[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Starting problems

[Alexander Monteclaire]

Thanks again guys for all your input due to the winter season im waiting
till spring to diagnose this issue once again..too many missed ridding
seasons because of this issue.  must ride must ride

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:26 AM,  wrote:

>
> Hello
> I thought of putting a LED light in my headlamp. Could solve the problem,
> except that it doesn't lit enough for night hawking.
> The regulator alone is not the solution : it is only necessary to change it
> because a permanent magnet alternator has not the same regulation scheme as
> a classical coil excited alternator.
> Just for information, in order to 1 decrease the current in the excitation
> coil 2 decrease the power taken by the headlamp, during daytime, I ride my
> bike with the headlamp and the excitation winding of the alternator wired
> in series. I had to put in place a two wire cable from the headlamp housing
> to the connectors under the saddle.
> Just a loosy trick... but it works : the bike charges badly but, at least,
> the alternator doesn't burn.
> Perhaps there would be another solution : use a current limiter device,
> which has a thermal derating curve giving lower limit currents when
> temperature increases. Any guru of electronc devices on the forum ?
> Best regards
> Jean-Pierre
>
>
> At 06:18 08/01/2009 -0600, you wrote:
>
>
> >Jean-Pierre
> >
> >Is the rectifier/regulator all I would need?  $10-$15?  You bet, I'd try
> >one!
> >
> >I'm thinking about a voltage dropping device(adjustable?) in the headlight
> >circuit for daytime use that would still keep me legal but drop wattage to
> >20 or less, and be easily switchable for nighttime use. Could even be
> >pulsing for greater visibility. I ride almost exclusively in the daytime.
> >Any ideas?
> >
> >Gene
>
>
>
>
> >
>

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Nighthawk 450 for sale

[Alexander Monteclaire]

Hey cole,
if you have a passion for something,  Don't let some one talk you out of it.
its not the motorcycle thats unsafe its the people who don't look out for
you is what you need to be worried about.
which thats why they have the advanced rider and basic riders courses.

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Paul (Do NOT send forwards to this address)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hey Cole,
>
> Please let people know where you're located AND send some links to pictures
> or attach a few to your message.
>
> Paul
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 9:37 AM, cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>> i need to sell my nighthawk 450. i don't want to but my significant
>> other doesn't want me to have it.  she doesn't think its safe. i just
>> recently repainted it and the only problem im having with it is that
>> the gas tank has rust on the inside. if you put the gas tank hose into
>> a claen cup of gas it runs fine. it over heated on me one time but
>> that is because i didnt know that you needed cool air blowing over the
>> fins on the engine to cool the motor and i was just cruising real slow
>> through a couple of neighborhoods and it got hot on me but I have
>> cranked it up since then with thte cup of gas and it runs fine. the
>> seat is torn but that is an easy fix with a staple gun and some
>> leather. so if anybody knows of someone looking for a good bike for
>> cheap let me know. im asking $1,000 or best offer. my pictures are
>> posted on the site. check it out thanks!...Cole.
>> -
>>
>>
>
> >
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 83 Nighthawk wont start.

[Alexander Monteclaire]

Yes i smell Gas when i start it,  i haven't messed with the compression
since i got the bike since it was running fine,

The starter seems to just slide inplace what do you mean by alignment? and
what is the starter benidix?
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Graham Kraker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Do you smell gas in the exhaust while your trying to start it?  If so,
> thats good.  I gues as long as your spark and compression are good
> then the only thing changed since it ran was the starter right?  Maybe
> the starter bendix isn't retracting after wind up?  or maybe there's a
> starter-to-block alignment problem?
> My '86 700 gave me quite a problem with the starter relay/solenoid, is
> yours working right?
> Hope this helped.
>
> On Oct 4, 5:18 pm, "Alexander Monteclaire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > the emergency switch was in the normal run position not the stop
> > On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 8:17 PM, Alexander Monteclaire <
> >
> >
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > yes im sure, that was one of the first things i checked the plugs were
> put
> > > back in the same places they were pulled out of along with the wires we
> did
> > > it one plug at a time not all at once.
> >
> > > On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Paul LeBoutillier <
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >> I always hate to suggest this, but are you sure your kill switch
> didn't
> > >> get bumped?
> > >> Paul
> >
> > >> On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Kyle Munz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >>> You didn't happen to put the plugs into the wrong cyls after testing
> them
> > >>> did you? I believe the left coil is for the outside cyls and the
> right coil
> > >>> is for the inner cyls.
> >
> > >>> On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Alexander Monteclaire <
> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >>>> Exactly it will not catch, spark was checked by pulling every spark
> plug
> > >>>> out and seeing if there was spark, we checked the fuel becuase 1 we
> put a
> > >>>> full tank of gas in the bike to begin with 2 we drained the carbs
> repeatedly
> > >>>> along with checking the , and 3. the bike ran before all this took
> place,
> > >>>> theonly major thing that was done is a new starter was installed.
> thats it.
> > >>>> On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Kyle Munz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > >>>>> By won't turn over you mean the engine won't catch? You said you
> have
> > >>>>> fuel and spark, how'd you check this?
> >
> > >>>>> -Kyle
> >
> > >>>>> On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Dark Rider <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> >
> > >>>>>> ok, guys, once again i need your assistance,
> > >>>>>> My bike has fuel and spark and when we hit the starter which is
> brand
> > >>>>>> new it cranks but does not turn over, we put fresh gas in the bike
> and
> > >>>>>> the battery is on full charge, and still nothing, ive even tried
> > >>>>>> jumping the bike with a car and it still wont turn over is there
> > >>>>>> something im missing in the equasion? we did get it to fire once,
>  i'm
> > >>>>>> trying to get it done so it can finally be on the street instead
> of on
> > >>>>>> the side of the road.  Any help would be greatly appricated.- Hide
> quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
> >
>

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 83 Nighthawk wont start.

[Alexander Monteclaire]

the emergency switch was in the normal run position not the stop
On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 8:17 PM, Alexander Monteclaire <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> yes im sure, that was one of the first things i checked the plugs were put
> back in the same places they were pulled out of along with the wires we did
> it one plug at a time not all at once.
>
> On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Paul LeBoutillier <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I always hate to suggest this, but are you sure your kill switch didn't
>> get bumped?
>> Paul
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Kyle Munz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> You didn't happen to put the plugs into the wrong cyls after testing them
>>> did you? I believe the left coil is for the outside cyls and the right coil
>>> is for the inner cyls.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Alexander Monteclaire <
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Exactly it will not catch, spark was checked by pulling every spark plug
>>>> out and seeing if there was spark, we checked the fuel becuase 1 we put a
>>>> full tank of gas in the bike to begin with 2 we drained the carbs 
>>>> repeatedly
>>>> along with checking the , and 3. the bike ran before all this took place,
>>>> theonly major thing that was done is a new starter was installed. thats it.
>>>> On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Kyle Munz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> By won't turn over you mean the engine won't catch? You said you have
>>>>> fuel and spark, how'd you check this?
>>>>>
>>>>> -Kyle
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Dark Rider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ok, guys, once again i need your assistance,
>>>>>> My bike has fuel and spark and when we hit the starter which is brand
>>>>>> new it cranks but does not turn over, we put fresh gas in the bike and
>>>>>> the battery is on full charge, and still nothing, ive even tried
>>>>>> jumping the bike with a car and it still wont turn over is there
>>>>>> something im missing in the equasion? we did get it to fire once,  i'm
>>>>>> trying to get it done so it can finally be on the street instead of on
>>>>>> the side of the road.  Any help would be greatly appricated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> >>
>>
>

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 83 Nighthawk wont start.

[Alexander Monteclaire]

yes im sure, that was one of the first things i checked the plugs were put
back in the same places they were pulled out of along with the wires we did
it one plug at a time not all at once.

On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Paul LeBoutillier
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> I always hate to suggest this, but are you sure your kill switch didn't get
> bumped?
> Paul
>
> On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Kyle Munz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> You didn't happen to put the plugs into the wrong cyls after testing them
>> did you? I believe the left coil is for the outside cyls and the right coil
>> is for the inner cyls.
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Alexander Monteclaire <
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Exactly it will not catch, spark was checked by pulling every spark plug
>>> out and seeing if there was spark, we checked the fuel becuase 1 we put a
>>> full tank of gas in the bike to begin with 2 we drained the carbs repeatedly
>>> along with checking the , and 3. the bike ran before all this took place,
>>> theonly major thing that was done is a new starter was installed. thats it.
>>> On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Kyle Munz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> By won't turn over you mean the engine won't catch? You said you have
>>>> fuel and spark, how'd you check this?
>>>>
>>>> -Kyle
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Dark Rider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ok, guys, once again i need your assistance,
>>>>> My bike has fuel and spark and when we hit the starter which is brand
>>>>> new it cranks but does not turn over, we put fresh gas in the bike and
>>>>> the battery is on full charge, and still nothing, ive even tried
>>>>> jumping the bike with a car and it still wont turn over is there
>>>>> something im missing in the equasion? we did get it to fire once,  i'm
>>>>> trying to get it done so it can finally be on the street instead of on
>>>>> the side of the road.  Any help would be greatly appricated.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 83 Nighthawk wont start.

[Alexander Monteclaire]

Exactly it will not catch, spark was checked by pulling every spark plug out
and seeing if there was spark, we checked the fuel becuase 1 we put a full
tank of gas in the bike to begin with 2 we drained the carbs repeatedly
along with checking the , and 3. the bike ran before all this took place,
theonly major thing that was done is a new starter was installed. thats it.

On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Kyle Munz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> By won't turn over you mean the engine won't catch? You said you have fuel
> and spark, how'd you check this?
>
> -Kyle
>
> On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Dark Rider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>>
>> ok, guys, once again i need your assistance,
>> My bike has fuel and spark and when we hit the starter which is brand
>> new it cranks but does not turn over, we put fresh gas in the bike and
>> the battery is on full charge, and still nothing, ive even tried
>> jumping the bike with a car and it still wont turn over is there
>> something im missing in the equasion? we did get it to fire once,  i'm
>> trying to get it done so it can finally be on the street instead of on
>> the side of the road.  Any help would be greatly appricated.
>>
>>
>
> >
>

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Turn signal relay

[Alexander Monteclaire]

I had a turn signal relay problem i just went to auto zone and grabbed one
from there works fine.

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 1:28 AM, Paul LeBoutillier
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Does anyone know if turn signal relays are pretty much the same among
> mid-80's Honda bikes?
> Paul
>
> 
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Clutch lever bolt

[Alexander Monteclaire]

i wouldnt be able to pick up some thing simialr at the hardware store would
i? or do i need to go through the dealer., Some jack hole deciede to to
steal my clutch lever and bolt.

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Riding with a long Coat

[Alexander Monteclaire]

Here is a simple question that has been asked by  many allot of people
iknow. Riding with a long coat on,  would the cloat get caught in the back
tire?  (this sounds stupid to ask but im asking for all the new riders who
get ideas in there head.

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Ban cel phones on the road!

[Alexander Monteclaire]

However those of you who text and drive you need to have your phones taken
away, i remember going over a high way bridge and this lady was texting
while she was driving getting on the entrance ramp. She could barely keep
control of the vehilce while she did it. she almost went off the bridge,
Luckily i saw it comming and sped ahead of her on my nighthawk, i didnt want
a watery grave.  texting and driving is NOT a good idea. Texting and riding
too for those of you who do that. and yes i have seen that.

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 7:55 AM, Alexander Monteclaire <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Considering what governments have done in the past, i dont trust to do what
> is right for us they can provide guidance but its up to the individual to
> make the correct choices.   Total government control is a dictatorship no
> countries mentioned here but ussally they do not fair out very well becuase
> of it.
>
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 12:27 AM, Dennis Hammerl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> Total government control, that's the answer. We can always trust the
>> government to do what's right for us. New Zealand is calling (on your cell
>> phone)
>>
>> --- On *Tue, 9/16/08, Dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>>
>> From: Dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Ban cel phones on the road!
>> To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 4:26 PM
>>
>> Paul,
>>
>> Some might want to ask the same question in reverse.   I.e., how much
>> regulation can we strip away before the lack of it begins to hurt us?
>>
>> In the 1930's, when the stock market crashed and the great depression
>> began, it was widely agreed that the cause was greedy speculators getting
>> themselves way over extended.   And, at that time, the federal
>> government implemented various regulations to control the markets and
>> prevent wild speculators from crashing the market and hurting all of us.
>>
>> These regulations worked for decades.
>>
>> But, beginning in the Reagan years, the mantra of free markets,
>> deregulation and no rules (let the market forces find their own way) was
>> taken up.   Since then, the regulations imposed after the Great Depression
>> have been quietly taken apart.
>>
>> And here we are again.  Human greed, in the form of make-a-quick-buck
>> sub-prime mortgages and the development and use of all sorts of fancy
>> complicated financial instruments that even half the folks on Wall Street
>> don't really understand, has done us in again.
>>
>>
>> Start with a few million mortgages of varying credit-worthiness and create
>> a series of residential mortgage-backed securities (RMBS) from them. Then
>> take the RMBS and stratify them. Then leverage them up into collateral
>> debt obligations (CDOs). Once that bundling is complete, make complex bets
>> on which layers might default, via credit default swaps (CDS).
>>
>> *Gee, how could anything possibly go wrong with that?!*
>>
>>
>> So, there's a balance out there some where.  On one hand, we can't kill
>> the creativity and growth of Capitalism and the markets that generates
>> wealth and prosperity for all of us.   But, on the other hand, we also can't
>> just let the markets run free because there are just too many folks out
>> there who will, in their personal quests for high profits, take risks or
>> actions that can hurt all of us.
>>
>> Dennis Gallagher
>> Seattle
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> *From:* nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com [mailto:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Paul LeBoutillier
>> *Sent:* 16 September, 2008 12:57
>> *To:* nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Ban cel phones on the road!
>>
>> I whole-heartily agree that talking on a cell phone while driving can be
>> dangerous, but where do all the regulations end??
>> I mean, should there be a regulation about doing your makeup while
>> driving? Eating? Programming your radio? Scolding your kids in the backseat?
>> Maybe we should ban all conversations in cars because of the potential
>> distractions. How about listening to the radio and getting all worked up
>> about a political talk show while driving? That certainly can't be good for
>> one's concentration!
>>
>> Do you see my point? Where does it end?
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 1:42 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Here in France, using a cell phone in han

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Ban cel phones on the road!

[Alexander Monteclaire]

Considering what governments have done in the past, i dont trust to do what
is right for us they can provide guidance but its up to the individual to
make the correct choices.   Total government control is a dictatorship no
countries mentioned here but ussally they do not fair out very well becuase
of it.

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 12:27 AM, Dennis Hammerl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Total government control, that's the answer. We can always trust the
> government to do what's right for us. New Zealand is calling (on your cell
> phone)
>
> --- On *Tue, 9/16/08, Dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
> From: Dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Ban cel phones on the road!
> To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 4:26 PM
>
> Paul,
>
> Some might want to ask the same question in reverse.   I.e., how much
> regulation can we strip away before the lack of it begins to hurt us?
>
> In the 1930's, when the stock market crashed and the great depression
> began, it was widely agreed that the cause was greedy speculators getting
> themselves way over extended.   And, at that time, the federal
> government implemented various regulations to control the markets and
> prevent wild speculators from crashing the market and hurting all of us.
>
> These regulations worked for decades.
>
> But, beginning in the Reagan years, the mantra of free markets,
> deregulation and no rules (let the market forces find their own way) was
> taken up.   Since then, the regulations imposed after the Great Depression
> have been quietly taken apart.
>
> And here we are again.  Human greed, in the form of make-a-quick-buck
> sub-prime mortgages and the development and use of all sorts of fancy
> complicated financial instruments that even half the folks on Wall Street
> don't really understand, has done us in again.
>
>
> Start with a few million mortgages of varying credit-worthiness and create
> a series of residential mortgage-backed securities (RMBS) from them. Then
> take the RMBS and stratify them. Then leverage them up into collateral
> debt obligations (CDOs). Once that bundling is complete, make complex bets
> on which layers might default, via credit default swaps (CDS).
>
> *Gee, how could anything possibly go wrong with that?!*
>
>
> So, there's a balance out there some where.  On one hand, we can't kill the
> creativity and growth of Capitalism and the markets that generates wealth
> and prosperity for all of us.   But, on the other hand, we also can't just
> let the markets run free because there are just too many folks out there who
> will, in their personal quests for high profits, take risks or actions that
> can hurt all of us.
>
> Dennis Gallagher
> Seattle
>
> -Original Message-
> *From:* nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Paul LeBoutillier
> *Sent:* 16 September, 2008 12:57
> *To:* nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Ban cel phones on the road!
>
> I whole-heartily agree that talking on a cell phone while driving can be
> dangerous, but where do all the regulations end??
> I mean, should there be a regulation about doing your makeup while driving?
> Eating? Programming your radio? Scolding your kids in the backseat? Maybe we
> should ban all conversations in cars because of the potential distractions.
> How about listening to the radio and getting all worked up about a political
> talk show while driving? That certainly can't be good for one's
> concentration!
>
> Do you see my point? Where does it end?
>
> Paul
>
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 1:42 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>>
>> Here in France, using a cell phone in hand while driving is an offense.
>> You
>> pay a fine and get minus two points on your driving licence. At minus
>> twelve points, you loose it. Riding a bike without an helmet is an offense
>> here, even for the passenger. Though not required by law, I use gloves, a
>> bike jacket with shoulder and elbow protections, and high boots which
>> protect my ankles.
>>
>>
>> >AAnyway, I am curious to know about your state laws in this matter. I am
>>  >going to write my legislature about it as I have had many near-misses
>> >myself from these cel-phone drivers.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> >
>

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