[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
Thanks for the link, I may also have a line through my brother, a buddy of his has a shop on the eastern shore. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
Allen, I just saw this add on craigslist that might be of your interest on what you are planning to do. http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/mcy/1402179931.html Javier. On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: > Here is what I plan on making mine look like for next summer. I've made the > plug for the belly pan already, I need to order the epoxy and Kevlar but > I'll have it done before summer. Since my rubber is good I probably won't > powder coat the wheels till I need to replace the tires though. I think I'm > going to do vinyl wrap instead of painting, mainly because it is cheaper and > I can easily change the color with out all the sanding. I'm planning on > doing a racing stripe in either white or gold. I think it will look good, > but either way it's mine and if others don't like it so what. > > > On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Stephen D'Auria > wrote: > >> I WAS planning on installing a dunstall tank and seat but now I am not >> sure if I am going to do it. Money is tight and I like the look of the bike >> the way it is and I am trying to leave it alone for the most part. Just a >> little paint here and there and some new jets soon. I hope you go through >> with it though because I would love to see that wicked nighthawk creation. I >> will probably do it knowing me but no time soon... ~Aldo >> >> >> -- >> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:40:20 -0400 >> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS >> From: althomas...@gmail.com >> To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com >> >> Thanks for the tips and photos, I'm planning on putting a dunstall fairing >> on mine (love the old school cafe look). Although I may need to go to >> clubmans or drag bars because of it, I hope not though as I like how >> comfortable the ride position is currently. Are you planning on also >> installing a rear set? >> >> >> >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
I WAS planning on installing a dunstall tank and seat but now I am not sure if I am going to do it. Money is tight and I like the look of the bike the way it is and I am trying to leave it alone for the most part. Just a little paint here and there and some new jets soon. I hope you go through with it though because I would love to see that wicked nighthawk creation. I will probably do it knowing me but no time soon... ~Aldo Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:40:20 -0400 Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS From: althomas...@gmail.com To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Thanks for the tips and photos, I'm planning on putting a dunstall fairing on mine (love the old school cafe look). Although I may need to go to clubmans or drag bars because of it, I hope not though as I like how comfortable the ride position is currently. Are you planning on also installing a rear set? _ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
Those "stains" come off with a little soap and water or other degreasing agents.
From: Stephen D'Auria
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 9:43:48 AM
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
gloss is shiny for example your gas tank is gloss black
flat AKA matt is not reflective at all like my muffler or any kind of military
vehicle is flat/matt colors... if you drip a little oil on flat/matt paint or
from bug splats it will leave stains.
semi-gloss is in between gloss and flat/matt
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:30:56 -0400
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
From: jajgar...@gmail.com
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Aldo... I can't see from the picture very well if at the end you get something
shinny or opaque. Is that what you mean with gloss (not sure of the meaning of
that word, sorry).
Javier.
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Stephen D'Auria
wrote:
It has reached girlfriend status... I love her. I thought I felt an earthquake
yesterday so I ran out to my garage and hugged her ("it's ok bebe") so she
doesn't get scared or fall over. Just a tip... for the best finish go with a
semi-gloss black rather than flat or gloss as it will hide blemishes better and
not get stained by oil. :D
>
>____
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:38:23 -0400
>
>Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
>From: jajgar...@gmail.com
>
>To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>
>Aldo,
>
>I love how the black rim looks like. A long time ago I saw a NH with black
>rims and I always thought it looks cool. My rims are pretty scratched and
>opaque, so I might be doing the same thing.
>
>Javier.
>
>
>On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Stephen D'Auria
>wrote:
>
>Hey all,
>>Just put my bike back together real quick. I am very pleased with the new
>>look! The mismatch rim doesn't even look too abnormal... The muffler looks
>>like new from a few feet back. Sweet! Cost me 15 dollars :D now just waiting
>>on the new fender..
>>
>>~Aldo
>>
>>
>>
From: jamminje...@hotmail.com
>>
>>To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>>
>>Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
>>Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:40:22 -0700
>>
>>
>>Hi guy's,
>>First I tried the MAC on my 750 and hated it enough to return it and go back
>>to stock... It seemed cheaply made and cost's way more than it is worth. Now
>>I use a V&H and it is much better than the MAC in my opinion. First off the
>>MAC was so loud I got pulled over the first time a cop saw me. V&H has much
>>higher quality construction, better performance and a much better sound. It
>>isn't exactly quiet but at least it is legal and the performance is a plus.
>>I have been riding with the V&H and stock jets for a while and I haven't
>>noticed anything bad besides a typical loss on the low end (under 4k) because
>>of reduced back pressure. The low end power loss is noticeable but
>>not unacceptable at all by my standards plus the gain above 4k is
>>fantastic. I still want more power so I am going to re-jet as recommended.
>>I got my V&H pipes off of a craigslist wreck for $150.00 and I don't expect
>>everybody to get lucky like that but I
would have paid the $350 for 'em no questions... The MAC... I would take 'em
for free but I don't see myself ever buying their products again...
>>
>>My pipes are nice other than a scratched muffler... Today I masked,
>>sanded and hit the muffler with some high-temp black paint so the damage
>>doesn't look as noticeable. It is drying right now so we'll see how it turns
>>out. I also painted my front rim semi-gloss black this weekend because
>>it was time for a tire change and I wanted them black anyway... not a fan of
>>the grey... I am going to mount and balance the tire tomorrow. My
>>hawk is definately going to look different when I put it back together. I
>>hope I like it ;P I'll send some pictures if it isn't shameful. I'll paint
>>the rear when it is time for a tire change no need to waste my tire I'll be
>>mismatch for a bit. I also ordered a new front fender from JCWhitney mine was
>>cracked from that lady's shiny beemer... o_0 already told you guys about
>>that. I like the classic look and the price of their's.
>>
>>http://www.jcwhitney.com/SPORT_STYLE_FRONT_FENDER_3
[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
Thanks for the tips and photos, I'm planning on putting a dunstall fairing on mine (love the old school cafe look). Although I may need to go to clubmans or drag bars because of it, I hope not though as I like how comfortable the ride position is currently. Are you planning on also installing a rear set? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
Do the clubmans hit the tank? I was wondering what it would look like cafe style. No one does that to this model. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
Spray paint at Wal-Mart: as little as $1.00. Yes, I'm the queen of the paint
can these days. HotrodMamma.
- Original Message -
From: Stephen D'Auria
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 12:34 AM
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
If I can get something free enough maybe... I am broke. Hard times call for
spraypaint... :p
--
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:40:56 -0700
From: blues...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
That bike needs wire wheels to complete the "look" (IMHO)
--- On Wed, 9/30/09, Javier Garcia wrote:
From: Javier Garcia
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 6:38 AM
Aldo,
I love how the black rim looks like. A long time ago I saw a NH with
black rims and I always thought it looks cool. My rims are pretty scratched and
opaque, so I might be doing the same thing.
Javier.
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Stephen D'Auria
wrote:
Hey all,
Just put my bike back together real quick. I am very pleased with
the new look! The mismatch rim doesn't even look too abnormal... The muffler
looks like new from a few feet back. Sweet! Cost me 15 dollars :D now just
waiting on the new fender..
~Aldo
From: jamminje...@hotmail.com
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:40:22 -0700
Hi guy's,
First I tried the MAC on my 750 and hated it enough to return it
and go back to stock... It seemed cheaply made and cost's way more than it is
worth. Now I use a V&H and it is much better than the MAC in my opinion. First
off the MAC was so loud I got pulled over the first time a cop saw me. V&H has
much higher quality construction, better performance and a much better sound.
It isn't exactly quiet but at least it is legal and the performance is a plus.
I have been riding with the V&H and stock jets for a while and I haven't
noticed anything bad besides a typical loss on the low end (under 4k) because
of reduced back pressure. The low end power loss is noticeable but not
unacceptable at all by my standards plus the gain above 4k is fantastic. I
still want more power so I am going to re-jet as recommended. I got my V&H
pipes off of a craigslist wreck for $150.00 and I don't expect everybody to get
lucky like that but I would have paid the $350 for 'em no questions... The
MAC... I would take 'em for free but I don't see myself ever buying their
products again...
My pipes are nice other than a scratched muffler... Today I masked,
sanded and hit the muffler with some high-temp black paint so the damage
doesn't look as noticeable. It is drying right now so we'll see how it turns
out. I also painted my front rim semi-gloss black this weekend because it was
time for a tire change and I wanted them black anyway... not a fan of the
grey... I am going to mount and balance the tire tomorrow. My hawk is
definately going to look different when I put it back together. I hope I like
it ;P I'll send some pictures if it isn't shameful. I'll paint the rear when it
is time for a tire change no need to waste my tire I'll be mismatch for a bit.
I also ordered a new front fender from JCWhitney mine was cracked from that
lady's shiny beemer... o_0 already told you guys about that. I like the classic
look and the price of their's.
http://www.jcwhitney.com/SPORT_STYLE_FRONT_FENDER_3_WIDE?ID=12;0;1101014385+28782+1992;0;13;ProductName;6;0;0;0;2008800;0
Peace & grease
~Aldo
> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:10:21 -0700
> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
> From: althomas...@gmail.com
> To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>
>
> Greg, how noticeable was the difference, and would you recommend
> spending the $450?
>
> On Sep 25, 9:16 pm, Greg Holuban wrote:
> > I have a MAC exhaust. No glasspack at all. The inside piece
(which can be removed with 1 screw) is basically two pipes welded together
stagge
[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
If I can get something free enough maybe... I am broke. Hard times call for spraypaint... :p Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:40:56 -0700 From: blues...@yahoo.com Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com That bike needs wire wheels to complete the "look" (IMHO) --- On Wed, 9/30/09, Javier Garcia wrote: From: Javier Garcia Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 6:38 AM Aldo, I love how the black rim looks like. A long time ago I saw a NH with black rims and I always thought it looks cool. My rims are pretty scratched and opaque, so I might be doing the same thing. Javier. On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Stephen D'Auria wrote: Hey all, Just put my bike back together real quick. I am very pleased with the new look! The mismatch rim doesn't even look too abnormal... The muffler looks like new from a few feet back. Sweet! Cost me 15 dollars :D now just waiting on the new fender.. ~Aldo From: jamminje...@hotmail.com To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:40:22 -0700 Hi guy's, First I tried the MAC on my 750 and hated it enough to return it and go back to stock... It seemed cheaply made and cost's way more than it is worth. Now I use a V&H and it is much better than the MAC in my opinion. First off the MAC was so loud I got pulled over the first time a cop saw me. V&H has much higher quality construction, better performance and a much better sound. It isn't exactly quiet but at least it is legal and the performance is a plus. I have been riding with the V&H and stock jets for a while and I haven't noticed anything bad besides a typical loss on the low end (under 4k) because of reduced back pressure. The low end power loss is noticeable but not unacceptable at all by my standards plus the gain above 4k is fantastic. I still want more power so I am going to re-jet as recommended. I got my V&H pipes off of a craigslist wreck for $150.00 and I don't expect everybody to get lucky like that but I would have paid the $350 for 'em no questions... The MAC... I would take 'em for free but I don't see myself ever buying their products again... My pipes are nice other than a scratched muffler... Today I masked, sanded and hit the muffler with some high-temp black paint so the damage doesn't look as noticeable. It is drying right now so we'll see how it turns out. I also painted my front rim semi-gloss black this weekend because it was time for a tire change and I wanted them black anyway... not a fan of the grey... I am going to mount and balance the tire tomorrow. My hawk is definately going to look different when I put it back together. I hope I like it ;P I'll send some pictures if it isn't shameful. I'll paint the rear when it is time for a tire change no need to waste my tire I'll be mismatch for a bit. I also ordered a new front fender from JCWhitney mine was cracked from that lady's shiny beemer... o_0 already told you guys about that. I like the classic look and the price of their's. http://www.jcwhitney.com/SPORT_STYLE_FRONT_FENDER_3_WIDE?ID=12;0;1101014385+28782+1992;0;100003;ProductName;6;0;0;0;2008800;0 Peace & grease ~Aldo > Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:10:21 -0700 > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS > From: althomas...@gmail.com > To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > > > Greg, how noticeable was the difference, and would you recommend > spending the $450? > > On Sep 25, 9:16 pm, Greg Holuban wrote: > > I have a MAC exhaust. No glasspack at all. The inside piece (which can be > > removed with 1 screw) is basically two pipes welded together staggered. I > > have a jet kit and KN air filter. Mine revs smoothly. No flat spots or > > hesitations. The sound? It won't sound like a crotch rochet. For that > > you'll need an Eagle 1 exhaust. Most, people swear by V+H but mine runs > > great. Probably worth the extra money for the quality and craftsmanship. > > > > Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 11:48:13 -0400 > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS > > From: althomas...@gmail.com > > To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > > > > I did a search of the forum and before posting this so I think it is a new > > topic, sorry if not. Anyway, I am the kind of guy who inspired Tim Taylor, > > I modify everything I own. I have done a lot of street/strip racing with > > cars, and can't resist the temptation to squeeze a few extra ponies out of > > my NH. S
[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
That bike needs wire wheels to complete the "look" (IMHO) --- On Wed, 9/30/09, Javier Garcia wrote: From: Javier Garcia Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 6:38 AM Aldo, I love how the black rim looks like. A long time ago I saw a NH with black rims and I always thought it looks cool. My rims are pretty scratched and opaque, so I might be doing the same thing. Javier. On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Stephen D'Auria wrote: Hey all, Just put my bike back together real quick. I am very pleased with the new look! The mismatch rim doesn't even look too abnormal... The muffler looks like new from a few feet back. Sweet! Cost me 15 dollars :D now just waiting on the new fender.. ~Aldo From: jamminje...@hotmail.com To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:40:22 -0700 Hi guy's, First I tried the MAC on my 750 and hated it enough to return it and go back to stock... It seemed cheaply made and cost's way more than it is worth. Now I use a V&H and it is much better than the MAC in my opinion. First off the MAC was so loud I got pulled over the first time a cop saw me. V&H has much higher quality construction, better performance and a much better sound. It isn't exactly quiet but at least it is legal and the performance is a plus. I have been riding with the V&H and stock jets for a while and I haven't noticed anything bad besides a typical loss on the low end (under 4k) because of reduced back pressure. The low end power loss is noticeable but not unacceptable at all by my standards plus the gain above 4k is fantastic. I still want more power so I am going to re-jet as recommended. I got my V&H pipes off of a craigslist wreck for $150.00 and I don't expect everybody to get lucky like that but I would have paid the $350 for 'em no questions... The MAC... I would take 'em for free but I don't see myself ever buying their products again... My pipes are nice other than a scratched muffler... Today I masked, sanded and hit the muffler with some high-temp black paint so the damage doesn't look as noticeable. It is drying right now so we'll see how it turns out. I also painted my front rim semi-gloss black this weekend because it was time for a tire change and I wanted them black anyway... not a fan of the grey... I am going to mount and balance the tire tomorrow. My hawk is definately going to look different when I put it back together. I hope I like it ;P I'll send some pictures if it isn't shameful. I'll paint the rear when it is time for a tire change no need to waste my tire I'll be mismatch for a bit. I also ordered a new front fender from JCWhitney mine was cracked from that lady's shiny beemer... o_0 already told you guys about that. I like the classic look and the price of their's. http://www.jcwhitney.com/SPORT_STYLE_FRONT_FENDER_3_WIDE?ID=12;0;1101014385+28782+1992;0;100003;ProductName;6;0;0;0;2008800;0 Peace & grease ~Aldo > Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:10:21 -0700 > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS > From: althomas...@gmail.com > To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > > > Greg, how noticeable was the difference, and would you recommend > spending the $450? > > On Sep 25, 9:16 pm, Greg Holuban wrote: > > I have a MAC exhaust. No glasspack at all. The inside piece (which can be > > removed with 1 screw) is basically two pipes welded together staggered. I > > have a jet kit and KN air filter. Mine revs smoothly. No flat spots or > > hesitations. The sound? It won't sound like a crotch rochet. For that > > you'll need an Eagle 1 exhaust. Most, people swear by V+H but mine runs > > great. Probably worth the extra money for the quality and craftsmanship. > > > > Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 11:48:13 -0400 > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS > > From: althomas...@gmail.com > > To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > > > > I did a search of the forum and before posting this so I think it is a new > > topic, sorry if not. Anyway, I am the kind of guy who inspired Tim Taylor, > > I modify everything I own. I have done a lot of street/strip racing with > > cars, and can't resist the temptation to squeeze a few extra ponies out of > > my NH. So I plan on putting in a proper zero loss exhaust, a free flowing > > intake filter, and properly jetting and tuning the carbs. To this end I > > think that if the stock exhaust is a resonator type as opposed to a > > glasspack, and if so it ca
[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
Great, that is what I thought (but wasn't sure). I just change my tires like
a month ago (actually, I used the Battlax you recommended some time ago), so
I'll consider the painting job for the next tire replacement.
Javier.
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Stephen D'Auria
wrote:
> gloss is shiny for example your gas tank is gloss black
>
> flat AKA matt is not reflective at all like my muffler or any kind of
> military vehicle is flat/matt colors... if you drip a little oil
> on flat/matt paint or from bug splats it will leave stains.
>
> semi-gloss is in between gloss and flat/matt
>
> --
> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:30:56 -0400
>
> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
> From: jajgar...@gmail.com
> To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>
> Aldo... I can't see from the picture very well if at the end you get
> something shinny or opaque. Is that what you mean with gloss (not sure of
> the meaning of that word, sorry).
> Javier.
>
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Stephen D'Auria > wrote:
>
> It has reached girlfriend status... I love her. I thought I felt an
> earthquake yesterday so I ran out to my garage and hugged her ("it's ok
> bebe") so she doesn't get scared or fall over. Just a tip... for the best
> finish go with a semi-gloss black rather than flat or gloss as it will hide
> blemishes better and not get stained by oil. :D
>
> --
> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:38:23 -0400
> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
> From: jajgar...@gmail.com
>
> To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>
> Aldo,
>
> I love how the black rim looks like. A long time ago I saw a NH with black
> rims and I always thought it looks cool. My rims are pretty scratched and
> opaque, so I might be doing the same thing.
>
> Javier.
>
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Stephen D'Auria
> wrote:
>
> Hey all,
> Just put my bike back together real quick. I am very pleased with the new
> look! The mismatch rim doesn't even look too abnormal... The muffler looks
> like new from a few feet back. Sweet! Cost me 15 dollars :D now just waiting
> on the new fender..
>
> ~Aldo
>
>
> --
> From: jamminje...@hotmail.com
> To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:40:22 -0700
>
>
> Hi guy's,
> First I tried the MAC on my 750 and hated it enough to return it and go
> back to stock... It seemed cheaply made and cost's way more than it is
> worth. Now I use a V&H and it is much better than the MAC in my opinion.
> First off the MAC was so loud I got pulled over the first time a cop saw
> me. V&H has much higher quality construction, better performance and a much
> better sound. It isn't exactly quiet but at least it is legal and the
> performance is a plus. I have been riding with the V&H and stock jets for a
> while and I haven't noticed anything bad besides a typical loss on the low
> end (under 4k) because of reduced back pressure. The low end power loss is
> noticeable but not unacceptable at all by my standards plus the gain above
> 4k is fantastic. I still want more power so I am going to re-jet as
> recommended. I got my V&H pipes off of a craigslist wreck for $150.00 and I
> don't expect everybody to get lucky like that but I would have paid the
> $350 for 'em no questions... The MAC... I would take 'em for free but
> I don't see myself ever buying their products again...
>
> My pipes are nice other than a scratched muffler... Today I masked,
> sanded and hit the muffler with some high-temp black paint so the damage
> doesn't look as noticeable. It is drying right now so we'll see how it turns
> out. I also painted my front rim semi-gloss black this weekend because
> it was time for a tire change and I wanted them black anyway... not a fan of
> the grey... I am going to mount and balance the tire tomorrow. My
> hawk is definately going to look different when I put it back together. I
> hope I like it ;P I'll send some pictures if it isn't shameful. I'll paint
> the rear when it is time for a tire change no need to waste my tire I'll be
> mismatch for a bit. I also ordered a new front fender from JCWhitney mine
> was cracked from that lady's shiny beemer... o_0 already told you guys about
> that. I like the classic look and the price of their's.
>
>
> http://www.jcwhitney.com/SPORT_STYLE_FRONT_FENDER_3_WIDE?ID=12;0;1101014385+28782+1992;0;13;ProductName;6;0;0;0;200
[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
gloss is shiny for example your gas tank is gloss black
flat AKA matt is not reflective at all like my muffler or any kind of military
vehicle is flat/matt colors... if you drip a little oil on flat/matt paint or
from bug splats it will leave stains.
semi-gloss is in between gloss and flat/matt
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:30:56 -0400
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
From: jajgar...@gmail.com
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Aldo... I can't see from the picture very well if at the end you get something
shinny or opaque. Is that what you mean with gloss (not sure of the meaning of
that word, sorry).
Javier.
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Stephen D'Auria
wrote:
It has reached girlfriend status... I love her. I thought I felt an earthquake
yesterday so I ran out to my garage and hugged her ("it's ok bebe") so she
doesn't get scared or fall over. Just a tip... for the best finish go with a
semi-gloss black rather than flat or gloss as it will hide blemishes better and
not get stained by oil. :D
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:38:23 -0400
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
From: jajgar...@gmail.com
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Aldo,
I love how the black rim looks like. A long time ago I saw a NH with black rims
and I always thought it looks cool. My rims are pretty scratched and opaque, so
I might be doing the same thing.
Javier.
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Stephen D'Auria
wrote:
Hey all,
Just put my bike back together real quick. I am very pleased with the new look!
The mismatch rim doesn't even look too abnormal... The muffler looks like new
from a few feet back. Sweet! Cost me 15 dollars :D now just waiting on the new
fender..
~Aldo
From: jamminje...@hotmail.com
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:40:22 -0700
Hi guy's,
First I tried the MAC on my 750 and hated it enough to return it and go back to
stock... It seemed cheaply made and cost's way more than it is worth. Now I use
a V&H and it is much better than the MAC in my opinion. First off the MAC was
so loud I got pulled over the first time a cop saw me. V&H has much higher
quality construction, better performance and a much better sound. It isn't
exactly quiet but at least it is legal and the performance is a plus. I have
been riding with the V&H and stock jets for a while and I haven't noticed
anything bad besides a typical loss on the low end (under 4k) because of
reduced back pressure. The low end power loss is noticeable but not
unacceptable at all by my standards plus the gain above 4k is fantastic. I
still want more power so I am going to re-jet as recommended. I got my V&H
pipes off of a craigslist wreck for $150.00 and I don't expect everybody to get
lucky like that but I would have paid the $350 for 'em no questions... The
MAC... I would take 'em for free but I don't see myself ever buying their
products again...
My pipes are nice other than a scratched muffler... Today I masked, sanded and
hit the muffler with some high-temp black paint so the damage doesn't look as
noticeable. It is drying right now so we'll see how it turns out. I also
painted my front rim semi-gloss black this weekend because it was time for a
tire change and I wanted them black anyway... not a fan of the grey... I am
going to mount and balance the tire tomorrow. My hawk is definately going to
look different when I put it back together. I hope I like it ;P I'll send some
pictures if it isn't shameful. I'll paint the rear when it is time for a tire
change no need to waste my tire I'll be mismatch for a bit. I also ordered a
new front fender from JCWhitney mine was cracked from that lady's shiny
beemer... o_0 already told you guys about that. I like the classic look and the
price of their's.
http://www.jcwhitney.com/SPORT_STYLE_FRONT_FENDER_3_WIDE?ID=12;0;1101014385+200008782+1992;0;100003;ProductName;6;0;0;0;2008800;0
Peace & grease
~Aldo
> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:10:21 -0700
> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
> From: althomas...@gmail.com
> To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>
>
> Greg, how noticeable was the difference, and would you recommend
> spending the $450?
>
> On Sep 25, 9:16 pm, Greg Holuban wrote:
> > I have a MAC exhaust. No glasspack at all. The inside piece (which can be
> > removed with 1 screw) is basically two pipes welded together staggered. I
> > have a jet kit and KN air filter. Mine revs smoothly. No flat spots or
> > hesitations. The sound? It won't sound like a crotch rochet. For that
> > you'll need an Eagle 1 exhaus
[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
Aldo... I can't see from the picture very well if at the end you get
something shinny or opaque. Is that what you mean with gloss (not sure of
the meaning of that word, sorry).
Javier.
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Stephen D'Auria
wrote:
> It has reached girlfriend status... I love her. I thought I felt an
> earthquake yesterday so I ran out to my garage and hugged her ("it's ok
> bebe") so she doesn't get scared or fall over. Just a tip... for the best
> finish go with a semi-gloss black rather than flat or gloss as it will hide
> blemishes better and not get stained by oil. :D
>
> --
> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:38:23 -0400
> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
> From: jajgar...@gmail.com
>
> To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>
> Aldo,
>
> I love how the black rim looks like. A long time ago I saw a NH with black
> rims and I always thought it looks cool. My rims are pretty scratched and
> opaque, so I might be doing the same thing.
>
> Javier.
>
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Stephen D'Auria
> wrote:
>
> Hey all,
> Just put my bike back together real quick. I am very pleased with the new
> look! The mismatch rim doesn't even look too abnormal... The muffler looks
> like new from a few feet back. Sweet! Cost me 15 dollars :D now just waiting
> on the new fender..
>
> ~Aldo
>
>
> --------------
> From: jamminje...@hotmail.com
> To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:40:22 -0700
>
>
> Hi guy's,
> First I tried the MAC on my 750 and hated it enough to return it and go
> back to stock... It seemed cheaply made and cost's way more than it is
> worth. Now I use a V&H and it is much better than the MAC in my opinion.
> First off the MAC was so loud I got pulled over the first time a cop saw
> me. V&H has much higher quality construction, better performance and a much
> better sound. It isn't exactly quiet but at least it is legal and the
> performance is a plus. I have been riding with the V&H and stock jets for a
> while and I haven't noticed anything bad besides a typical loss on the low
> end (under 4k) because of reduced back pressure. The low end power loss is
> noticeable but not unacceptable at all by my standards plus the gain above
> 4k is fantastic. I still want more power so I am going to re-jet as
> recommended. I got my V&H pipes off of a craigslist wreck for $150.00 and I
> don't expect everybody to get lucky like that but I would have paid the
> $350 for 'em no questions... The MAC... I would take 'em for free but
> I don't see myself ever buying their products again...
>
> My pipes are nice other than a scratched muffler... Today I masked,
> sanded and hit the muffler with some high-temp black paint so the damage
> doesn't look as noticeable. It is drying right now so we'll see how it turns
> out. I also painted my front rim semi-gloss black this weekend because
> it was time for a tire change and I wanted them black anyway... not a fan of
> the grey... I am going to mount and balance the tire tomorrow. My
> hawk is definately going to look different when I put it back together. I
> hope I like it ;P I'll send some pictures if it isn't shameful. I'll paint
> the rear when it is time for a tire change no need to waste my tire I'll be
> mismatch for a bit. I also ordered a new front fender from JCWhitney mine
> was cracked from that lady's shiny beemer... o_0 already told you guys about
> that. I like the classic look and the price of their's.
>
>
> http://www.jcwhitney.com/SPORT_STYLE_FRONT_FENDER_3_WIDE?ID=12;0;1101014385+28782+1992;0;13;ProductName;6;0;0;0;2008800;0
>
> Peace & grease
> ~Aldo
>
>
> > Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:10:21 -0700
> > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
> > From: althomas...@gmail.com
> > To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> >
> >
> > Greg, how noticeable was the difference, and would you recommend
> > spending the $450?
> >
> > On Sep 25, 9:16 pm, Greg Holuban wrote:
> > > I have a MAC exhaust. No glasspack at all. The inside piece (which can
> be removed with 1 screw) is basically two pipes welded together staggered. I
> have a jet kit and KN air filter. Mine revs smoothly. No flat spots or
> hesitations. The sound? It won't sound like a crotch rochet. For that you'll
> need an Eagle 1 exhaust. Most, people swear by V+H but mine runs great.
> Probably worth the extra money for
[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
It has reached girlfriend status... I love her. I thought I felt an earthquake
yesterday so I ran out to my garage and hugged her ("it's ok bebe") so she
doesn't get scared or fall over. Just a tip... for the best finish go with a
semi-gloss black rather than flat or gloss as it will hide blemishes better and
not get stained by oil. :D
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:38:23 -0400
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
From: jajgar...@gmail.com
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Aldo,
I love how the black rim looks like. A long time ago I saw a NH with black rims
and I always thought it looks cool. My rims are pretty scratched and opaque, so
I might be doing the same thing.
Javier.
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Stephen D'Auria
wrote:
Hey all,
Just put my bike back together real quick. I am very pleased with the new look!
The mismatch rim doesn't even look too abnormal... The muffler looks like new
from a few feet back. Sweet! Cost me 15 dollars :D now just waiting on the new
fender..
~Aldo
From: jamminje...@hotmail.com
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:40:22 -0700
Hi guy's,
First I tried the MAC on my 750 and hated it enough to return it and go back to
stock... It seemed cheaply made and cost's way more than it is worth. Now I use
a V&H and it is much better than the MAC in my opinion. First off the MAC was
so loud I got pulled over the first time a cop saw me. V&H has much higher
quality construction, better performance and a much better sound. It isn't
exactly quiet but at least it is legal and the performance is a plus. I have
been riding with the V&H and stock jets for a while and I haven't noticed
anything bad besides a typical loss on the low end (under 4k) because of
reduced back pressure. The low end power loss is noticeable but not
unacceptable at all by my standards plus the gain above 4k is fantastic. I
still want more power so I am going to re-jet as recommended. I got my V&H
pipes off of a craigslist wreck for $150.00 and I don't expect everybody to get
lucky like that but I would have paid the $350 for 'em no questions... The
MAC... I would take 'em for free but I don't see myself ever buying their
products again...
My pipes are nice other than a scratched muffler... Today I masked, sanded and
hit the muffler with some high-temp black paint so the damage doesn't look as
noticeable. It is drying right now so we'll see how it turns out. I also
painted my front rim semi-gloss black this weekend because it was time for a
tire change and I wanted them black anyway... not a fan of the grey... I am
going to mount and balance the tire tomorrow. My hawk is definately going to
look different when I put it back together. I hope I like it ;P I'll send some
pictures if it isn't shameful. I'll paint the rear when it is time for a tire
change no need to waste my tire I'll be mismatch for a bit. I also ordered a
new front fender from JCWhitney mine was cracked from that lady's shiny
beemer... o_0 already told you guys about that. I like the classic look and the
price of their's.
http://www.jcwhitney.com/SPORT_STYLE_FRONT_FENDER_3_WIDE?ID=12;0;1101014385+28782+1992;0;100003;ProductName;6;0;0;0;2008800;0
Peace & grease
~Aldo
> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:10:21 -0700
> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
> From: althomas...@gmail.com
> To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>
>
> Greg, how noticeable was the difference, and would you recommend
> spending the $450?
>
> On Sep 25, 9:16 pm, Greg Holuban wrote:
> > I have a MAC exhaust. No glasspack at all. The inside piece (which can be
> > removed with 1 screw) is basically two pipes welded together staggered. I
> > have a jet kit and KN air filter. Mine revs smoothly. No flat spots or
> > hesitations. The sound? It won't sound like a crotch rochet. For that
> > you'll need an Eagle 1 exhaust. Most, people swear by V+H but mine runs
> > great. Probably worth the extra money for the quality and craftsmanship.
> >
> > Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 11:48:13 -0400
> > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
> > From: althomas...@gmail.com
> > To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> >
> > I did a search of the forum and before posting this so I think it is a new
> > topic, sorry if not. Anyway, I am the kind of guy who inspired Tim Taylor,
> > I modify everything I own. I have done a lot of street/strip racing with
> > cars, and can't resist the temptation to squeeze a few extra ponies out of
> > my NH. So I plan on putting i
[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
Aldo, I love how the black rim looks like. A long time ago I saw a NH with black rims and I always thought it looks cool. My rims are pretty scratched and opaque, so I might be doing the same thing. Javier. On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Stephen D'Auria wrote: > Hey all, > Just put my bike back together real quick. I am very pleased with the new > look! The mismatch rim doesn't even look too abnormal... The muffler looks > like new from a few feet back. Sweet! Cost me 15 dollars :D now just waiting > on the new fender.. > > ~Aldo > > > -- > From: jamminje...@hotmail.com > To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS > Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:40:22 -0700 > > > Hi guy's, > First I tried the MAC on my 750 and hated it enough to return it and go > back to stock... It seemed cheaply made and cost's way more than it is > worth. Now I use a V&H and it is much better than the MAC in my opinion. > First off the MAC was so loud I got pulled over the first time a cop saw > me. V&H has much higher quality construction, better performance and a much > better sound. It isn't exactly quiet but at least it is legal and the > performance is a plus. I have been riding with the V&H and stock jets for a > while and I haven't noticed anything bad besides a typical loss on the low > end (under 4k) because of reduced back pressure. The low end power loss is > noticeable but not unacceptable at all by my standards plus the gain above > 4k is fantastic. I still want more power so I am going to re-jet as > recommended. I got my V&H pipes off of a craigslist wreck for $150.00 and I > don't expect everybody to get lucky like that but I would have paid the > $350 for 'em no questions... The MAC... I would take 'em for free but > I don't see myself ever buying their products again... > > My pipes are nice other than a scratched muffler... Today I masked, > sanded and hit the muffler with some high-temp black paint so the damage > doesn't look as noticeable. It is drying right now so we'll see how it turns > out. I also painted my front rim semi-gloss black this weekend because > it was time for a tire change and I wanted them black anyway... not a fan of > the grey... I am going to mount and balance the tire tomorrow. My > hawk is definately going to look different when I put it back together. I > hope I like it ;P I'll send some pictures if it isn't shameful. I'll paint > the rear when it is time for a tire change no need to waste my tire I'll be > mismatch for a bit. I also ordered a new front fender from JCWhitney mine > was cracked from that lady's shiny beemer... o_0 already told you guys about > that. I like the classic look and the price of their's. > > > http://www.jcwhitney.com/SPORT_STYLE_FRONT_FENDER_3_WIDE?ID=12;0;1101014385+28782+1992;0;13;ProductName;6;0;0;0;2008800;0 > > Peace & grease > ~Aldo > > > > Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:10:21 -0700 > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS > > From: althomas...@gmail.com > > To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > > > > > > Greg, how noticeable was the difference, and would you recommend > > spending the $450? > > > > On Sep 25, 9:16 pm, Greg Holuban wrote: > > > I have a MAC exhaust. No glasspack at all. The inside piece (which can > be removed with 1 screw) is basically two pipes welded together staggered. I > have a jet kit and KN air filter. Mine revs smoothly. No flat spots or > hesitations. The sound? It won't sound like a crotch rochet. For that you'll > need an Eagle 1 exhaust. Most, people swear by V+H but mine runs great. > Probably worth the extra money for the quality and craftsmanship. > > > > > > Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 11:48:13 -0400 > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS > > > From: althomas...@gmail.com > > > To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > > > > > > I did a search of the forum and before posting this so I think it is a > new topic, sorry if not. Anyway, I am the kind of guy who inspired Tim > Taylor, I modify everything I own. I have done a lot of street/strip racing > with cars, and can't resist the temptation to squeeze a few extra ponies out > of my NH. So I plan on putting in a proper zero loss exhaust, a free flowing > intake filter, and properly jetting and tuning the carbs. To this end I > think that if the stock exhaust is a resonator type as opposed to a > glasspack, and if so it can be modified it to eliminate almost all > ba
[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
Looks cool...super nice seat! - Original Message - From: Stephen D'Auria To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 5:26 PM Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS Hey all, Just put my bike back together real quick. I am very pleased with the new look! The mismatch rim doesn't even look too abnormal... The muffler looks like new from a few feet back. Sweet! Cost me 15 dollars :D now just waiting on the new fender.. ~Aldo -- From: jamminje...@hotmail.com To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:40:22 -0700 Hi guy's, First I tried the MAC on my 750 and hated it enough to return it and go back to stock... It seemed cheaply made and cost's way more than it is worth. Now I use a V&H and it is much better than the MAC in my opinion. First off the MAC was so loud I got pulled over the first time a cop saw me. V&H has much higher quality construction, better performance and a much better sound. It isn't exactly quiet but at least it is legal and the performance is a plus. I have been riding with the V&H and stock jets for a while and I haven't noticed anything bad besides a typical loss on the low end (under 4k) because of reduced back pressure. The low end power loss is noticeable but not unacceptable at all by my standards plus the gain above 4k is fantastic. I still want more power so I am going to re-jet as recommended. I got my V&H pipes off of a craigslist wreck for $150.00 and I don't expect everybody to get lucky like that but I would have paid the $350 for 'em no questions... The MAC... I would take 'em for free but I don't see myself ever buying their products again... My pipes are nice other than a scratched muffler... Today I masked, sanded and hit the muffler with some high-temp black paint so the damage doesn't look as noticeable. It is drying right now so we'll see how it turns out. I also painted my front rim semi-gloss black this weekend because it was time for a tire change and I wanted them black anyway... not a fan of the grey... I am going to mount and balance the tire tomorrow. My hawk is definately going to look different when I put it back together. I hope I like it ;P I'll send some pictures if it isn't shameful. I'll paint the rear when it is time for a tire change no need to waste my tire I'll be mismatch for a bit. I also ordered a new front fender from JCWhitney mine was cracked from that lady's shiny beemer... o_0 already told you guys about that. I like the classic look and the price of their's. http://www.jcwhitney.com/SPORT_STYLE_FRONT_FENDER_3_WIDE?ID=12;0;1101014385+28782+1992;0;13;ProductName;6;0;0;0;2008800;0 Peace & grease ~Aldo > Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:10:21 -0700 > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS > From: althomas...@gmail.com > To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > > > Greg, how noticeable was the difference, and would you recommend > spending the $450? > > On Sep 25, 9:16 pm, Greg Holuban wrote: > > I have a MAC exhaust. No glasspack at all. The inside piece (which can be removed with 1 screw) is basically two pipes welded together staggered. I have a jet kit and KN air filter. Mine revs smoothly. No flat spots or hesitations. The sound? It won't sound like a crotch rochet. For that you'll need an Eagle 1 exhaust. Most, people swear by V+H but mine runs great. Probably worth the extra money for the quality and craftsmanship. > > > > Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 11:48:13 -0400 > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS > > From: althomas...@gmail.com > > To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > > > > I did a search of the forum and before posting this so I think it is a new topic, sorry if not. Anyway, I am the kind of guy who inspired Tim Taylor, I modify everything I own. I have done a lot of street/strip racing with cars, and can't resist the temptation to squeeze a few extra ponies out of my NH. So I plan on putting in a proper zero loss exhaust, a free flowing intake filter, and properly jetting and tuning the carbs. To this end I think that if the stock exhaust is a resonator type as opposed to a glasspack, and if so it can be modified it to eliminate almost all backpressure. Since I haven't taken mine apart I don't know for sure. I have done a drawing of what I think the design of the stock exhaust looks like before and after the Hodge mod. I would appreciate it if anyone can verify if I'm corre
[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
Hi guy's, First I tried the MAC on my 750 and hated it enough to return it and go back to stock... It seemed cheaply made and cost's way more than it is worth. Now I use a V&H and it is much better than the MAC in my opinion. First off the MAC was so loud I got pulled over the first time a cop saw me. V&H has much higher quality construction, better performance and a much better sound. It isn't exactly quiet but at least it is legal and the performance is a plus. I have been riding with the V&H and stock jets for a while and I haven't noticed anything bad besides a typical loss on the low end (under 4k) because of reduced back pressure. The low end power loss is noticeable but not unacceptable at all by my standards plus the gain above 4k is fantastic. I still want more power so I am going to re-jet as recommended. I got my V&H pipes off of a craigslist wreck for $150.00 and I don't expect everybody to get lucky like that but I would have paid the $350 for 'em no questions... The MAC... I would take 'em for free but I don't see myself ever buying their products again... My pipes are nice other than a scratched muffler... Today I masked, sanded and hit the muffler with some high-temp black paint so the damage doesn't look as noticeable. It is drying right now so we'll see how it turns out. I also painted my front rim semi-gloss black this weekend because it was time for a tire change and I wanted them black anyway... not a fan of the grey... I am going to mount and balance the tire tomorrow. My hawk is definately going to look different when I put it back together. I hope I like it ;P I'll send some pictures if it isn't shameful. I'll paint the rear when it is time for a tire change no need to waste my tire I'll be mismatch for a bit. I also ordered a new front fender from JCWhitney mine was cracked from that lady's shiny beemer... o_0 already told you guys about that. I like the classic look and the price of their's. http://www.jcwhitney.com/SPORT_STYLE_FRONT_FENDER_3_WIDE?ID=12;0;1101014385+28782+1992;0;13;ProductName;6;0;0;0;2008800;0 Peace & grease ~Aldo > Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:10:21 -0700 > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS > From: althomas...@gmail.com > To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > > > Greg, how noticeable was the difference, and would you recommend > spending the $450? > > On Sep 25, 9:16 pm, Greg Holuban wrote: > > I have a MAC exhaust. No glasspack at all. The inside piece (which can be > > removed with 1 screw) is basically two pipes welded together staggered. I > > have a jet kit and KN air filter. Mine revs smoothly. No flat spots or > > hesitations. The sound? It won't sound like a crotch rochet. For that > > you'll need an Eagle 1 exhaust. Most, people swear by V+H but mine runs > > great. Probably worth the extra money for the quality and craftsmanship. > > > > Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 11:48:13 -0400 > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS > > From: althomas...@gmail.com > > To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > > > > I did a search of the forum and before posting this so I think it is a new > > topic, sorry if not. Anyway, I am the kind of guy who inspired Tim Taylor, > > I modify everything I own. I have done a lot of street/strip racing with > > cars, and can't resist the temptation to squeeze a few extra ponies out of > > my NH. So I plan on putting in a proper zero loss exhaust, a free flowing > > intake filter, and properly jetting and tuning the carbs. To this end I > > think that if the stock exhaust is a resonator type as opposed to a > > glasspack, and if so it can be modified it to eliminate almost all > > backpressure. Since I haven't taken mine apart I don't know for sure. I > > have done a drawing of what I think the design of the stock exhaust looks > > like before and after the Hodge mod. I would appreciate it if anyone can > > verify if I'm correct on this. Thinking about doing this leaves me > > wondering whether it would just be better to buy the Vance&Hines or MACS > > setup. But I'm concerned that these systems are glasspacks thus poorly > > tuned, or are just too loud. Once again insight from someone who has these > > setups would be appreciated. According to my calculations the ideal setup > > for zero loss and proper scavenging should be 1 1/8 primaries, into either > > 1 1/2 secondaries if a 4 - 2, or 2" if 4 - 1, the secondaries should be > > roughtly17" long to optimize scavenging in the 4K-7K range. I made a > > drawing of a resonator vs g
[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
Greg, how noticeable was the difference, and would you recommend spending the $450? On Sep 25, 9:16 pm, Greg Holuban wrote: > I have a MAC exhaust. No glasspack at all. The inside piece (which can be > removed with 1 screw) is basically two pipes welded together staggered. I > have a jet kit and KN air filter. Mine revs smoothly. No flat spots or > hesitations. The sound? It won't sound like a crotch rochet. For that you'll > need an Eagle 1 exhaust. Most, people swear by V+H but mine runs great. > Probably worth the extra money for the quality and craftsmanship. > > Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 11:48:13 -0400 > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS > From: althomas...@gmail.com > To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > > I did a search of the forum and before posting this so I think it is a new > topic, sorry if not. Anyway, I am the kind of guy who inspired Tim Taylor, I > modify everything I own. I have done a lot of street/strip racing with cars, > and can't resist the temptation to squeeze a few extra ponies out of my NH. > So I plan on putting in a proper zero loss exhaust, a free flowing intake > filter, and properly jetting and tuning the carbs. To this end I think that > if the stock exhaust is a resonator type as opposed to a glasspack, and if so > it can be modified it to eliminate almost all backpressure. Since I haven't > taken mine apart I don't know for sure. I have done a drawing of what I think > the design of the stock exhaust looks like before and after the Hodge mod. I > would appreciate it if anyone can verify if I'm correct on this. Thinking > about doing this leaves me wondering whether it would just be better to buy > the Vance&Hines or MACS setup. But I'm concerned that these systems are > glasspacks thus poorly tuned, or are just too loud. Once again insight from > someone who has these setups would be appreciated. According to my > calculations the ideal setup for zero loss and proper scavenging should be 1 > 1/8 primaries, into either 1 1/2 secondaries if a 4 - 2, or 2" if 4 - 1, the > secondaries should be roughtly17" long to optimize scavenging in the 4K-7K > range. I made a drawing of a resonator vs glasspack in case some may not know > the difference. The reason for my concern about glasspack mufflers are > because they act as an extension of the secondary, and the longer the > secondary is, the lower the ideal scavenging RPM range. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
Thanks, that is exactly what I wanted to know. BTW I'm not interested in having it LOUD, I just want it to perform to it's potential. On Sep 25, 9:16 pm, Greg Holuban wrote: > I have a MAC exhaust. No glasspack at all. The inside piece (which can be > removed with 1 screw) is basically two pipes welded together staggered. I > have a jet kit and KN air filter. Mine revs smoothly. No flat spots or > hesitations. The sound? It won't sound like a crotch rochet. For that you'll > need an Eagle 1 exhaust. Most, people swear by V+H but mine runs great. > Probably worth the extra money for the quality and craftsmanship. > > Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 11:48:13 -0400 > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS > From: althomas...@gmail.com > To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > > I did a search of the forum and before posting this so I think it is a new > topic, sorry if not. Anyway, I am the kind of guy who inspired Tim Taylor, I > modify everything I own. I have done a lot of street/strip racing with cars, > and can't resist the temptation to squeeze a few extra ponies out of my NH. > So I plan on putting in a proper zero loss exhaust, a free flowing intake > filter, and properly jetting and tuning the carbs. To this end I think that > if the stock exhaust is a resonator type as opposed to a glasspack, and if so > it can be modified it to eliminate almost all backpressure. Since I haven't > taken mine apart I don't know for sure. I have done a drawing of what I think > the design of the stock exhaust looks like before and after the Hodge mod. I > would appreciate it if anyone can verify if I'm correct on this. Thinking > about doing this leaves me wondering whether it would just be better to buy > the Vance&Hines or MACS setup. But I'm concerned that these systems are > glasspacks thus poorly tuned, or are just too loud. Once again insight from > someone who has these setups would be appreciated. According to my > calculations the ideal setup for zero loss and proper scavenging should be 1 > 1/8 primaries, into either 1 1/2 secondaries if a 4 - 2, or 2" if 4 - 1, the > secondaries should be roughtly17" long to optimize scavenging in the 4K-7K > range. I made a drawing of a resonator vs glasspack in case some may not know > the difference. The reason for my concern about glasspack mufflers are > because they act as an extension of the secondary, and the longer the > secondary is, the lower the ideal scavenging RPM range. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
I have a MAC exhaust. No glasspack at all. The inside piece (which can be removed with 1 screw) is basically two pipes welded together staggered. I have a jet kit and KN air filter. Mine revs smoothly. No flat spots or hesitations. The sound? It won't sound like a crotch rochet. For that you'll need an Eagle 1 exhaust. Most, people swear by V+H but mine runs great. Probably worth the extra money for the quality and craftsmanship. Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 11:48:13 -0400 Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS From: althomas...@gmail.com To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com I did a search of the forum and before posting this so I think it is a new topic, sorry if not. Anyway, I am the kind of guy who inspired Tim Taylor, I modify everything I own. I have done a lot of street/strip racing with cars, and can't resist the temptation to squeeze a few extra ponies out of my NH. So I plan on putting in a proper zero loss exhaust, a free flowing intake filter, and properly jetting and tuning the carbs. To this end I think that if the stock exhaust is a resonator type as opposed to a glasspack, and if so it can be modified it to eliminate almost all backpressure. Since I haven't taken mine apart I don't know for sure. I have done a drawing of what I think the design of the stock exhaust looks like before and after the Hodge mod. I would appreciate it if anyone can verify if I'm correct on this. Thinking about doing this leaves me wondering whether it would just be better to buy the Vance&Hines or MACS setup. But I'm concerned that these systems are glasspacks thus poorly tuned, or are just too loud. Once again insight from someone who has these setups would be appreciated. According to my calculations the ideal setup for zero loss and proper scavenging should be 1 1/8 primaries, into either 1 1/2 secondaries if a 4 - 2, or 2" if 4 - 1, the secondaries should be roughtly17" long to optimize scavenging in the 4K-7K range. I made a drawing of a resonator vs glasspack in case some may not know the difference. The reason for my concern about glasspack mufflers are because they act as an extension of the secondary, and the longer the secondary is, the lower the ideal scavenging RPM range. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
