Re: [Nmh-workers] does dist work?

[Kevin Cosgrove]

On 23 November 2012 at 10:34, Bill Wohler  wrote:

> Jeffrey Honig  writes:
> > I use dist (via mh-e) all the time to add people who were
> > not Cc'd.  Confuses the hell out of Outlook and Thunderbird
> > users.  That's part of the charm.
> 
> I use dist in MH-E all the time too. Most times the recipient
> doesn't even notice.

I experience both responses.  The more savvy readers notice.  I
tell them that I'm using a much more advanced email system than
Outlook, oh, and that the advanced system has its roots in the
email program I used in the 1980s.  Also that exmh had faces long
before Outlook 2010 "innovated" that feature.  ;-)

TTFN

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Re: [Nmh-workers] does dist work?

[Bill Wohler]

Jeffrey Honig  writes:

> I use dist (via mh-e) all the time to add people who were not Cc'd.  Confuses 
> the hell out of
> Outlook and Thunderbird users.  That's part of the charm.

I use dist in MH-E all the time too. Most times the recipient doesn't even 
notice.

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Re: [Nmh-workers] does dist work?

[Jeffrey Honig]

I use dist (via mh-e) all the time to add people who were not Cc'd.
 Confuses the hell out of Outlook and Thunderbird users.  That's part of
the charm.

Thanks

Jeff

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Re: [Nmh-workers] does dist work?

[Ken Hornstein]

>> Sure, mutt(1) for one when you `bounce'.
>
>Heirloom mail for another;  it has `resend' and `Resend' commands;  the
>latter adds no headers.

Fair enough; thanks for the info, Ralph!

--Ken

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Re: [Nmh-workers] does dist work?

[David Levine]

> As Jerrad already explained, that's the way that dist
> works.  I always found it a bit weird myself, but I guess
> the authors of dist didn't want people to alter the draft
> message.  That's part of the reason there's a whole bunch
> of special case code for "dist" in send (the other reason
> is to handle the Resent-* headers).

The reason I started down this path was that mhmail supports:

  mhmail -resent addr(s) -from m...@example.com < `mhpath cur`

-resent was formerly undocumented.  It adds the Resent-*'s and
feeds directly to post (not send, by default).  I was wondering
if that's unnecessary duplication of dist, but I don't think so.
dist supports this:

  dist -to addr [-to addr ...] -from m...@example.com -noedit cur

then on to whatnow.  I expect a user could set things up to
bypass the whatnow step.  But the spirit of mhmail seems to be
to avoid that kind of setup.

> I know those Resent-* headers have been in the RFCs
> forever, but it seems that many MUA authors have forgotten
> about them.  Does anything other than dist generate them?

Looks like Exchange can generate Resent-From.

David

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Re: [Nmh-workers] does dist work?

[Ralph Corderoy]

> Sure, mutt(1) for one when you `bounce'.

Heirloom mail for another;  it has `resend' and `Resend' commands;  the
latter adds no headers.

Cheers, Ralph.

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Re: [Nmh-workers] does dist work?

[Ralph Corderoy]

Hi Ken,

> I know those Resent-* headers have been in the RFCs forever, but it
> seems that many MUA authors have forgotten about them.  Does anything
> other than dist generate them?

Sure, mutt(1) for one when you `bounce'.

Cheers, Ralph.

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Re: [Nmh-workers] does dist work?

[Ken Hornstein]

>> (the other reason is to handle the Resent-* headers).
>
>I use dist a lot.  Note some email clients, Gmail included at one point
>though perhaps not any more, *don't* display the resend-* headers which
>can lead to confusion by recipients.

Do any email clients actually display those headers?  I use exmh a
lot and out of the box it puts those out of the way; you can see
them if you look for them, but by default they're not in the message
window.  My wife dist's me stuff all of the time and it always
puzzled me until I started to look for it.

I know those Resent-* headers have been in the RFCs forever, but it seems
that many MUA authors have forgotten about them.  Does anything other than
dist generate them?

--Ken

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Re: [Nmh-workers] does dist work?

[Ralph Corderoy]

Hi,

> (the other reason is to handle the Resent-* headers).

I use dist a lot.  Note some email clients, Gmail included at one point
though perhaps not any more, *don't* display the resend-* headers which
can lead to confusion by recipients.

Cheers, Ralph.

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Re: [Nmh-workers] does dist work?

[Ken Hornstein]

>dist doesn't seem to work for me.  I've never used it
>before so I might be doing something wrong, but it should be
>simple.  With cur set, I just enter "dist".  The draft just
>contains:

As Jerrad already explained, that's the way that dist works.  I always
found it a bit weird myself, but I guess the authors of dist didn't
want people to alter the draft message.  That's part of the reason there's
a whole bunch of special case code for "dist" in send (the other reason
is to handle the Resent-* headers).

--Ken

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Re: [Nmh-workers] does dist work?

[David Levine]

Jerrad wrote:

> That's as designed, you're resending, as is, not forwarding.
> Did you enter the info and send?

I didn't send.  I tried and it worked.

Thanks!

David

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Re: [Nmh-workers] does dist work?

[Jerrad Pierce]

That's as designed, you're resending, as is, not forwarding.
Did you enter the info and send?

A more useful way to use dist is:

dist -editor prompter

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