Re: [newbie] Where's Todd Lyons when I need him? and NEW E-MAILLIST....
Mike, Thanks for that courteous reply. It seems to me the mailing list just gets damaged, the way it was hijacked pretty well completely for a day, for an interminable bad-tempered spat, involving people who are normally among the most helpful contributors. I can understand the person who wrote he was unsubscribing; and I think any newly subscribed newbies coming in search of information and help must have been regretting they'd had anything to do with Linux Mandrake. I'd beg guys not to destroy the role of the Newbie Mailing List, which is one of the most valuable things about Mandrake, and to respect the OT - take squabbles elsewhere, before they start getting out of hand. There. That's my 2 pennys/cents/centimes worth :-) DougB On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 17:56, MWafkowski wrote: Doug - I wasn't joking...I was serious about taking this stuff to the OT list. One begins to think that the list is made up of all the loudmouths (like myself) and then other people chime in and say hello, I belong to this list for other reasons and you think, well, time to move it to where it belongs 8^) Peace, Mike Wafkowski - Original Message - From: Douglas Bainbridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Beginners' Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Where's Todd Lyons when I need him? Good for you, Carroll! re: MRW - I'm with momma :-) DougB On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 02:11, Carroll Grigsby wrote: I joined this list several years ago because I needed all the help with Linux that I could get (still do), and this seemed like the best place to get it. I was right -- good advice, good people. As an unexpected bonus, I've made a lot of friends here, too. It's my belief that this list comes as close to being a genuine community as anything that I've seen on the web. I did NOT join this list to read great gobs of illiterate political ravings by otherwise very intelligent and likeable people who sadly seem to periodically lose all self control, indulging in the sort of shouting and name calling that would get any of my grandchildren an old-fashioned ass-chewing along with a good solid spanking. Look, if I want to read and discuss political matters, I know lots of places to go for that. If I want to listen to the kind of prattle that I've had to weigh through today, I can go down to the local jail and listen to the buffoons in the drunk tank. In short, as political analysts/proponents, you guys don't hack it. Cease and desist. Why the reference to Todd Lyons? Well, late last year one of these episodes broke out on the expert list. It got hot and heavy. Todd stepped in, and sent an off-list mail to all of those who had participated in the discussion that anyone who continued to post to the thread would be banished. End of discussion. FWIW, some of those guys have not been heard from since. On the good side, the various OT lists were formed in response to that action. And please don't tell me about filters -- why the hell should I have to do that to kill the drivel that other people are posting? (Nasty letter to follow.) -- cmg __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Where's Todd Lyons when I need him?
Good for you, Carroll! re: MRW - I'm with momma :-) DougB On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 02:11, Carroll Grigsby wrote: I joined this list several years ago because I needed all the help with Linux that I could get (still do), and this seemed like the best place to get it. I was right -- good advice, good people. As an unexpected bonus, I've made a lot of friends here, too. It's my belief that this list comes as close to being a genuine community as anything that I've seen on the web. I did NOT join this list to read great gobs of illiterate political ravings by otherwise very intelligent and likeable people who sadly seem to periodically lose all self control, indulging in the sort of shouting and name calling that would get any of my grandchildren an old-fashioned ass-chewing along with a good solid spanking. Look, if I want to read and discuss political matters, I know lots of places to go for that. If I want to listen to the kind of prattle that I've had to weigh through today, I can go down to the local jail and listen to the buffoons in the drunk tank. In short, as political analysts/proponents, you guys don't hack it. Cease and desist. Why the reference to Todd Lyons? Well, late last year one of these episodes broke out on the expert list. It got hot and heavy. Todd stepped in, and sent an off-list mail to all of those who had participated in the discussion that anyone who continued to post to the thread would be banished. End of discussion. FWIW, some of those guys have not been heard from since. On the good side, the various OT lists were formed in response to that action. And please don't tell me about filters -- why the hell should I have to do that to kill the drivel that other people are posting? (Nasty letter to follow.) -- cmg __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Where's Todd Lyons when I need him?
Doug - I wasn't joking...I was serious about taking this stuff to the OT list. One begins to think that the list is made up of all the loudmouths (like myself) and then other people chime in and say hello, I belong to this list for other reasons and you think, well, time to move it to where it belongs 8^) Peace, Mike Wafkowski - Original Message - From: Douglas Bainbridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Beginners' Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Where's Todd Lyons when I need him? Good for you, Carroll! re: MRW - I'm with momma :-) DougB On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 02:11, Carroll Grigsby wrote: I joined this list several years ago because I needed all the help with Linux that I could get (still do), and this seemed like the best place to get it. I was right -- good advice, good people. As an unexpected bonus, I've made a lot of friends here, too. It's my belief that this list comes as close to being a genuine community as anything that I've seen on the web. I did NOT join this list to read great gobs of illiterate political ravings by otherwise very intelligent and likeable people who sadly seem to periodically lose all self control, indulging in the sort of shouting and name calling that would get any of my grandchildren an old-fashioned ass-chewing along with a good solid spanking. Look, if I want to read and discuss political matters, I know lots of places to go for that. If I want to listen to the kind of prattle that I've had to weigh through today, I can go down to the local jail and listen to the buffoons in the drunk tank. In short, as political analysts/proponents, you guys don't hack it. Cease and desist. Why the reference to Todd Lyons? Well, late last year one of these episodes broke out on the expert list. It got hot and heavy. Todd stepped in, and sent an off-list mail to all of those who had participated in the discussion that anyone who continued to post to the thread would be banished. End of discussion. FWIW, some of those guys have not been heard from since. On the good side, the various OT lists were formed in response to that action. And please don't tell me about filters -- why the hell should I have to do that to kill the drivel that other people are posting? (Nasty letter to follow.) -- cmg __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Where's Todd Lyons when I need him?
On Wed, 9 Jul 2003 21:11:10 -0400 Carroll Grigsby [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: And please don't tell me about filters -- why the hell should I have to do that to kill the drivel that other people are posting? Point taken. Only OT or offlist for me from now on. -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net 21:22:57 up 15 days, 3:04, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.11, 0.07 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Where's Todd Lyons when I need him?
OK, jeee. Evertybody to OT or mom is going to whip us. see ya there. MRW - Original Message - From: Carroll Grigsby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:11 PM Subject: [newbie] Where's Todd Lyons when I need him? I joined this list several years ago because I needed all the help with Linux that I could get (still do), and this seemed like the best place to get it. I was right -- good advice, good people. As an unexpected bonus, I've made a lot of friends here, too. It's my belief that this list comes as close to being a genuine community as anything that I've seen on the web. I did NOT join this list to read great gobs of illiterate political ravings by otherwise very intelligent and likeable people who sadly seem to periodically lose all self control, indulging in the sort of shouting and name calling that would get any of my grandchildren an old-fashioned ass-chewing along with a good solid spanking. Look, if I want to read and discuss political matters, I know lots of places to go for that. If I want to listen to the kind of prattle that I've had to weigh through today, I can go down to the local jail and listen to the buffoons in the drunk tank. In short, as political analysts/proponents, you guys don't hack it. Cease and desist. Why the reference to Todd Lyons? Well, late last year one of these episodes broke out on the expert list. It got hot and heavy. Todd stepped in, and sent an off-list mail to all of those who had participated in the discussion that anyone who continued to post to the thread would be banished. End of discussion. FWIW, some of those guys have not been heard from since. On the good side, the various OT lists were formed in response to that action. And please don't tell me about filters -- why the hell should I have to do that to kill the drivel that other people are posting? (Nasty letter to follow.) -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
