Re: Problem with newsx-1.4 connecting to INN 1.5.1 (connection reset)

1999-09-03 Thread Duncan Gibson


I wrote:
DG> However, the newsx pull from central to new-local only works
DG> some of the time. There are certain articles which just hang
DG> in transfer and the connection is reset at the central end.
DG> Using --list and similar also seem to hang without result.

You replied:
> There is a bug in newsx that causes problems with articles that contain
> ASCII NULs. Perhaps that is the trouble you are seeing? When moving very
> large amounts of news, it you will see NULs with a certain probability. 

Well, in fact, the problem was actually a network problem, and not
newsx as such. After weeks of intermittent network behaviour, we've
been obliged to go back to plain Ethernet from FDDI, and now the
newsx connection to the central machine running INN 1.5.1 works.

Now that I've fiddled around and got it working, I'm very pleased
that it fits seamlessly into the existing news setup, and also in
the huge reduction in network traffic.

I'm running C-news, nntp-1.5.11t5, newsx-1.4, on HPUX 10.20.
As far as bug fixing goes, you may want to take a look at the
following areas:

- When the network died and newsx detected the connection reset, the
  lock files were never removed.

- newsx dumps core if there is an in.hosts config file with anything
  more than comment lines in it.

- I'm running a 'full' site, but only want to pull the newsgroups which
  are actually read[*]. For newgroup and checkgroups notification I need
  to pull 'control' (yes, there's lots of cancel message garbage) but
  you can't get newsgroups which aren't in the ME: line of the sys
  file. I never needed to have 'control' in the ME: line before.

- the --list and --newlist options generate an active file which
  has an additional 5th column which is identical to the 4th.

- there should be an intermediate form between --list and --newlist
  (and between --desc and --alldesc) which allows you to grab entries
  which match the ME: line of the sys file. At the moment, --list
  matches what you have in the in.hosts file, and --newlist matches
  *everything* on the feed machine, even in hierarchies which you
  don't want.

Keep up the good work.

Cheers
Duncan

[*] if only some newsreaders, eg Netscape didn't query the server
for all newsgroups the first time you run it, thus making it
appear that all newsgroups are actually being read.

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Re: Problem with newsx-1.4 connecting to INN 1.5.1 (connection reset)

1999-08-20 Thread Egil Kvaleberg

On Fri, 20 Aug 1999, you wrote:

> We're running HPUX 10.20

OK.

I have received a patch for BSD. But it is quite BSD-centric, and isn't
very useful elsewhere.

As I said, I'm pretty close to a solution for everyone. The holiday made
me loose track, but now I'm on it again ;-) I'll tell you all when it's
ready - it will be ASAP. 

Egil
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Re: Problem with newsx-1.4 connecting to INN 1.5.1 (connection reset)

1999-08-20 Thread Duncan Gibson


On Thu, 19 Aug 1999, I wrote:
DG> However, the newsx pull from central to new-local only works
DG> some of the time. There are certain articles which just hang
DG> in transfer and the connection is reset at the central end.
DG> Using --list and similar also seem to hang without result.

And you replied:
EK> There is a bug in newsx that causes problems with articles that
EK> contain ASCII NULs.  Perhaps that is the trouble you are seeing?
EK> When moving very large amounts of news, it you will see NULs with
EK> a certain probability.

EK> I have been working on a fix for it - it is a bit tricky to get a
EK> solution that is 100% portable.  And then the summer holiday came
EK> in and interrupted ;-(

EK> I should have the fix ready real soon now.  Which Unix are you
EK> running, BTW?

We're running HPUX 10.20 (with patches up to the big bundle from
the end of last year) but we're not 100% up to date :-(

Cheers
Duncan

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Re: Problem with newsx-1.4 connecting to INN 1.5.1 (connection reset)

1999-08-19 Thread Egil Kvaleberg

On Thu, 19 Aug 1999, you wrote:

> However, the newsx pull from central to new-local only works
> some of the time. There are certain articles which just hang
> in transfer and the connection is reset at the central end.
> Using --list and similar also seem to hang without result.

There is a bug in newsx that causes problems with articles that contain
ASCII NULs. Perhaps that is the trouble you are seeing? When moving very
large amounts of news, it you will see NULs with a certain probability. 

I have been working on a fix for it - it is a bit tricky to get a
solution that is 100% portable. And then the summer holiday came in and
interrupted ;-(

I should have the fix ready real soon now. Which Unix are you running,
BTW?

Egil
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Problem with newsx-1.4 connecting to INN 1.5.1 (connection reset)

1999-08-19 Thread Duncan Gibson



/* this article has also been sent to news.software.nntp */

The site feed is running INN 1.5.1

We are running C-news(G) and nntp-1.5.11t5 on our local system
so that we can determine our own expiry times on groups of
interest to us.

Our local system is about to be disposed of, so I've just
set up C-news(G) and nntp-1.5.11t5 on a new system (HPUX 10.20)
but to avoid the network overload, I've also installed
newsx-1.4.

What I therefore have at the moment is this

  INN  C-news   C-news
   +---+  nntp  +-+ newsx +-+
 > |central| <> |old-local| > |new-local|
   +---++-+ pull  +-+
   |   ^
   +---+
  newsx pull (almost)


The newsx pull from old-local to new-local appears to work
without any problems.

However, the newsx pull from central to new-local only works
some of the time. There are certain articles which just hang
in transfer and the connection is reset at the central end.
Using --list and similar also seem to hang without result.

Has anybody else seen this? Is there something special I have
to do when connecting to a remote INN server?

Cheers
Duncan

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