Re: [nlug] Red Hat Reveals CentOS Plans

2014-03-28 Thread Kent Perrier
Heh:

Looking ahead, Red Hat appears well on its way to unifying the Red Hat
clones. The one exception will be its frenemy, Oracle with its RHEL-based
Oracle Linuxhttp://www.oracle.com/us/technologies/linux/overview/index.html
.

It would be a cold day in Hell if Larry agreed to work with RedHat like
this.


On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) shadowhun...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Doug moved like November or December of last year. I believe he did take
 his packet operations, I'm not sure. You'd be best to contact David Wilson
 to see if he left anything behind or bequeathed anything to someone else in
 Rutherford County.

  ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured,
 the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all
 irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and
 warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we're all
 damaged. - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG
 episode The Drumhead
 - Alex Smith
 - Dulles Technology Corridor (Chantilly/Ashburn/Dulles), Virginia USA


 On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Mark J. Bailey m...@jobsoft.com wrote:

 Alex,



 When did Doug move??? I assume he took his packet ops with him? I had not
 heard he had left.



 Mark



 *From:* nlug-talk@googlegroups.com [mailto:nlug-talk@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Alex Smith (K4RNT)
 *Sent:* Friday, March 28, 2014 10:05 AM
 *To:* nlug-talk@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [nlug] Red Hat Reveals CentOS Plans



 Fun. I'm planning on deploying Scientific Linux or Oracle Enterprise
 Linux on the servers I'm going to provide one of my ham radio friends in
 West Virginia (Doug Lowe, N1EMP, formerly lived in La Vergne). I have two
 rackmount servers (two Sun Fire X4100s) that I bought on surplus auction,
 and I'd like to give to him. I'm planning on SL/OEL bare metal, with
 VirtualBox running a couple of Windows Server VMs. He has some software
 that will work on Linux, and others that are Windows only.


  ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured,
 the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all
 irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and
 warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we're all
 damaged. - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG
 episode The Drumhead
 - Alex Smith
 - Dulles Technology Corridor (Chantilly/Ashburn/Dulles), Virginia USA



 On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 10:55 AM, John R. Dennison j...@gerdesas.com
 wrote:


 http://www.zdnet.com/red-hat-reveals-centos-plans-727812/?utm_source=dlvr.it




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Re: [nlug] Red Hat Reveals CentOS Plans

2014-03-28 Thread Csaba Toth
What is a packet operation?
On Mar 28, 2014 9:09 AM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) shadowhun...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Doug moved like November or December of last year. I believe he did take
 his packet operations, I'm not sure. You'd be best to contact David Wilson
 to see if he left anything behind or bequeathed anything to someone else in
 Rutherford County.

  ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured,
 the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all
 irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and
 warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we're all
 damaged. - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG
 episode The Drumhead
 - Alex Smith
 - Dulles Technology Corridor (Chantilly/Ashburn/Dulles), Virginia USA


 On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Mark J. Bailey m...@jobsoft.com wrote:

 Alex,



 When did Doug move??? I assume he took his packet ops with him? I had not
 heard he had left.



 Mark



 *From:* nlug-talk@googlegroups.com [mailto:nlug-talk@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Alex Smith (K4RNT)
 *Sent:* Friday, March 28, 2014 10:05 AM
 *To:* nlug-talk@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [nlug] Red Hat Reveals CentOS Plans



 Fun. I'm planning on deploying Scientific Linux or Oracle Enterprise
 Linux on the servers I'm going to provide one of my ham radio friends in
 West Virginia (Doug Lowe, N1EMP, formerly lived in La Vergne). I have two
 rackmount servers (two Sun Fire X4100s) that I bought on surplus auction,
 and I'd like to give to him. I'm planning on SL/OEL bare metal, with
 VirtualBox running a couple of Windows Server VMs. He has some software
 that will work on Linux, and others that are Windows only.


  ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured,
 the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all
 irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and
 warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we're all
 damaged. - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG
 episode The Drumhead
 - Alex Smith
 - Dulles Technology Corridor (Chantilly/Ashburn/Dulles), Virginia USA



 On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 10:55 AM, John R. Dennison j...@gerdesas.com
 wrote:


 http://www.zdnet.com/red-hat-reveals-centos-plans-727812/?utm_source=dlvr.it




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RE: [nlug] Red Hat Reveals CentOS Plans

2014-03-28 Thread Mark J. Bailey
Alex,



When did Doug move??? I assume he took his packet ops with him? I had not 
heard he had left.



Mark



From: nlug-talk@googlegroups.com [mailto:nlug-talk@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Alex Smith (K4RNT)
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 10:05 AM
To: nlug-talk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [nlug] Red Hat Reveals CentOS Plans



Fun. I'm planning on deploying Scientific Linux or Oracle Enterprise Linux 
on the servers I'm going to provide one of my ham radio friends in West 
Virginia (Doug Lowe, N1EMP, formerly lived in La Vergne). I have two 
rackmount servers (two Sun Fire X4100s) that I bought on surplus auction, 
and I'd like to give to him. I'm planning on SL/OEL bare metal, with 
VirtualBox running a couple of Windows Server VMs. He has some software that 
will work on Linux, and others that are Windows only.




 ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the 
first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all 
irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and 
warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we’re all 
damaged. - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG 
episode The Drumhead
- Alex Smith
- Dulles Technology Corridor (Chantilly/Ashburn/Dulles), Virginia USA



On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 10:55 AM, John R. Dennison j...@gerdesas.com wrote:

http://www.zdnet.com/red-hat-reveals-centos-plans-727812/?utm_source=dlvr.it




John
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RE: [nlug] Red Hat Reveals CentOS Plans

2014-03-28 Thread David R. Wilson
Hello Mark,

That is good news to me that there is a LinuxRMS gateway available now.
I still have some packet hardware, but have not had it up in years.  Now
most any computer has enough horsepower to do that without the external
hardware and do a decent job.

Good to hear from Rob,  Been a long time since I had the chance to talk
to him.

If either of us could get away for a bit David would certainly
appreciate a hand on getting the RMS gateway up again.  Having it on
something other than Windows would certainly be a welcome change. 


Dave

On Fri, 2014-03-28 at 13:15 -0500, Mark J. Bailey wrote:
 Yeah, Dave, but what I think I'm about to attempt is the Linux-based second 
 class cousin to Winlink (at least to some of the hardcore windows-only 
 users in the Winlink community), LinuxRMS: 
 http://download.prgm.org/dl5di-soft/rms-gateway/
 
 This is one reason I was sorry to hear Doug had moved as I think he had the 
 only 2m, 1200 baud node on in the area. I think it was on 145.010. But there 
 may be other access points. I also picked up a 9600baud G3RUH daughterboard 
 modem card for my MFJ-1278 packet terminal node controller at a hamfest a 
 couple of years back, so if I got some 440mhz crystals for that old, but 
 working TEKK radio from back in the day, I could connect on 440 MHz as well 
 at 9600 baud. I've been overhauling the gear here of late.
 
 By the way, heard from Bob Reineri (K7RJR) after many years of hiatus. He 
 said to tell you hello! He lives in Central Oregon now.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: nlug-talk@googlegroups.com [mailto:nlug-talk@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of David R. Wilson
 Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 1:01 PM
 To: nlug-talk@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: [nlug] Red Hat Reveals CentOS Plans
 
 Also used for APRS:
 
 http://aprs.fi/#!lat=36.14150lng=-86.85990
 
 That gives position, altitude and can be used for messaging too.  If you 
 look close enough you can sometimes find a call from an NLUG member there.
 
 Winlink uses more than just packet.  It was just one of the more common 
 modes that is still in use.  There is also email capability over the air 
 using PSKMail:
 
 http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/
 
 Dave
 
 
 On Fri, 2014-03-28 at 12:50 -0500, Mark J. Bailey wrote:
  Ham radio digital packet (basically, AX.25) -
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packet_radio
 
 
 
  It used to be very prominent then Internet came along. :) Still used a
  lot for a fairly resilient over the air messaging system called
  ‘Winlink’ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winlink) and for a GPS
  location system called ‘APRS’
  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_Packet_Reporting_System) which is 
  a lot like ACARS for mobile ham radio operators (mostly for coordinating 
  emergency response activities).  If you can tune VHF (like with a police 
  scanner), you can hear area traffic on 144.390 in the Middle Tennessee 
  region. What you will hear on that frequency is 1200 baud packet 
  transmissions. There’s a few web sites that collects and provides others a 
  way to monitor the APRS stations being tracked by the system and collected 
  centrally. http://aprs.fi/ and http://www.openaprs.net/ are a couple I 
  like to use.
 
 
 
  From: nlug-talk@googlegroups.com [mailto:nlug-talk@googlegroups.com]
  On Behalf Of Csaba Toth
  Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 12:40 PM
  To: nlug-talk@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: [nlug] Red Hat Reveals CentOS Plans
 
 
 
  What is a packet operation?
 
  On Mar 28, 2014 9:09 AM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) shadowhun...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Doug moved like November or December of last year. I believe he did
  take his packet operations, I'm not sure. You'd be best to contact
  David Wilson to see if he left anything behind or bequeathed anything
  to someone else in Rutherford County.
 
 
 
   ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech
  censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied,
  chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron
  Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is
  trodden on we’re all damaged. - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron
  Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode The Drumhead
  - Alex Smith
  - Dulles Technology Corridor (Chantilly/Ashburn/Dulles), Virginia USA
 
 
 
 
  On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Mark J. Bailey m...@jobsoft.com
  wrote:
 
  Alex,
 
 
 
  When did Doug move??? I assume he took his packet ops with him? I had
  not heard he had left.
 
 
 
  Mark
 
 
 
  From: nlug-talk@googlegroups.com [mailto:nlug-talk@googlegroups.com]
  On Behalf Of Alex Smith (K4RNT)
  Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 10:05 AM
  To: nlug-talk@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: [nlug] Red Hat Reveals CentOS Plans
 
 
 
  Fun. I'm planning on deploying Scientific Linux or Oracle Enterprise
  Linux on the servers I'm going to provide one of my ham radio friends
  in West Virginia (Doug Lowe, N1EMP, formerly lived in La Vergne). I
  have two rackmount servers (two Sun Fire X4100s

RE: [nlug] Red Hat Reveals CentOS Plans

2014-03-28 Thread Mark J. Bailey
Sure! Will have to see what the schedule holds for next few weeks, but the 
LinuxRMS home page (Yahoo Group - 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/LinuxRMS/info) has been fairly active. 
Seems there is real effort to keep Linux in the packet game but these guys. 
They have been working through the new Sysop authentication changes 
recently, but seem to be making headway.

-Original Message-
From: nlug-talk@googlegroups.com [mailto:nlug-talk@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of David R. Wilson
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 1:58 PM
To: nlug-talk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [nlug] Red Hat Reveals CentOS Plans

Hello Mark,

That is good news to me that there is a LinuxRMS gateway available now.
I still have some packet hardware, but have not had it up in years.  Now 
most any computer has enough horsepower to do that without the external 
hardware and do a decent job.

Good to hear from Rob,  Been a long time since I had the chance to talk to 
him.

If either of us could get away for a bit David would certainly appreciate a 
hand on getting the RMS gateway up again.  Having it on something other than 
Windows would certainly be a welcome change.


Dave

On Fri, 2014-03-28 at 13:15 -0500, Mark J. Bailey wrote:
 Yeah, Dave, but what I think I'm about to attempt is the Linux-based
 second class cousin to Winlink (at least to some of the hardcore
 windows-only users in the Winlink community), LinuxRMS:
 http://download.prgm.org/dl5di-soft/rms-gateway/

 This is one reason I was sorry to hear Doug had moved as I think he
 had the only 2m, 1200 baud node on in the area. I think it was on
 145.010. But there may be other access points. I also picked up a
 9600baud G3RUH daughterboard modem card for my MFJ-1278 packet
 terminal node controller at a hamfest a couple of years back, so if I
 got some 440mhz crystals for that old, but working TEKK radio from
 back in the day, I could connect on 440 MHz as well at 9600 baud. I've 
 been overhauling the gear here of late.

 By the way, heard from Bob Reineri (K7RJR) after many years of hiatus.
 He said to tell you hello! He lives in Central Oregon now.

 -Original Message-
 From: nlug-talk@googlegroups.com [mailto:nlug-talk@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of David R. Wilson
 Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 1:01 PM
 To: nlug-talk@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: [nlug] Red Hat Reveals CentOS Plans

 Also used for APRS:

 http://aprs.fi/#!lat=36.14150lng=-86.85990

 That gives position, altitude and can be used for messaging too.  If
 you look close enough you can sometimes find a call from an NLUG member 
 there.

 Winlink uses more than just packet.  It was just one of the more
 common modes that is still in use.  There is also email capability
 over the air using PSKMail:

 http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/

 Dave


 On Fri, 2014-03-28 at 12:50 -0500, Mark J. Bailey wrote:
  Ham radio digital packet (basically, AX.25) -
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packet_radio
 
 
 
  It used to be very prominent then Internet came along. :) Still used
  a lot for a fairly resilient over the air messaging system called
  ‘Winlink’ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winlink) and for a GPS
  location system called ‘APRS’
  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_Packet_Reporting_System)
  which is a lot like ACARS for mobile ham radio operators (mostly for
  coordinating emergency response activities).  If you can tune VHF
  (like with a police scanner), you can hear area traffic on 144.390
  in the Middle Tennessee region. What you will hear on that frequency
  is 1200 baud packet transmissions. There’s a few web sites that
  collects and provides others a way to monitor the APRS stations
  being tracked by the system and collected centrally. http://aprs.fi/
  and http://www.openaprs.net/ are a couple I like to use.
 
 
 
  From: nlug-talk@googlegroups.com [mailto:nlug-talk@googlegroups.com]
  On Behalf Of Csaba Toth
  Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 12:40 PM
  To: nlug-talk@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: [nlug] Red Hat Reveals CentOS Plans
 
 
 
  What is a packet operation?
 
  On Mar 28, 2014 9:09 AM, Alex Smith (K4RNT)
  shadowhun...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Doug moved like November or December of last year. I believe he did
  take his packet operations, I'm not sure. You'd be best to contact
  David Wilson to see if he left anything behind or bequeathed
  anything to someone else in Rutherford County.
 
 
 
   ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech
  censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied,
  chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron
  Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is
  trodden on we’re all damaged. - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge
  Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode The Drumhead
  - Alex Smith
  - Dulles Technology Corridor (Chantilly/Ashburn/Dulles), Virginia
  USA
 
 
 
 
  On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Mark J. Bailey m...@jobsoft.com
  wrote:
 
  Alex,
 
 
 
  When did Doug