[Nmh-workers] using maildir as mh mailstore
since i'm sure others have thought about this in the past, i have to ask, even though i think the answer is no: can anyone see a way of integrating the mh notion of per-message storage with the maildir notion of per-message storage? i've been trying to think of schemes involving hard- or soft-links, or other ways of rationalizing the namespace differences (i.e., numeric mh names vs. time-inode-host maildir names). but i'm coming up short. the idea, of course, would be to move mh to a more popular, and better-supported mailstore. i might even be willing to sacrifice esoteric mh features that might depend on properties of the mh store, as long as most basic functionality were preserved. paul =- paul fox, p...@foxharp.boston.ma.us (arlington, ma, where it's 27.0 degrees) ___ Nmh-workers mailing list Nmh-workers@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/nmh-workers
Re: [Nmh-workers] using maildir as mh mailstore
Why? What difference does it make if MH's mail store format is non-standard? If you ever need to export things there's packf (although some scripting may be necessary to handle nested folders) to get an mbox. You wouldn't just be sacrificing esoteric features of MH, but also much of ability to easily work with messages via standard tools, and the ability to intuit things about a message based upon its number. OTOH, a FUSE layer that did maildir to MH translation would be an easy way of getting IMAP support via the aforementioned Offline IMAP, and a layer going the other way to make MH look like maildir oughn't be too difficult. Maildir's all about integrity, and pulling all of that into nmh would be non-trivial. Or do you mean perhaps something that can read Maildir, but doesn't adhere to the specs? I'm still unclear as to what is gained. -- Free map of local environmental resources: http://CambridgeMA.GreenMap.org -- MOTD on Setting Orange, the 30th of Chaos, in the YOLD 3176: How did it get so late so soon? It's night before it's afternoon. December is here before it's June. My goodness how the time has flewn. How did it get so late so soon? -Dr. Seuss ___ Nmh-workers mailing list Nmh-workers@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/nmh-workers
Re: [Nmh-workers] using maildir as mh mailstore
Sorry, a little more... Apparently somebody also thought it was a good idea though, and one of the top results from Google for nmh maildir is: http://www.jeenyus.net/linux/mdmh.html Where someone created some reimplementations of MH comamnds for use with maildir; the author seems to have drunk the Kool-Aid as to just how bulletproof maildir is though. Re: Past discussion http://www.mail-archive.com/nmh-work...@mhost.com/msg01224.html -- Free map of local environmental resources: http://CambridgeMA.GreenMap.org -- MOTD on Setting Orange, the 30th of Chaos, in the YOLD 3176: How did it get so late so soon? It's night before it's afternoon. December is here before it's June. My goodness how the time has flewn. How did it get so late so soon? -Dr. Seuss ___ Nmh-workers mailing list Nmh-workers@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/nmh-workers
Re: [Nmh-workers] using maildir as mh mailstore
jerrad wrote: Why? What difference does it make if MH's mail store format is non-standard? better synergy, i suppose. it might open possibilities for sharing the mailstore with other mailers. frankly, i'm not sure what might be gained. but the more time i spend thinking about it, the more i think it's not possible, so it's fairly moot, i guess. If you ever need to export things there's packf (although some scripting may be necessary to handle nested folders) to get an mbox. with the text corruption that that implies. You wouldn't just be sacrificing esoteric features of MH, but also much of ability to easily work with messages via standard tools, and the ability to intuit things about a message based upon its number. i'm not sure why standard tools couldn't continue to work as well as they do now. but i agree that the numbering is certainly something that would need to be preserved. thanks for the pointers in your followup mail. they've helped convince me that i'm not alone in thinking it's not a productive avenue. paul OTOH, a FUSE layer that did maildir to MH translation would be an easy way of getting IMAP support via the aforementioned Offline IMAP, and a layer going the other way to make MH look like maildir oughn't be too difficult. Maildir's all about integrity, and pulling all of that into nmh would be non-trivial. Or do you mean perhaps something that can read Maildir, but doesn't adhere to the specs? I'm still unclear as to what is gained. -- Free map of local environmental resources: http://CambridgeMA.GreenMap.org -- MOTD on Setting Orange, the 30th of Chaos, in the YOLD 3176: How did it get so late so soon? It's night before it's afternoon. December is here before it's June. My goodness how the time has flewn. How did it get so late so soon? -Dr. Seuss ___ Nmh-workers mailing list Nmh-workers@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/nmh-workers =- paul fox, p...@foxharp.boston.ma.us (arlington, ma, where it's 15.6 degrees) ___ Nmh-workers mailing list Nmh-workers@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/nmh-workers
