Re: [newbie] kdeinit and starting X
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On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 16:56:19 + (GMT)
J.I. Evers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-What exactly does startx do?
it starts your default desktop
essentialy what it dows is start the X server and run ~/.xinitrc
if ~/.xinitrc does not exist it starts /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
in mandrake all /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc does is run another script
/etc/X11/Xsession Xsession starts the firsttime wizard if its the first
time to run X otherwise it starts the desktop mentioned in ~/.desktop or
the default system desktop /etc/sysconfig/desktop
if all this fails it falls down to some hardcoded defaults (like trying
icewm, then trying twm, then just opening a terminal etc.)
of course these scripts do more (like set your default browser) you'll
need to read if you really want to know the gory details.
-How else can I start the x server?
you could use xinit
xinit starts an X server and runs the command you pass it (or ~/.xinitrc
if none exist).
xinit /usr/bin/pekwm
starts an X server with pekwm as the session manager, if pekwm quits the
X server closed.
or you could do it the very hard way and start the X server on your own
X
then attach some client t it,
rxvt -display :0
or something like that, I never tried it.
-What might be the problem with kdeinit?
-How would I start a different window manager (gnome, pekwm, icewm,
...)?-What does startkde, startgnome and starticewm do?
well best way to start wm's Mandrake knows about (the system knows about
a wm if it has an entry in /etc/X11/wmsession.d/) is to install the
package Xtart then run
Xtart
however you could use the xinit command to start any X session, you
could pass it a wm or even just a single X client (I run wine this way).
AFAIK startkde and startgnome are scripts that setup ad start the DE's
for you you can use these with xinit
xinit `which startkde`
cheers,
Alaa
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Re: [newbie] kdeinit and starting X
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On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 16:56:19 + (GMT)
J.I. Evers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-What exactly does startx do?
it starts your default desktop
essentialy what it dows is start the X server and run ~/.xinitrc
if ~/.xinitrc does not exist it starts /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
in mandrake all /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc does is run another script
/etc/X11/Xsession Xsession starts the firsttime wizard if its the first
time to run X otherwise it starts the desktop mentioned in ~/.desktop or
the default system desktop /etc/sysconfig/desktop
if all this fails it falls down to some hardcoded defaults (like trying
icewm, then trying twm, then just opening a terminal etc.)
of course these scripts do more (like set your default browser) you'll
need to read if you really want to know the gory details.
-How else can I start the x server?
you could use xinit
xinit starts an X server and runs the command you pass it (or ~/.xinitrc
if none exist).
xinit /usr/bin/pekwm
starts an X server with pekwm as the session manager, if pekwm quits the
X server closed.
or you could do it the very hard way and start the X server on your own
X
then attach some client t it,
rxvt -display :0
or something like that, I never tried it.
-What might be the problem with kdeinit?
-How would I start a different window manager (gnome, pekwm, icewm,
...)?-What does startkde, startgnome and starticewm do?
well best way to start wm's Mandrake knows about (the system knows about
a wm if it has an entry in /etc/X11/wmsession.d/) is to install the
package Xtart then run
Xtart
however you could use the xinit command to start any X session, you
could pass it a wm or even just a single X client (I run wine this way).
AFAIK startkde and startgnome are scripts that setup ad start the DE's
for you you can use these with xinit
xinit `which startkde`
cheers,
Alaa
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Re: [newbie] kdeinit and starting X
Awesome, thanks for such a great summary. Little by little I'm getting things how I want them. Job On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 11:35:05 +0200 Alaa The Great [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 16:56:19 + (GMT) J.I. Evers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -What exactly does startx do? it starts your default desktop essentialy what it dows is start the X server and run ~/.xinitrc if ~/.xinitrc does not exist it starts /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc in mandrake all /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc does is run another script /etc/X11/Xsession Xsession starts the firsttime wizard if its the first time to run X otherwise it starts the desktop mentioned in ~/.desktop or the default system desktop /etc/sysconfig/desktop if all this fails it falls down to some hardcoded defaults (like trying icewm, then trying twm, then just opening a terminal etc.) of course these scripts do more (like set your default browser) you'll need to read if you really want to know the gory details. -How else can I start the x server? you could use xinit xinit starts an X server and runs the command you pass it (or ~/.xinitrc if none exist). xinit /usr/bin/pekwm starts an X server with pekwm as the session manager, if pekwm quits the X server closed. or you could do it the very hard way and start the X server on your own X then attach some client t it, rxvt -display :0 or something like that, I never tried it. -What might be the problem with kdeinit? -How would I start a different window manager (gnome, pekwm, icewm, ...)?-What does startkde, startgnome and starticewm do? well best way to start wm's Mandrake knows about (the system knows about a wm if it has an entry in /etc/X11/wmsession.d/) is to install the package Xtart then run Xtart however you could use the xinit command to start any X session, you could pass it a wm or even just a single X client (I run wine this way). AFAIK startkde and startgnome are scripts that setup ad start the DE's for you you can use these with xinit xinit `which startkde` cheers, Alaa -- Job Evers Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] kdeinit and starting X
J.I. Evers wrote: I upgraded my XFree86 to 4.4.0 since it claimed to have some improvements for my graphics controller. I decided to be ambitious and compile from source (and learned how to use CVS in the process). It seemed the installation went okay, except now something involving kdeinit is broken. When I do startx at the command prompt, x starts and after a couple of seconds an error window pops up and says Could not start kdeinit. Check your installation. And now my collection of questions: -What exactly does startx do? -How else can I start the x server? -What might be the problem with kdeinit? -How would I start a different window manager (gnome, pekwm, icewm, ...)? -What does startkde, startgnome and starticewm do? These are probably RTFM questions, but I can't seem to find the right manual. Until next time, I will be joyously messing with my computer using the CLI and browsing the web with links! Cheers, Job - Job Evers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christ's College University of Cambridge Well I've learned through my experiences not to compile things on my own. =). I suggest just urpmi'ing it. --Marc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] kdeinit and starting X
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 16:43:45 -0500 Marc Resnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: J.I. Evers wrote: I upgraded my XFree86 to 4.4.0 since it claimed to have some improvements for my graphics controller. I decided to be ambitious and compile from source (and learned how to use CVS in the process). It seemed the installation went okay, except now something involving kdeinit is broken. When I do startx at the command prompt, x starts and after a couple of seconds an error window pops up and says Could not start kdeinit. Check your installation. And now my collection of questions: -What exactly does startx do? -How else can I start the x server? -What might be the problem with kdeinit? -How would I start a different window manager (gnome, pekwm, icewm, ...)?-What does startkde, startgnome and starticewm do? These are probably RTFM questions, but I can't seem to find the right manual. Until next time, I will be joyously messing with my computer using the CLI and browsing the web with links! Cheers, Job Well I've learned through my experiences not to compile things on my own. =). I suggest just urpmi'ing it. --Marc It seems that the installation generally went okay. By pure dumb luck I was able to get 'gdm' to work and was able to log into gnome, which is what I am currently using. Although I can use X now, I am still curious as to the answers of my previous questions. For example, I would like to try pekwm, expecially after JoeHill has been raving about it, but I have no idea how to get it started. Happy St. Patrick's Day -- Job Evers Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
