Re: [nlug] MySQL Letter to the EC
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 6:57 PM, John R. Dennison j...@gerdesas.com wrote: I normally do not forward material to this list, but this is important enough to do so. I thought I post this link http://monty-says.blogspot.com/2009/12/help-saving-mysql.html in case anyone isn't aware of this yet and wants to email the EC. I urge users of MySQL to read this link and if they feel inclined (which I hope most of you would) to mail the EC by the listed deadline (tomorrow). Oracle owning MySQL is a horrible thing to contemplate, if for no other reason than their track record with InnoDB. Because of the GPL, Oracle may own the copyrights but they'll have no control. It doesn't matter. As others have said below, MySQL users are better served with Postgres, anyway, maybe this is another good reason to change. Michael -- Michael Darrin Chaney, Sr. mdcha...@michaelchaney.com http://www.michaelchaney.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en.
Re: [nlug] MySQL Letter to the EC
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Michael Chaney mdcha...@michaelchaney.com wrote: Because of the GPL, Oracle may own the copyrights but they'll have no control. It doesn't matter. As others have said below, MySQL users are better served with Postgres, anyway, maybe this is another good reason to change. Yeah, who knows where MySQL is going to end up. -- Greg Donald http://destiney.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en.
Re: [nlug] MySQL Letter to the EC
If you look through the archives, and in fact the internet, you'll find countless why is postgres better than mysql essays. You'll even find a few clueless why mysql is better than everything essays, which can be safely ignored. For me, the bottom line is that postgres was developed from the beginning to be an acid-compliant world-class rdbms. Mysql, on the other hand, was designed originally as a simple data store that could be queried with a subset of sql. Basically, if postgres is unix, mysql is ms-dos. Version 1. Because of its popularity, people have duct-taped reasonable functionality onto the side of mysql, including transactional capabilities, procedural languages, etc. The problem is that there is no reason to bother doing this to mysql when postgres had those capabilities all along. And, yes, I know that people are constantly improving mysql. But it'll never catch postgres because, not surprisingly, people didn't quit developing it 10 years ago. Watching mysql is like watching microsoft promise that the next version of internet explorer is going to really be good, as if catching up to firefox, safari, chrome, konqueror, etc. is even possible for them. Postgres is no more difficult to install, learn, or use than mysql. In terms of capability, there is no comparison. Critch details some of the differences, but he's just scratching the surface. I'm not being specific simply because I don't know where to begin. Others have done a better job of it, anyway, so google it and see. Michael -- Michael Darrin Chaney, Sr. mdcha...@michaelchaney.com http://www.michaelchaney.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en.
Re: [nlug] MySQL Letter to the EC
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Howard Coles dhcol...@gmail.com wrote: It's better than MS owning it, which is what has strongly been hinted at from Redmond. If a fork were to be made right this second of it, would oracle really have the power to force that fork to cease and desist? If so, then open source software has a bigger problem then this one off instance. Andrew McElroy See ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! Choose Life! On Dec 13, 2009 6:57 PM, John R. Dennison j...@gerdesas.com wrote: I normally do not forward material to this list, but this is important enough to do so. I thought I post this link http://monty-says.blogspot.com/2009/12/help-saving-mysql.html in case anyone isn't aware of this yet and wants to email the EC. I urge users of MySQL to read this link and if they feel inclined (which I hope most of you would) to mail the EC by the listed deadline (tomorrow). Oracle owning MySQL is a horrible thing to contemplate, if for no other reason than their track record with InnoDB. John -- Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible. -- Frank Zappa (1940-1993), composer, musician, film director -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en.
Re: [nlug] MySQL Letter to the EC
More reasons to use Postgres. -- Tim On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 6:57 PM, John R. Dennison j...@gerdesas.com wrote: I normally do not forward material to this list, but this is important enough to do so. I thought I post this link http://monty-says.blogspot.com/2009/12/help-saving-mysql.html in case anyone isn't aware of this yet and wants to email the EC. I urge users of MySQL to read this link and if they feel inclined (which I hope most of you would) to mail the EC by the listed deadline (tomorrow). Oracle owning MySQL is a horrible thing to contemplate, if for no other reason than their track record with InnoDB. John -- Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible. -- Frank Zappa (1940-1993), composer, musician, film director -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en.
Re: [nlug] MySQL Letter to the EC
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 8:07 PM, Tim Jackson jackson@gmail.com wrote: More reasons to use Postgres. -- Tim Care to list some of the other reasons? On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 6:57 PM, John R. Dennison j...@gerdesas.com wrote: I normally do not forward material to this list, but this is important enough to do so. I thought I post this link http://monty-says.blogspot.com/2009/12/help-saving-mysql.html in case anyone isn't aware of this yet and wants to email the EC. I urge users of MySQL to read this link and if they feel inclined (which I hope most of you would) to mail the EC by the listed deadline (tomorrow). Oracle owning MySQL is a horrible thing to contemplate, if for no other reason than their track record with InnoDB. John -- Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible. -- Frank Zappa (1940-1993), composer, musician, film director -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en.
