[Newbie]Two trivial problems

2002-12-11 Thread JS Bangs
I'm writing because I have two problems that should be fairly easy to fix,
but which have confounded me so far.

First, I accidentally messed up a line in my XFree86-Config file, causing
my screen to display beautiful swirly lines and scrolling bars instead of
anything else. Since I have a graphical logon, I can't even get to the
console to change this back. How can I force X to quit and return to the
regular command line? Ideally, I'd like this to happen before I even
login (although I can muddle my way past the logon screen if I must).
Alternately, can I prevent X from booting during startup (under a Debian
system)?

Second, how can I change the font size that X uses to display things like
the logon screen or a file browser? Regardless of which window manager I
use (Enlightenment is my default), I get rediculously large fonts and
button sizes in most windows. I think this is an X thing, because the
fonts that are obviously controlled by Enlightenment (like the titlebars
and pop-up menus) appear in reasonable dimensions.

Thanks to all who can help--

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Re: [Newbie]Two trivial problems

2002-12-11 Thread Oisin C. Feeley


On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, JS Bangs wrote:

>First, I accidentally messed up a line in my XFree86-Config file, causing
>my screen to display beautiful swirly lines and scrolling bars instead of
>anything else. Since I have a graphical logon, I can't even get to the
>console to change this back. How can I force X to quit and return to the
>regular command line? Ideally, I'd like this to happen before I even

Ctrl+Alt+Backspace should drop you into the console.  

>login (although I can muddle my way past the logon screen if I must).
>Alternately, can I prevent X from booting during startup (under a Debian
>system)?

Edit the /etc/inittab file.  There should be a line with 
id:5:initdefault:
change the 5 to a 3 and then your system will boot to the console and 
you'll use "startx" to start an X session

>
>Second, how can I change the font size that X uses to display things like
>the logon screen or a file browser? Regardless of which window manager I
>use (Enlightenment is my default), I get rediculously large fonts and
>button sizes in most windows. I think this is an X thing, because the
>fonts that are obviously controlled by Enlightenment (like the titlebars
>and pop-up menus) appear in reasonable dimensions.

You can set the fonts used by individual application by editing the file 
$HOME/.Xresources  (where $HOME stands for /your/absolue/home/path).  
See "man X" and look for the section titled "RESOURCES".  Towards the 
bottom of this section there's an example file that you could play with.

HTH,
Oisin Feeley


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Re: [Newbie]Two trivial problems

2002-12-12 Thread C. Brewer
Boy oh boy!! I'd like to make some slight adjustments to Oisin's suggestions. While 
technically accurate, just a little off enough to confuse.

Point A: Ctrl+Alt+BS will drop you back to a console, from startx. Since our injured 
party says he/she cannot clearly see the login screen, we must assume a *dm, 
i.e.,k-x-gdm. From there, it will take a mess o' C-A-BS' to dump the *dm.

Point B: The inittab switch is different for Debian, the distro in question. Debian, 
last I checked, defaults to init 2 regardless of environment. meaning it doesnt have X 
in its own runlevel hogwash laid down by certain distros based on one sporting a 
brightly colored fedora.
This leaves two choices, either switch inittab to a runlevel without *dm, which I'm 
pretty sure doesn't exist in Debian, you can check them, I don't run Debian anymore, 
won't start a flamewar over why, but I don't, so I can't check it myself.

You're going to have do a update-rc.d -f *dm remove, to diable automtically booting 
into X. But hell, if all you want is a console, try Ctrl-Alt-F1-F6 and you should get 
it.

I know it was long and boring, but you could have just submitted your XFConfig-4 file, 
someone would have spotted your bad line, I'll bet:)
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RE: [Newbie]Two trivial problems

2002-12-12 Thread scan
only suggestion: debian has many own mailing lists and archives as well.
have a look there - maybe you find a solution.
regards~andreas

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of C. Brewer
> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 9:05 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Newbie]Two trivial problems
>
>
> Boy oh boy!! I'd like to make some slight adjustments to Oisin's
> suggestions. While technically accurate, just a little off enough
> to confuse.
>
> Point A: Ctrl+Alt+BS will drop you back to a console, from
> startx. Since our injured party says he/she cannot clearly see
> the login screen, we must assume a *dm, i.e.,k-x-gdm. From there,
> it will take a mess o' C-A-BS' to dump the *dm.
>
> Point B: The inittab switch is different for Debian, the distro
> in question. Debian, last I checked, defaults to init 2
> regardless of environment. meaning it doesnt have X in its own
> runlevel hogwash laid down by certain distros based on one
> sporting a brightly colored fedora.
> This leaves two choices, either switch inittab to a runlevel
> without *dm, which I'm pretty sure doesn't exist in Debian, you
> can check them, I don't run Debian anymore, won't start a
> flamewar over why, but I don't, so I can't check it myself.
>
> You're going to have do a update-rc.d -f *dm remove, to diable
> automtically booting into X. But hell, if all you want is a
> console, try Ctrl-Alt-F1-F6 and you should get it.
>
> I know it was long and boring, but you could have just submitted
> your XFConfig-4 file, someone would have spotted your bad line, I'll bet:)
> --
> Chuck Brewer
> Registered Linux User #284015
>
> Get my gpg public key at pgp.mit.edu!! Encrypted e-mail preferred.
>
> This entire domain and all associated e-mail addresses are located in
> the State of Washington,and sending mail to addresses at this domain is
> subject to the provisions of the Revised Code of Washington.
>
>

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Re: [Newbie]Two trivial problems

2002-12-12 Thread C. Brewer
Do you people actually follow threads? This is exactly the sort of thing that throws 
newbies. Let's get all unfriendly-like because we didnt read what someone wrote. In 
reference to the below lines, Mr./Mrs Scan- my message was a reply to a thread which 
asked a legitimate X related question, and I only clarifed the distrubution related 
differences of initial reply by Mr. Feeley. For while X operates pretty much the same 
on the distros I've used, the setup often differs. My rant here is that without 
reading all the replies, you end up givng bogus info to people. This sort of thing 
smells of asking someone with a map for directions, and them telling you to ask at the 
gas station. Please read all related posts in a thread before adding your two cents. 
Thank you.

On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 14:11:49 +0100
"scan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> only suggestion: debian has many own mailing lists and archives as well.
> have a look there - maybe you find a solution.
> regards~andreas
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> > Behalf Of C. Brewer
> > Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 9:05 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [Newbie]Two trivial problems
> >
> >
> > Boy oh boy!! I'd like to make some slight adjustments to Oisin's
> > suggestions. While technically accurate, just a little off enough
> > to confuse.
> >
> > Point A: Ctrl+Alt+BS will drop you back to a console, from
> > startx. Since our injured party says he/she cannot clearly see
> > the login screen, we must assume a *dm, i.e.,k-x-gdm. From there,
> > it will take a mess o' C-A-BS' to dump the *dm.
> >
> > Point B: The inittab switch is different for Debian, the distro
> > in question. Debian, last I checked, defaults to init 2
> > regardless of environment. meaning it doesnt have X in its own
> > runlevel hogwash laid down by certain distros based on one
> > sporting a brightly colored fedora.
> > This leaves two choices, either switch inittab to a runlevel
> > without *dm, which I'm pretty sure doesn't exist in Debian, you
> > can check them, I don't run Debian anymore, won't start a
> > flamewar over why, but I don't, so I can't check it myself.
> >
> > You're going to have do a update-rc.d -f *dm remove, to diable
> > automtically booting into X. But hell, if all you want is a
> > console, try Ctrl-Alt-F1-F6 and you should get it.
> >
> > I know it was long and boring, but you could have just submitted
> > your XFConfig-4 file, someone would have spotted your bad line, I'll bet:)
> > --
> > Chuck Brewer
> > Registered Linux User #284015
> >
> > Get my gpg public key at pgp.mit.edu!! Encrypted e-mail preferred.
> >
> > This entire domain and all associated e-mail addresses are located in
> > the State of Washington,and sending mail to addresses at this domain is
> > subject to the provisions of the Revised Code of Washington.
> >
> >
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Re: [Newbie]Two trivial problems

2002-12-12 Thread Oisin C. Feeley


On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, C. Brewer wrote:

>Boy oh boy!! I'd like to make some slight adjustments to Oisin's
>suggestions. While technically accurate, just a little off enough to
>confuse.
>


Thanks for checking up on me C.  !  Your answer is much better.

Oisin Feeley

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