Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: My First Bike - CB650SC ('82 or '83) - A couple small issues

[Allen Thomas]

Yea Jason's 85 has the positive on the right as well.

Allen Thomas

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: My First Bike - CB650SC ('82 or '83) - A couple small issues

[Graham Rogers]

I can't remember the last time I saw a CB650SC that didn't have the positive 
going to the front right and the negative going to the rear right of the 
battery, graham.

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 14, 2014, at 9:21 AM, Arlen Burroughs  wrote:
> 
> I wonder if it was common to replace the wiring setup on them then if it's 
> not stock and kiwinPA has two that are the same. I believe you Kurt that it 
> is not stock as I found the copy of the service manual and it is clear that 
> the lead goes clear over to the left side. But yep, no problems yet.
> 
> I have read a lot of peoples issues where their CDI box went bad on this 
> model of bike or other various electrical issues. Now that I have a battery 
> tender I may just put the old battery in while I charge my new one if the new 
> one ever seems like it's getting low. The old one didn't seem too old/bad, 
> just very low on acid, and it not have been getting the current it needed to 
> recharge from the bike in the long run.
> 
> I notice here in Iowa (Ames) a lot of people do recognize my need for space 
> and are considerate, giving me extra room than if I was in a car. Sometimes 
> they don't pull up close enough to me at stoplights to trip the sensor. They 
> get confused when I motion them forward a bit.
> 
> Here is a video of my cold start this morning, an easy 59 degrees: 
> http://youtu.be/uAyseO_Jx9U
> and after it warmed up: http://youtu.be/PGzXkZV65so
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: My First Bike - CB650SC ('82 or '83) - A couple small issues

[Javier Garcia]

I like Kyle's advice. I always ride as is everyone hates me and they are
all actively trying to kill me.

Javier
On Aug 14, 2014 8:26 AM, "Kyle Munz"  wrote:

>
> I will try out the advice given when starting cold. And I will always
>> think as if I'm invisible to other drivers!
>
>
> Don't pretend that you are invisible, instead always ride as if the other
> drivers do see you, are aware of your location, and are just waiting for
> you to get into a vulnerable position so they can take you out. Recognize
> situations where a car can take you out with a simple flick of the wheel or
> tap on the brakes and avoid them. The best defense is a good offense.
>
>
> -Kyle
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 7:07 AM, Graham Rogers  > wrote:
>
>> Arlen, I have two 83s in my garage right now. Both of them have the
>> positive lead set up the same as yours and I have always used 12A-A
>> batteries.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Aug 14, 2014, at 12:36 AM, Arlen Burroughs  wrote:
>>
>> Thank you all so much for your replies! What a great online community of
>> support!
>>
>> So clearly by the image below, it's an 83. Thanks for that. Good eye on
>> the kill switch and shaft drive, also proves it's surely not an 82.
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> But that means there has been some tampering with the wiring as seen in
>> the next image. Positive post is on the right side! Don't mind the old
>> breather tube from the old battery is still attached. I may run the new
>> breather tube inside the old for a few inches if I can (the old breather
>> tube is loose at connecting end). That is the new Yuasa YB12A-A battery you
>> are looking at. I just filled it with acid yesterday, so no on the dry
>> battery, at least not till my next one. But it worked great for starting
>> this afternoon. I threw on the choke and she fired up right away! I
>> honestly think that the battery was the majority of the starting issue.
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> As for the choke adjustment, it looks like it is already adjusted all the
>> way to the bottom of that silver end on the cable. The screw is also really
>> stripped, but I'm sure I can get it with the right size phillips. I will
>> try in 17 hours after I sleep and work. Let's see how she starts in the
>> morning! Note to *kiwinPA's last message*, I think it is getting full
>> suction, you can see in the below pic that there is no air bubble in the
>> fuel line clear at the back.
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> As for the petcock, the leak is small, only dripping on the ground about
>> half of the times I park it. I've never even seen a drip fall, just close
>> to it when the fuel bunches up at the lowest point.
>>
>> I will try out the advice given when starting cold. And I will always
>> think as if I'm invisible to other drivers!
>>
>> Thanks again to you all for your help. I hope you enjoyed/appreciated my
>> photo feedback! It's something I'll probably always do whenever I post.
>>
>> -Arlen
>>
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: My First Bike - CB650SC ('82 or '83) - A couple small issues

[Arlen Burroughs]

I wonder if it was common to replace the wiring setup on them then if it's 
not stock and kiwinPA has two that are the same. I believe you Kurt that it 
is not stock as I found the copy of the service manual and it is clear that 
the lead goes clear over to the left side. But yep, no problems yet.

I have read a lot of peoples issues where their CDI box went bad on this 
model of bike or other various electrical issues. Now that I have a battery 
tender I may just put the old battery in while I charge my new one if the 
new one ever seems like it's getting low. The old one didn't seem too 
old/bad, just very low on acid, and it not have been getting the current it 
needed to recharge from the bike in the long run.

I notice here in Iowa (Ames) a lot of people do recognize my need for space 
and are considerate, giving me extra room than if I was in a car. Sometimes 
they don't pull up close enough to me at stoplights to trip the sensor. 
They get confused when I motion them forward a bit.

Here is a video of my cold start this morning, an easy 59 degrees: 
http://youtu.be/uAyseO_Jx9U
and after it warmed up: http://youtu.be/PGzXkZV65so

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: My First Bike - CB650SC ('82 or '83) - A couple small issues

[Kyle Munz]

> I will try out the advice given when starting cold. And I will always
> think as if I'm invisible to other drivers!


Don't pretend that you are invisible, instead always ride as if the other
drivers do see you, are aware of your location, and are just waiting for
you to get into a vulnerable position so they can take you out. Recognize
situations where a car can take you out with a simple flick of the wheel or
tap on the brakes and avoid them. The best defense is a good offense.


-Kyle


On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 7:07 AM, Graham Rogers 
wrote:

> Arlen, I have two 83s in my garage right now. Both of them have the
> positive lead set up the same as yours and I have always used 12A-A
> batteries.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Aug 14, 2014, at 12:36 AM, Arlen Burroughs  wrote:
>
> Thank you all so much for your replies! What a great online community of
> support!
>
> So clearly by the image below, it's an 83. Thanks for that. Good eye on
> the kill switch and shaft drive, also proves it's surely not an 82.
>
>
> 
>
> But that means there has been some tampering with the wiring as seen in
> the next image. Positive post is on the right side! Don't mind the old
> breather tube from the old battery is still attached. I may run the new
> breather tube inside the old for a few inches if I can (the old breather
> tube is loose at connecting end). That is the new Yuasa YB12A-A battery you
> are looking at. I just filled it with acid yesterday, so no on the dry
> battery, at least not till my next one. But it worked great for starting
> this afternoon. I threw on the choke and she fired up right away! I
> honestly think that the battery was the majority of the starting issue.
>
>
> 
>
> As for the choke adjustment, it looks like it is already adjusted all the
> way to the bottom of that silver end on the cable. The screw is also really
> stripped, but I'm sure I can get it with the right size phillips. I will
> try in 17 hours after I sleep and work. Let's see how she starts in the
> morning! Note to *kiwinPA's last message*, I think it is getting full
> suction, you can see in the below pic that there is no air bubble in the
> fuel line clear at the back.
>
>
> 
>
> As for the petcock, the leak is small, only dripping on the ground about
> half of the times I park it. I've never even seen a drip fall, just close
> to it when the fuel bunches up at the lowest point.
>
> I will try out the advice given when starting cold. And I will always
> think as if I'm invisible to other drivers!
>
> Thanks again to you all for your help. I hope you enjoyed/appreciated my
> photo feedback! It's something I'll probably always do whenever I post.
>
> -Arlen
>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: My First Bike - CB650SC ('82 or '83) - A couple small issues

[Graham Rogers]

Arlen, I have two 83s in my garage right now. Both of them have the positive 
lead set up the same as yours and I have always used 12A-A batteries. 

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 14, 2014, at 12:36 AM, Arlen Burroughs  wrote:
> 
> Thank you all so much for your replies! What a great online community of 
> support!
> 
> So clearly by the image below, it's an 83. Thanks for that. Good eye on the 
> kill switch and shaft drive, also proves it's surely not an 82.
> 
> 
> 
> But that means there has been some tampering with the wiring as seen in the 
> next image. Positive post is on the right side! Don't mind the old breather 
> tube from the old battery is still attached. I may run the new breather tube 
> inside the old for a few inches if I can (the old breather tube is loose at 
> connecting end). That is the new Yuasa YB12A-A battery you are looking at. I 
> just filled it with acid yesterday, so no on the dry battery, at least not 
> till my next one. But it worked great for starting this afternoon. I threw on 
> the choke and she fired up right away! I honestly think that the battery was 
> the majority of the starting issue.
> 
> 
> 
> As for the choke adjustment, it looks like it is already adjusted all the way 
> to the bottom of that silver end on the cable. The screw is also really 
> stripped, but I'm sure I can get it with the right size phillips. I will try 
> in 17 hours after I sleep and work. Let's see how she starts in the morning! 
> Note to kiwinPA's last message, I think it is getting full suction, you can 
> see in the below pic that there is no air bubble in the fuel line clear at 
> the back.
> 
> 
> 
> As for the petcock, the leak is small, only dripping on the ground about half 
> of the times I park it. I've never even seen a drip fall, just close to it 
> when the fuel bunches up at the lowest point.
> 
> I will try out the advice given when starting cold. And I will always think 
> as if I'm invisible to other drivers!
> 
> Thanks again to you all for your help. I hope you enjoyed/appreciated my 
> photo feedback! It's something I'll probably always do whenever I post.
> 
> -Arlen
> 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: My First Bike - CB650SC ('82 or '83) - A couple small issues

[Kurt Nolte]

Yeah, that's definitely not the stock wiring, but it doesn't look like
trouble yet.

Also, the screw is probably stripped because it's not a Phillips bit. Most
of the "Phillips" screws on these bikes are actually JIS, a Japanese stres
standard that is similar but different enough that an American Phillips
won't fully engage.

Searching eBay for "jis screwdrivers" shows some results, a small
assortment should have all the ones you need for various screws on the bike.

Kurt
On Aug 14, 2014 7:16 AM, "Arlen Burroughs"  wrote:

> Thank you all so much for your replies! What a great online community of
> support!
>
> So clearly by the image below, it's an 83. Thanks for that. Good eye on
> the kill switch and shaft drive, also proves it's surely not an 82.
>
>
> 
>
> But that means there has been some tampering with the wiring as seen in
> the next image. Positive post is on the right side! Don't mind the old
> breather tube from the old battery is still attached. I may run the new
> breather tube inside the old for a few inches if I can (the old breather
> tube is loose at connecting end). That is the new Yuasa YB12A-A battery you
> are looking at. I just filled it with acid yesterday, so no on the dry
> battery, at least not till my next one. But it worked great for starting
> this afternoon. I threw on the choke and she fired up right away! I
> honestly think that the battery was the majority of the starting issue.
>
>
> 
>
> As for the choke adjustment, it looks like it is already adjusted all the
> way to the bottom of that silver end on the cable. The screw is also really
> stripped, but I'm sure I can get it with the right size phillips. I will
> try in 17 hours after I sleep and work. Let's see how she starts in the
> morning! Note to *kiwinPA's last message*, I think it is getting full
> suction, you can see in the below pic that there is no air bubble in the
> fuel line clear at the back.
>
>
> 
>
> As for the petcock, the leak is small, only dripping on the ground about
> half of the times I park it. I've never even seen a drip fall, just close
> to it when the fuel bunches up at the lowest point.
>
> I will try out the advice given when starting cold. And I will always
> think as if I'm invisible to other drivers!
>
> Thanks again to you all for your help. I hope you enjoyed/appreciated my
> photo feedback! It's something I'll probably always do whenever I post.
>
> -Arlen
>
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: My First Bike - CB650SC ('82 or '83) - A couple small issues

[Arlen Burroughs]

Thank you all so much for your replies! What a great online community of 
support!

So clearly by the image below, it's an 83. Thanks for that. Good eye on the 
kill switch and shaft drive, also proves it's surely not an 82.



But that means there has been some tampering with the wiring as seen in the 
next image. Positive post is on the right side! Don't mind the old breather 
tube from the old battery is still attached. I may run the new breather 
tube inside the old for a few inches if I can (the old breather tube is 
loose at connecting end). That is the new Yuasa YB12A-A battery you are 
looking at. I just filled it with acid yesterday, so no on the dry battery, 
at least not till my next one. But it worked great for starting this 
afternoon. I threw on the choke and she fired up right away! I honestly 
think that the battery was the majority of the starting issue.



As for the choke adjustment, it looks like it is already adjusted all the 
way to the bottom of that silver end on the cable. The screw is also really 
stripped, but I'm sure I can get it with the right size phillips. I will 
try in 17 hours after I sleep and work. Let's see how she starts in the 
morning! Note to *kiwinPA's last message*, I think it is getting full 
suction, you can see in the below pic that there is no air bubble in the 
fuel line clear at the back.



As for the petcock, the leak is small, only dripping on the ground about 
half of the times I park it. I've never even seen a drip fall, just close 
to it when the fuel bunches up at the lowest point.

I will try out the advice given when starting cold. And I will always think 
as if I'm invisible to other drivers!

Thanks again to you all for your help. I hope you enjoyed/appreciated my 
photo feedback! It's something I'll probably always do whenever I post.

-Arlen

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: My First Bike

[surfswab]

Clymer and/or Honda service manual, toot sweet.  Either will answer
most of your questions before you even form them.

Read, heed, then ask questions about whatever is confusing or not
covered.



On Apr 13, 9:52 pm, "xXMr.CrossXx"  wrote:
> So I am planning to buy a 1991 Nighthawk as my first bike! I have
> always loved the model. It's the perfect mix of the classic CB and the
> newer street style CB's.  I won't front. I don't know too much about
> riding or the bike yet and I want to know everything there is to know
> so I can have a long, prosperous relationship with my bike.  It's
> obviously used and the owner doesn't have the manual anymore, I was
> curious what advice you all would give this newbie about taking care
> of my bike so that my bike takes care of me.
>
> Thanks all for any and all you have to say!

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: My first bike

[Creative Residential Designs]

You need to either look for a used starter of get a rebuild kit and rebuild 
it. I changed my starter out and it only took about 15 minutes. HotrodMamma.

- Original Message - 
From: "derfer" 
To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" 
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 3:57 PM
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] My first bike


>
> Dear Nighthawk enthusiasts,
>
> I just bought my very first bike that is a 1991 Honda nighthawk CB750.
> I love it. It ran ok aside from obviously being laid down a few times.
> Recently however, after laying it down in my front yard accidentally I
> haven't been able to get the starter to work. At first I was able to
> get it to start, by popping the clutch, but now that won't even work.
> When I try to start it it just tries to crank, then starts clicking. I
> put a new battery in it, and the starter worked for a minute,. but
> then the clicking shortly thereafter. The only ways I have been able
> to get it to start is to jump it off a car, or pop the clutch. Now the
> starter is not doing anything no noise when I push the button,
> nothing. I was just wondering if anyone had any advice for me. could
> it be my battery setup. my alternator, I am going to get a battery
> charger tomorrow, but any help would be awesome thanks.
>
> Marty
>
> >
> 


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