Re: [Nmh-workers] I like neither green eggs and ham nor MIME
Hi Earl, > I have the habit of always converting HTML emails I received into > plain text when I reply Me too! :-) > I did not know Pythogorous wrote in English. If in ASCII, it would > be: Ignoring the malformed octal... ;-) $ egrep '^( +[0-9]{3})+$' ~/mail/inbox/11661 | > tr -s ' ' \\n | > sed '/^$/d; s/$/P/' | > dc | > fmt The sum of the areas of the two squares on the legs of a right triangle equals the area of the square on its hypotenuse $ Cheers, Ralph. ___ Nmh-workers mailing list Nmh-workers@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/nmh-workers
Re: [Nmh-workers] I like neither green eggs and ham nor MIME
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 1:43 PM, wrote: > No. They were not. Before the advent of Mime, that came with the Tower of > Babel, all was was ASCII. If you want to go down the pendantic route, than it was not ASCII. ASCII is how one encodes textual data (in a computer), so if what you say is true, then all the documents you cited would just have been a serious of numbers. Also, ASCII is mainly only useful for English, and much of what you cite was not in English. When I discuss such matters about MIME and pre-MIME email, I use the term "plain text", where the vast majority of email communication can still be adequately done with "plain text" (or to use MIME content-types, "text/plain"). This covers whatever character encoding one may be using (the whole world does not communicate in English). I have the habit of always converting HTML emails I received into plain text when I reply (since the reply quoting semantics are well-established for plain text data and not HTML). I am likely not to win any converts, but it shows that meaningful discussions can still be done in plain text. > If Pythogorous could get along with ASCII so could Netwton: > > The sum of the areas of the two squares on the legs of a right triangle > equals the area of the square on its hypotenuse I did not know Pythogorous wrote in English. If in ASCII, it would be: 084 104 101 032 115 117 109 032 111 102 032 116 104 101 032 097 114 101 097 115 032 111 102 032 116 104 101 032 116 119 111 032 115 113 117 097 114 101 115 032 111 110 032 116 104 101 032 108 101 103 115 032 111 102 032 097 032 114 105 103 104 116 032 116 114 105 097 110 103 108 101 032 101 113 117 097 108 115 032 116 104 101 032 097 114 101 097 032 111 102 032 116 104 101 032 115 113 117 097 114 101 032 111 110 032 105 116 115 032 104 121 112 111 116 101 110 117 115 101 --ewh ___ Nmh-workers mailing list Nmh-workers@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/nmh-workers
Re: [Nmh-workers] I like neither green eggs and ham nor MIME
Ken Hornstein writes: > I hate to be pedantic (okay, I don't really), but wouldn't the Tablets > of Stone have been written in a Hebrew script, No. They were not. Before the advent of Mime, that came with the Tower of Babel, all was was ASCII. > Also, I do not think you could accurately represent the Principia without > some of the mathematical symbols available in Unicode. I mean, it's hard to > do a� + b� = c�, If Pythogorous could get along with ASCII so could Netwton: The sum of the areas of the two squares on the legs of a right triangle equals the area of the square on its hypotenuse Newton did not know about limits. He was too smart to need them. Lesser genius like Bolzano -> Cauchy invented them. Norman Shapiro ___ Nmh-workers mailing list Nmh-workers@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/nmh-workers
Re: [Nmh-workers] I like neither green eggs and ham nor MIME
>ASCII was good enough for my father and his father before him, and his father >before him. The tablets that Moses brought down from Mount Sinai, were in >ASCII, as were Newton's Principia, the Magna Carta, and the United States >Declaration of Independence. I hate to be pedantic (okay, I don't really), but wouldn't the Tablets of Stone have been written in a Hebrew script, and thus could have not been represented in ASCII? My only question is, did they use ISO-8859-8 or Unicode? Also, I do not think you could accurately represent the Principia without some of the mathematical symbols available in Unicode. I mean, it's hard to do a² + b² = c², or √-1 = i, or explain that π goes to ∞ in just ASCII. >MIME is a Communist, Fascist, Perverse, Papal, cabal work of the Devil, to >undermine all that is good, holy, just and right. Meh ... that ship has sailed. I was able receive an Portable Document Format™ file in email, add an electronc signature to it, and send it back all without having to waste any paper. So it's not all bad. --Ken ___ Nmh-workers mailing list Nmh-workers@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/nmh-workers
Re: [Nmh-workers] I like neither green eggs and ham nor MIME
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 12:15 PM, wrote: > ASCII was good enough for my father and his father before him, and his father > before him. The tablets that Moses brought down from Mount Sinai, were in > ASCII, as were Newton's Principia, the Magna Carta, and the United States > Declaration of Independence. Maybe it was in EBCDIC. Now I think I finally know why there is so much religious disagreement: it is a matter of encoding. Maybe the Unicoditian movement can finally bring world peace to all religions. --ewh ___ Nmh-workers mailing list Nmh-workers@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/nmh-workers
Re: [Nmh-workers] I like neither green eggs and ham nor MIME
n...@dad.org wrote: > ASCII was good enough for my father and his father before him, and his father > before him. The tablets that Moses brought down from Mount Sinai, were in > ASCII, ... but imagine how much more fun they'd have been, with pictures and an audio soundtrack. ;-) =-- paul fox, p...@foxharp.boston.ma.us (arlington, ma, where it's 69.1 degrees) ___ Nmh-workers mailing list Nmh-workers@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/nmh-workers
[Nmh-workers] I like neither green eggs and ham nor MIME
ASCII was good enough for my father and his father before him, and his father before him. The tablets that Moses brought down from Mount Sinai, were in ASCII, as were Newton's Principia, the Magna Carta, and the United States Declaration of Independence. MIME is a Communist, Fascist, Perverse, Papal, cabal work of the Devil, to undermine all that is good, holy, just and right. Norman Shapiro ___ Nmh-workers mailing list Nmh-workers@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/nmh-workers