: [newbie] Toshiba Laptop installation ?

2003-01-22 Thread Benjamin Jeeves
On Wednesday 22 Jan 2003 9:05 pm, Marc wrote:
> 1/22/03 1:17:40 PM, Benjamin Jeeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> >On Wednesday 22 Jan 2003 7:03 pm, Marc wrote:
> >>I just installed 9.0 on a old toshiba tecra 510cdt laptop
> >> 133mhz P1 20GB HDD 80MB ram  It acts like way too much
>
> operating
>
> >> system for this old dog. It is Slow and instable to say the
> >> least.  Almost impossible to go more than a miniute or 2 with
>
> out
>
> >> a lockup!!
> >>Do you folks think 8.1 or 8.2 would run better? Or should I
>
> go
>
> >> back to a 7.x distro?
> >>I have not have not had much first hand experance with
> >> Mandrakes older distros so Or these older machines so I thought
>
> I
>
> >> would ask some of you that have been around the Linux world a
>
> bit
>
> >> longer than myself for some words of wisdom on witch one would
>
> be
>
> >> best.
> >>Will shutting off some startup services help and if so witch
> >> ones?  Also this keyboard does not have a SysReq button. is it
> >> possible to configure another button to take it's place? With
>
> all
>
> >> the lockups the SysReq button seems to be a must.
> >>
> >>I better stop This seems like too many questions for 1
>
> simple
>
> >> message.
> >>
> >>I hate to addmit it but winblows 98 actually ran much better
>
> on
>
> >> this old dog but I guess 9.1 is a lot more operating system.
>
> The
>
> >> only good part is I think if I went to install microshafts
>
> latest
>
> >> and so called greatest  OS on this old laptop I probably would
>
> not
>
> >> have got near this far.
> >>
> >>Thanks in advance for any advise
> >>
> >> Marc
> >
> >What do you mean it locks up?
> >The desktop lockup if so it might be the X-Server
>
>When it locks up I am unable to use the mouse and there is no
> hard drive activity and as of yet I have founnd no keyboard
> commands that work. The display stays frozen.and I am unable to do
> anything but a hard shutdown but then that goes back to the
> subject of the SysReq key.
>
> Marc

Sounds likey a problem I had with redhat 8.0  and XFree86 4.* what version of 
XFree86 are you running on the laptop try a older version of XFree86 it 
worked for me on redhat



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Re: [newbie] Toshiba Laptop installation ?

2003-01-22 Thread Marc
1/22/03 1:17:40 PM, Benjamin Jeeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

>On Wednesday 22 Jan 2003 7:03 pm, Marc wrote:
>>I just installed 9.0 on a old toshiba tecra 510cdt laptop
>> 133mhz P1 20GB HDD 80MB ram  It acts like way too much 
operating
>> system for this old dog. It is Slow and instable to say the
>> least.  Almost impossible to go more than a miniute or 2 with 
out
>> a lockup!!
>>Do you folks think 8.1 or 8.2 would run better? Or should I 
go
>> back to a 7.x distro?
>>I have not have not had much first hand experance with
>> Mandrakes older distros so Or these older machines so I thought 
I
>> would ask some of you that have been around the Linux world a 
bit
>> longer than myself for some words of wisdom on witch one would 
be
>> best.
>>Will shutting off some startup services help and if so witch
>> ones?  Also this keyboard does not have a SysReq button. is it
>> possible to configure another button to take it's place? With 
all
>> the lockups the SysReq button seems to be a must.
>>
>>I better stop This seems like too many questions for 1 
simple
>> message.
>>
>>I hate to addmit it but winblows 98 actually ran much better 
on
>> this old dog but I guess 9.1 is a lot more operating system. 
The
>> only good part is I think if I went to install microshafts 
latest
>> and so called greatest  OS on this old laptop I probably would 
not
>> have got near this far.
>>
>>Thanks in advance for any advise
>>
>> Marc
>
>What do you mean it locks up?
>The desktop lockup if so it might be the X-Server
>
>
>
   When it locks up I am unable to use the mouse and there is no 
hard drive activity and as of yet I have founnd no keyboard 
commands that work. The display stays frozen.and I am unable to do 
anything but a hard shutdown but then that goes back to the 
subject of the SysReq key.

Marc




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Re: [newbie] Toshiba Laptop installation ?

2003-01-22 Thread Benjamin Jeeves
On Wednesday 22 Jan 2003 7:03 pm, Marc wrote:
>I just installed 9.0 on a old toshiba tecra 510cdt laptop
> 133mhz P1 20GB HDD 80MB ram  It acts like way too much operating
> system for this old dog. It is Slow and instable to say the
> least.  Almost impossible to go more than a miniute or 2 with out
> a lockup!!
>Do you folks think 8.1 or 8.2 would run better? Or should I go
> back to a 7.x distro?
>I have not have not had much first hand experance with
> Mandrakes older distros so Or these older machines so I thought I
> would ask some of you that have been around the Linux world a bit
> longer than myself for some words of wisdom on witch one would be
> best.
>Will shutting off some startup services help and if so witch
> ones?  Also this keyboard does not have a SysReq button. is it
> possible to configure another button to take it's place? With all
> the lockups the SysReq button seems to be a must.
>
>I better stop This seems like too many questions for 1 simple
> message.
>
>I hate to addmit it but winblows 98 actually ran much better on
> this old dog but I guess 9.1 is a lot more operating system. The
> only good part is I think if I went to install microshafts latest
> and so called greatest  OS on this old laptop I probably would not
> have got near this far.
>
>Thanks in advance for any advise
>
> Marc

What do you mean it locks up?
The desktop lockup if so it might be the X-Server



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