Re: [nlug] Powerline ethernet
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Paul Boniol paul.bon...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Doug Smith w...@earthlink.net wrote: David R. Wilson wrote: If that is the same as broadband over power line I would avoid it like the plague. Find out what spectrum it uses. I worked for a company that did some work for a broadband over power line company. The device that you buy in the store for a simple home network was the same device they used to get you onto their network. The wall plug devices have a mac address and they said a customer could go to the store and buy one and give them the mac to get connected. The devices on the poles were always having issues and had to be replaced a ton. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
Re: [nlug] Powerline ethernet
Many of these devices radiate enough power to cause some severe problems for anyone using short wave radios. Some (as Doug mentions) extend radiation into frequencies used by TV stations. That also means they may have a significant amount of radiation in the FM broadcast band. Those devices not only radiate, many will slow down or stop if there is a strong signal in the area. More info: http://www.arrl.org/broadband-over-powerline-bpl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK3MuTPlHS0 Dave KU4B On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 19:04 -0500, Paul Boniol wrote: On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Doug Smith w...@earthlink.net wrote: David R. Wilson wrote: If that is the same as broadband over power line I would avoid it like the plague. Find out what spectrum it uses. These have been a significant RF noise issue in the U.K., where they're apparently provided with many if not most broadband deployments. They will do ugly things to shortwave radio reception in your neighborhood and may cause problems for over-the-air reception of Channel 5. -- Doug Smith W9WI Pleasant View, TN EM66 I don't have one, so I couldn't tell you. I would think that devices for in-home network sharing over electrical lines in the house would not be powerful enough to cause the same problems as broadband over power-lines from a provider would. But they are doing the same sort of thing... just focused on a more limited scope. So it very well could cause the same RF interference. Paul -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
Re: [nlug] Powerline ethernet
That is probably Fiber To The Home that is being run in Clarksville. It is being deployed by the power company, but a completely different thing from BPL or Ethernet over power lines. There is no RF radiation from that system (AFAIK). There is a somewhat current database of current sites trying to make BPL work. It is: http://p1k.arrl.org/~ehare/bpl/ex2.html As far as I am aware none of the ones out there have been close to profitable. The bandwidth available also leaves a lot to be desired. Dave On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 15:01 -0500, Jack Coats wrote: I know that my daughter really likes her IP over the power lines that she gets through he power company up in Clarksville. Good bandwidth and much cheaper than cable or the phone company. Reliability seems very good so far. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
Re: [nlug] Powerline ethernet
But to verify, I did just go to the CDL web site and communicate with their on-line support (tier 1) folks. They said it is fiber to the house. So I agree and stand corrected. My understanding was different. ... Next time I am there I need to go look at it more closely. On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 3:28 PM, David R. Wilson da...@wwns.com wrote: That is probably Fiber To The Home that is being run in Clarksville. It is being deployed by the power company, but a completely different thing from BPL or Ethernet over power lines. There is no RF radiation from that system (AFAIK). There is a somewhat current database of current sites trying to make BPL work. It is: http://p1k.arrl.org/~ehare/bpl/ex2.htmlhttp://p1k.arrl.org/%7Eehare/bpl/ex2.html As far as I am aware none of the ones out there have been close to profitable. The bandwidth available also leaves a lot to be desired. Dave On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 15:01 -0500, Jack Coats wrote: I know that my daughter really likes her IP over the power lines that she gets through he power company up in Clarksville. Good bandwidth and much cheaper than cable or the phone company. Reliability seems very good so far. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnlug-talk%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
Re: [nlug] Powerline ethernet
If that is the same as broadband over power line I would avoid it like the plague. Find out what spectrum it uses. Dave On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 10:20 -0400, Andrew Farnsworth wrote: Does anyone have any experience with Powerline ethernet and suggestions on what product to get? I have just moved and my new apartment is setup so that I have three rooms that need networking. Being an apartment, EVERYONE has wireless so the bandwidth available is nil. I want to have my data storage in my server room (ok, office / 2nd bedroom) and still have my media accessible in the Living room and bedroom for playing on the TVs there. While I could run wire I cannot wire the place so either I have wire running across the floors or tacked to the walls / ceiling or I find another method. Powerline ethernet is an option I am considering but want to know what experience I can expect before shelling out a couple of hundred bucks for the three adapters I would need. I am currently looking at the Linksys Powerline PLK300 http://www.amazon.com/Cisco-Linksys-PLK300-PowerLine-Ethernet-Adapter/dp/B001J2ZSL4/ref=dp_cp_ob_e_title_2 but am open to suggestions. Andy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
Re: [nlug] Powerline ethernet
David R. Wilson wrote: If that is the same as broadband over power line I would avoid it like the plague. Find out what spectrum it uses. These have been a significant RF noise issue in the U.K., where they're apparently provided with many if not most broadband deployments. They will do ugly things to shortwave radio reception in your neighborhood and may cause problems for over-the-air reception of Channel 5. -- Doug Smith W9WI Pleasant View, TN EM66 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
Re: [nlug] Powerline ethernet
I guess its good WTVF has a UHF translator :) On Aug 31, 2010 6:32 PM, Doug Smith w...@earthlink.net wrote: David R. Wilson wrote: If that is the same as broadband over power line I would avoid it like the plague. Find out what spectrum it uses. These have been a significant RF noise issue in the U.K., where they're apparently provided with many if not most broadband deployments. They will do ugly things to shortwave radio reception in your neighborhood and may cause problems for over-the-air reception of Channel 5. -- Doug Smith W9WI Pleasant View, TN EM66 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnlug-talk%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
[nlug] Powerline ethernet
Does anyone have any experience with Powerline ethernet and suggestions on what product to get? I have just moved and my new apartment is setup so that I have three rooms that need networking. Being an apartment, EVERYONE has wireless so the bandwidth available is nil. I want to have my data storage in my server room (ok, office / 2nd bedroom) and still have my media accessible in the Living room and bedroom for playing on the TVs there. While I could run wire I cannot wire the place so either I have wire running across the floors or tacked to the walls / ceiling or I find another method. Powerline ethernet is an option I am considering but want to know what experience I can expect before shelling out a couple of hundred bucks for the three adapters I would need. I am currently looking at the Linksys Powerline PLK300 http://www.amazon.com/Cisco-Linksys-PLK300-PowerLine-Ethernet-Adapter/dp/B001J2ZSL4/ref=dp_cp_ob_e_title_2 but am open to suggestions. Andy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
Re: [nlug] Powerline ethernet
I have those, and they work great.. On Aug 30, 2010 9:20 AM, Andrew Farnsworth farn...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have any experience with Powerline ethernet and suggestions on what product to get? I have just moved and my new apartment is setup so that I have three rooms that need networking. Being an apartment, EVERYONE has wireless so the bandwidth available is nil. I want to have my data storage in my server room (ok, office / 2nd bedroom) and still have my media accessible in the Living room and bedroom for playing on the TVs there. While I could run wire I cannot wire the place so either I have wire running across the floors or tacked to the walls / ceiling or I find another method. Powerline ethernet is an option I am considering but want to know what experience I can expect before shelling out a couple of hundred bucks for the three adapters I would need. I am currently looking at the Linksys Powerline PLK300 http://www.amazon.com/Cisco-Linksys-PLK300-PowerLine-Ethernet-Adapter/dp/B001J2ZSL4/ref=dp_cp_ob_e_title_2 but am open to suggestions. Andy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnlug-talk%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
Re: [nlug] Powerline ethernet
I used it a little in the past. Not bad but not good either. I tend to remember X10 devices giving some interfeerance, but I was in a single family dwelling and was the only one with any power line devices. ... Back when ATT did a fixed wireless network and telephone combo in the Houston area, the ATT appliance served the internet over the power lines, plus we had to 'login' (at least on my gateway box), then it went to my wired network within the house. ... Jack Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart... Colossians 3:23 On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Andrew Farnsworth farn...@gmail.comwrote: Does anyone have any experience with Powerline ethernet and suggestions on what product to get? I have just moved and my new apartment is setup so that I have three rooms that need networking. Being an apartment, EVERYONE has wireless so the bandwidth available is nil. I want to have my data storage in my server room (ok, office / 2nd bedroom) and still have my media accessible in the Living room and bedroom for playing on the TVs there. While I could run wire I cannot wire the place so either I have wire running across the floors or tacked to the walls / ceiling or I find another method. Powerline ethernet is an option I am considering but want to know what experience I can expect before shelling out a couple of hundred bucks for the three adapters I would need. I am currently looking at the Linksys Powerline PLK300 http://www.amazon.com/Cisco-Linksys-PLK300-PowerLine-Ethernet-Adapter/dp/B001J2ZSL4/ref=dp_cp_ob_e_title_2 but am open to suggestions. Andy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnlug-talk%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
Re: [nlug] Powerline ethernet
... Jack Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart... Colossians 3:23 fax: 630-214-5954 g-voice: 615-746-7104 to leave a message Win more eBay bids .. http://www.ezsniper.com/refimg.php3?user=servant74; Online Backup .. http://www.drbackup.net?pid=Coats On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Jack servan...@gmail.com wrote: I used it a little in the past. Not bad but not good either. I tend to remember X10 devices giving some interfeerance, but I was in a single family dwelling and was the only one with any power line devices. ... Back when ATT did a fixed wireless network and telephone combo in the Houston area, the ATT appliance served the internet over the power lines, plus we had to 'login' (at least on my gateway box), then it went to my wired network within the house. ... Jack Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart... Colossians 3:23 On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Andrew Farnsworth farn...@gmail.comwrote: Does anyone have any experience with Powerline ethernet and suggestions on what product to get? I have just moved and my new apartment is setup so that I have three rooms that need networking. Being an apartment, EVERYONE has wireless so the bandwidth available is nil. I want to have my data storage in my server room (ok, office / 2nd bedroom) and still have my media accessible in the Living room and bedroom for playing on the TVs there. While I could run wire I cannot wire the place so either I have wire running across the floors or tacked to the walls / ceiling or I find another method. Powerline ethernet is an option I am considering but want to know what experience I can expect before shelling out a couple of hundred bucks for the three adapters I would need. I am currently looking at the Linksys Powerline PLK300 http://www.amazon.com/Cisco-Linksys-PLK300-PowerLine-Ethernet-Adapter/dp/B001J2ZSL4/ref=dp_cp_ob_e_title_2 but am open to suggestions. Andy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnlug-talk%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
