[Newbie]problem
If i understand correctly, the 'driver' parameter has to correspond to a loaded module. For svga, how is the name of that module ? (can't find it) and for vesa ? and for vga ? Other problem, on one computer i have a Geforce3. I'm installing the kernel and glx part of the nvidia driver, but at the kernel part it stops at ld : apparently, when looking for dependencies for the NVDriver module, it finds a whole lot of unreferenced symbols. How to solve that ? i did a grep of some of these symbols in my directory tree and found them in the includes, which should make them available to access, no ? Thanks, *** This email and any accompanying files are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, copy or disclose the content. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender by return email and delete this message. Thankyou for your co-operation. * ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
[Newbie]Intel 845G...
Hi! I'm trying to get a Dell Optiplex 260 with the intel 845G graphics chip running. I've done this by downloading the latest sourcecode using CVS and built it. Having installed it and running 'XFree86 -configure' it seems to find my video card and screen but when trying to run 'XFree86 -xf86configfile file' it replies with showing 'Can not display this video mode", any ideas? Joa ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]Re: Newbie digest, Vol 1 #1103 - 14 msgs
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Re: [Newbie]memory useage of X
This is unlikely as we are running the same top version. also the difference in memeory useage is considerably more then the meagre 32mb on my graphics card. also as i am running processes large enough to fill memory, i am overrunning the system memory when i need more than the remaining 3/4 of my system memory. Is there some optimisation of x memory useage or is this a feature of redhat vs mandrake? ( as i need to reinstall my o.s. it would be useful to know as whilst i am a redhat man if switching to mandrake will improve my memory performance which is key to my work it would be useful to know now) cheers, jason --__--__-- Message: 20 Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:00:04 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Newbie]memory useage of X From: Adam Luter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jason, You are probably using a tool (e.g. top) that is including the memory onboard the video card, as well as the system memory. -Gryn (Adam Luter) On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 05:27:25PM +, Jason RILEY wrote: > Hi, > > I've always experienced a massive overuse of memory by X (c 120M ram) > but recently a freind running xfree4.2 on mandrake found his usage on > upgrading to 4.2 was reduced to c 20M. > Thinking ti save memory i also upgraded to xf86 v4.2, however i still > use 120M RAM is there an easy way to fix this problem? > > cheers, > Jason > > ___ > Newbie mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: > http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie --__--__-- ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie End of Newbie Digest -- -- Jason Riley PhD Student Computer Science Department University College London Telephone: ucl: 3462 Gower Street external: +44 (0)20 7679 3462 London WC1E 6BT WebPage: http://www.cs.ucl.ac.uk/staff/J.Riley UK --
Re: [Newbie]memory useage of X
Lionel, It is true that Linux (and most Unix) follow a "full" memory model. Which means all memory is used for either user programs/libraries or disk cache. But I -think- the problem here is that X also uses video memory. And this extra memory is often reported alongside regular memory, especially in programs such as top: Virtual Resource Share X: 778521168 1000 xfs-xtt: 15500 160 160 prime-net: 10580 1024010240 The first column is -all- memory, main or otherwise. The second is total real (i.e. main) memory. The last is memory used from the executable residing in memory; that is both a copy of the executable and also its libraries. At least, these interpetations are the best I can manage -- but I'm sure I'm wrong: The last example was prime-net, which is small code but allocates alot to solve a long math problem. So share should not be 10240, but closer to 240. But xfs-xtt at least makes sense since it should use mostly video memory to store it's font's. If you are wondering why my X is so small it is because I am only running one xterm and a minimal window manager. If, for example I load mozilla, my memory jumps up to Res:3096. One last note, I -am- certain about this: Virt >= Res >= Share and that most of the time Virt ~= Res ~= Share, that is they are, for the most of time, very close. Hope that helps, Gryn On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 11:51:40PM -0800, Lionel Lecoq wrote: > See the archives of this list:It seems that linux resp. X uses ALL memory available >in order to > optimise resource utilisation (the idea being that available RAM should not remain >unused) > At least this is what I have understood, anyone knowing better correct me... > Lionel ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]memory useage of X
Don't run X. Or, don't run a "desktop" (e.g. Gnome, KDE). Lastly use a low footprint window manager (e.g. blackbox, ratpoison). Hope that helps :) , Gryn (Adam Luter) On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 02:35:39PM +, Jason Riley wrote: > This is unlikely as we are running the same top version. also the difference in >memeory useage is considerably more then the meagre 32mb on > my graphics card. > also as i am running processes large enough to fill memory, i am overrunning the >system memory when i need more than the remaining 3/4 of my system memory. > > Is there some optimisation of x memory useage or is this a feature of redhat vs >mandrake? ( as i need to reinstall my o.s. it would be useful to know as whilst i am >a redhat man > if switching to mandrake will improve my memory performance which is key to my work >it would be useful to know now) > > cheers, > jason ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]memory useage of X
On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Jason Riley wrote: > This is unlikely as we are running the same top version. also the > difference in memeory useage is considerably more then the meagre 32mb > on my graphics card. also as i am running processes large enough to fill > memory, i am overrunning the system memory when i need more than the > remaining 3/4 of my system memory. > > Is there some optimisation of x memory useage or is this a feature of > redhat vs mandrake? ( as i need to reinstall my o.s. it would be useful > to know as whilst i am a redhat man if switching to mandrake will > improve my memory performance which is key to my work it would be useful > to know now) >> >> Adam Luter wrote: >> You are probably using a tool (e.g. top) that is including the >> memory onboard the video card, as well as the system memory. >> >> On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 05:27:25PM +, Jason RILEY wrote: >> > I've always experienced a massive overuse of memory by X (c 120M >> > ram) but recently a freind running xfree4.2 on mandrake found his >> > usage on upgrading to 4.2 was reduced to c 20M. Thinking ti save >> > memory i also upgraded to xf86 v4.2, however i still use 120M RAM is >> > there an easy way to fix this problem? I think Lionel Lecoq answered this already, but basically the system is running as expected. Linux/BSD/BeOS/MacOSX all try to use as much of the memory as possible. All the processes compete for it. The competition can be weighted using the "nice" command. See "man nice" for more details. So, if you have some computational process that you want to be given priority as a memory hog you can set it to a nice-value of "-20". You can also use "top" to renice processes on the fly. Your question is not an XFree86 specific one, it's a general *NIX sysadmin question. Please use your manuals, Google, books and comp.unix.sysadmin. XFree86 is working as expected. HTH, Oisin Feeley ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
[Newbie]Help!! Problem with make World on 4.9.99.2
Hi, I have downloaded xfree 4.2.99.2 and am unable to compile it. I am using Redhat 6.2 on a Pentium III 850 and in the past have successfully compiled xfree 4.1 and 4.2 (source was retrieved via posted tar files not CVS as in this instance). When I enter make World I get the following: .. . if [-n ""]; then \ /cc -E `./ccimake` \ -DCROSSCOMPILE_CPP imakemdep.h > imakemdep_cpp.h; \ else touch imakemdep_cpp.h;fi cc -c -O -I../../include/ -I ../../imports/X11/include/X11 `./ccimake` imake.c In file included from imake.c:288 imakemdep.h:342 Invalid token in expression imake.c:1252: Invalid token in expression imake.c:1330: Invalid token in expression It appears to be a problem with the '\' character. When I concatenate the lines in the file that it is complaining about the build will go a little further. I have tried both the default site.def and have added the linux distribution with no change. Also, I do not want to cross compile, I'm not sure why the -DCROSSCOMPILE_CPP is there. While searching the web I have seen references to the problem on other versions, but never the fix. I really need to get 4.9.99.2 built because it contains some fixes I need! Thanks for you help. Rhonda ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
[Newbie]x on a Dell C600 Latitude w/ ATI Mobility 3
I need to install the X server on some laptops at school as part of a project, and I am running into some problems. Te laptops are Dell C600 Latitudes, and according to both the company spec page and the windows system manager the machine has an ATI Mobility 3. My problem is that after I go through xf86config and run startx the server comes up, but incredibly poorly. Te hsync and vsync seem to be -way- off, and the whole screen is basically a blur opf bad reception. I have tried various different setings that I thought might work, and notng seems to. Does anyne out there have the same machine, with the X server up and running successfully? Advice on proper sync rates, along with which server I ought to be running, etc. would be great appreciatd. Tanks in advance :) Ian ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]x on a Dell C600 Latitude w/ ATI Mobility 3
On Monday 04 November 2002 04:31 pm, Ian J Peters-Campbell wrote: > I need to install the X server on some laptops at school as part of a > project, and I am running into some problems. Te laptops are Dell C600 > Latitudes, and according to both the company spec page and the windows > system manager the machine has an ATI Mobility 3. > > My problem is that after I go through xf86config and run startx the server > comes up, but incredibly poorly. Te hsync and vsync seem to be -way- off, > and the whole screen is basically a blur opf bad reception. I have tried > various different setings that I thought might work, and notng seems to. > > Does anyne out there have the same machine, with the X server up and > running successfully? Advice on proper sync rates, along with which > server I ought to be running, etc. would be great appreciatd. Tanks in > advance :) I'm running openbsd 3.1 on a Dell Latitude cpi 300. I got a good X display of 1024x768 by adding HorizSync 31.5-57 VertRefresh 43-90 to my XF86Config file ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]RedHat 7.3, S3 Trio64V+ and Sampo Alphascan 411: monitor turns off if I try 24 bit mode
- Original Message - From: Lionel Lecoq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 12:13 AM Subject: Re: [Newbie]RedHat 7.3, S3 Trio64V+ and Sampo Alphascan 411: monitor turns off if I try 24 bit mode > You are running X 4.2 and not 3.3.6, > If you check the Supported software: > http://www.xfree86.org/ > Support, Documentation and Resources > XFree86 video drivers support status > S3 > You will find the restrictions as to the support (I would assume your card is supported in 4.2) I checked it: 4.2 supports my S3Trio64V+ > > You might want to restrict vertical refresh to 50-60 just to check that the monitor is not > switching off because the frequency is too high (75 according to the log that should be OK?) these are the frenquencies I took from my monitor's official home page H-Freq. 30 KHz ~ 54 KHz V-Freq. 50 Hz ~ 120 Hz Dot Rate 80 MHz > If nothing works then try 3.3.6 by changing /etc/X11/X to a symlink to /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_S3 /etc/X11/X is already a symlink to /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_S3 and > polishing your /etc/X11/XF86Config what does "polishing" means? > > If that does not work then I am out of ideas... then who can I ask some help about it? > Lionel Thank you again. Diego ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
