Re: [newbie] Mandrake 8.0 doesn't work!!

2001-05-09 Per discussione Rick Shear

I would reluctantly have to agree.  That will teach me to be lazy  not
build my computer this past time! ;)   Oh well, It's more fun building
anyway... I'm sure that's what I'll do the next time I convince my wife it's
time to upgrade.

Thanks all for any help you have given.

Rick
- Original Message -
From: Mcintosh, Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Rick Shear' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 9:31 AM
Subject: RE: [newbie] Mandrake 8.0 doesn't work!!


looks to me as if there is a problem owning a GATEWAY

 -Message d'origine-
 De: Rick Shear [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Date: mercredi 9 mai 2001 15:53
 À: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Objet: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 8.0 doesn't work!!

 My install basically did the same thing.  Would go all the way through the
 installation process but wouldn't boot. My system ( A Gateway 800 Athlon)
 would hang just before the press I for interactive boot message.  I went
 through everything I could think of even purchased a new video card which
 I
 knew to be X compatable all with the same results.  Got a copy of Red Hat
 7.1 installed it and it runs fine.  I really wanted to get Mandrake to
 work
 but for some reason it just doesn't like my machine.  I had heard such
 good
 about it.  Oh well, I haven't given up I may try a later version 
 hopefully
 they will work out the bugs.


 - Original Message -
 From: nicholas allen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 5:20 AM
 Subject: [newbie] Mandrake 8.0 doesn't work!!


  Hi,
 
  Has anyone else experienced this problem? I had Mandrake 7.0 working
  fine and thought I would just install (not upgrade) to Mandrake 8.0 over
  the top. The installation finsihed sucessfully and there were absolutely
  no errors (event testing X worked). However, when I rebooted my machine
  I see the message welcome to Mandrake press I for interactive boot and
  then the system just freezes completely.
 
  I never had any problems before and my machine is less that a year old
  (Gateway 650 MHz processor with 30 Gig hard drive and 384 MB RAM). May
  be I'll just stick with RedHat as they seem to test theirs more
  thoroughly. I think Mandrake install is very unprofessional - I really
  don't know why everyone likes it. It looks bad and there are spelling
  mistakes - it just doesn't look polished to me. Also why is X configured
  at the end? This should be done way before you even install all the
  software! The reason I like Mandrake though is the desktop environments
  are better configured there is more software and it is up to date. If
  only they had a decent installation program like RedHat's it would be
  the best distro
 
 






Re: [newbie]HELP: Athlon, M7M and Radeon

2001-05-06 Per discussione Rick Shear

I know all too well about the Proprietary architecture of certain
peripherals inside my Gateway.  I was not too pleased to find the Philips
CDR I purchased with it had no brand name in the firmware so it couldn't be
flashed with Philips updates.  Not too surprising the Radeon card appears to
be a special version for Gateway as well.  I can't complain too much about
the quality of my machine it has worked quite well as it was sold but I know
as soon as replacement time comes, I will build from scratch as I have
always done in the past.

On a side note, if I do just replace the video card, are there any good
quality sub $100 Cards that Linux likes from the get go without having to
re-compile anything.  I am a veteran in the Dos/Windows world but a virgin
when it comes to Linux.

TIA... Again,

Rick
- Original Message -
From: Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Rick Shear' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Newbie (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 6:35 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie]HELP: Athlon, M7M and Radeon


 afaik... also.. from past experience... you might not want to contact DELL
 about using LINUX on a machine that is supposed to be under warranty..
they
 might end the warranty as use of LINUX used to void the DELL win-warranty.
 (was a couple of years ago but just a call that said you had already
 installed linux would be the end of the warranty.


 - Original Message -
 From: Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'Rick Shear' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Newbie (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 8:43 AM
 Subject: RE: [newbie]HELP: Athlon, M7M and Radeon


 
  Rick
 
  Since only the Dell supplied driver will work in Windows you have
received
  what in technical terms is known as the shaft.
 
  The card you have, while in fact a Radeon has been in some fashion
  manufactured to be proprietary to Dell.
 
  The only option I can see, other than buying a New card, is to contact
 Dell
  Tech Support in the hopes that they can provide you with assistance.
 
 Charles  )-:
 
  Forever never goes beyond tomorrow.
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rick Shear
   Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 11:34 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: [newbie]HELP: Athlon, M7M and Radeon
  
  
   Would the fact that the Radeon card I have is SDR not DDR?  I
   know the card
   requires a driver from Gateway to run windows.  I haven't
   found one on ATI's
   site that will work.  Maybe this card is just odd and causing
   the problem.
   The only other problem I could see is that I am installing on
   my second hard
   drive with lilo on the primary.
  
   Thanks for all the information,
  
   Rick
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: 'Rick Shear' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Cc: Newbie (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 7:43 AM
   Subject: RE: [newbie]HELP: Athlon, M7M and Radeon
  
  
The Radeon requires X 4.02, so it is not going to work in a
   stock 7.2
install
and/or system.
   
I currently have 2 Radeon cards, a 32MB DDR and a 64MB DDR
   w/VIVO, and I
think
both cards are great.
Both system, a Duron 800mhz and a t-bird 1.00ghz, have the
   ASUS A7V MOBO
   and
Maxtor ATA100 hds.
I have had no real problem either installing or running
   SuSE7.1, RH 7.1,
   and
of course Mandrake 8.0.
Additionally with Mandrake 8.0 I was using the experimental
   3d hardware
acceleration.
   
   Charles  (-:
   
   
 
 







Fw: [newbie]HELP: Athlon, M7M and Radeon

2001-05-03 Per discussione Rick Shear

I have an Athlon 800 with an AMD chipset.  I also have an ATI Radeon card
and cannot seem to get X to work.  Tried 7.2... no luck.  Tried 8.0 Won't
even boot after install just hangs.

Running x configuration during install locks system.

Can anyone recommend a good ultra low end mobo/processor/video combo that
will harmonize with 8.0.  I want to set up a linux box to learn... doesn't
have to be any kind of screamer.  3d graphics are of little importance.

TIA,

Rick
- Original Message -
From: Serge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Linux newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 9:01 AM
Subject: [newbie]HELP: Athlon, M7M and Radeon


 Hi

 I would like to know if someone has these 3 components :
 Athlon [500 MHZ]
 K7M motherboard
 Ati Radeon

 I cannot make my X works with the Radeon...With Mandrake 8.0 .
 During the  configuration test i got blank screen [sleep mode] and the pc
 crashed

 I tried RedHat 7.1, it worked during the X configuration, i logged in once
as
 root, and then when i logged out, blank screen [sleep mode] and
 the pc crashed...


 Help please!!

 Thanx Serge






Re: [newbie]HELP: Athlon, M7M and Radeon

2001-05-03 Per discussione Rick Shear

The chipset is the 751 Irongate.  Unfortunately, I can't trade in the radeon
as I have had the system for some time now.  I got lazy this time around and
bought a gateway about a year ago.  My original video card in the unit had
the GeForce 256 chipset but when that died, they swapped it out for this ATI
board. :(

Anyway, If I could find a mobo/processor combo with onboard video  sound
under $200 that would run linux I could setup another system  swap between
the two with a KVM switch.  ... I know I made a bunch of people cringe with
the onboard stuff, but as much as I dislike all in one mobo's, due to the
price factor I will most likely have to go that way.

Rick


- Original Message -
From: Dan LaBine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Rick Shear [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: [newbie]HELP: Athlon, M7M and Radeon


 Rick; Your equipment is fine.But Mandrake isn't behaving itself with the
 Radeon chipset yet. Depending on the motherboard, it either works fine,
 or coughs up a hairball! Sound like you ended up with the hairball. Try
 changing the Radeon in for an ATi Rage Fury Maxx or something with a
 Rage128 chipset. I know for a fact that it will run great! I have 7
 systems with the exact same configuration, and they're all bug-less.
 When you take the Radeon back, the money you save can be used for more
 RAM !!! Better yet, a Matrox G450 Dual-Head and twin 19 monitors!
 AAAaaagh ! ! ! Well, just a thought ! But seriously? the Rage128.
 You can't go wrong. By the way, which AMD chipset? Is it an Irongate
 chipset? Viper?? Cobra? Be prepared for a non-functional USB module.
 Also, try changing the mobo to an ASUS A7V. Use the old board in another
 system which runs Windows.

 On 03 May 2001 09:42:35 -0500, Rick Shear wrote:
  I have an Athlon 800 with an AMD chipset.  I also have an ATI Radeon
card
  and cannot seem to get X to work.  Tried 7.2... no luck.  Tried 8.0
Won't
  even boot after install just hangs.
 
  Running x configuration during install locks system.
 
  Can anyone recommend a good ultra low end mobo/processor/video combo
that
  will harmonize with 8.0.  I want to set up a linux box to learn...
doesn't
  have to be any kind of screamer.  3d graphics are of little importance.
 
  TIA,
 
  Rick
  - Original Message -
  From: Serge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Linux newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 9:01 AM
  Subject: [newbie]HELP: Athlon, M7M and Radeon
 
 
   Hi
  
   I would like to know if someone has these 3 components :
   Athlon [500 MHZ]
   K7M motherboard
   Ati Radeon
  
   I cannot make my X works with the Radeon...With Mandrake 8.0 .
   During the  configuration test i got blank screen [sleep mode] and the
pc
   crashed
  
   I tried RedHat 7.1, it worked during the X configuration, i logged in
once
  as
   root, and then when i logged out, blank screen [sleep mode] and
   the pc crashed...
  
  
   Help please!!
  
   Thanx Serge