Re: [nodejs] Node and developing on multiple machines

2012-06-24 Thread Magnus Skog (@ralphtheninja) 
Excellent. This setup is pretty much exactly what I'm looking for. Thanks 
John!

Also thanks to input from the rest of you guys.

Cheers
/Magnus

Den söndagen den 24:e juni 2012 kl. 05:07:54 UTC+2 skrev John Fitzgerald:
>
> In more detail here's I do it; the application/project I'm working on is 
> always hosted on a cloud CentOS machine(s), that have the git/svn checkout 
> locally, and will run the app there. I have some install scripts that setup 
> everything the way I like it. 
>
> When my client is Windows, I'll use Putty and development via console Vim 
> OR samba mount the repository directory on remote CentOS, then use Sublime 
> Text / Vim. The latter works really well when using a local vmware image 
> for CentOS too.
>
> When my client is Linux, I'll use ssh and console Vim OR sshfs/fuse to 
> mount the repository directory on remote CentOS, then Sublime/Vim again.
>
> The reason it works well for me, is:
> a) I often have non-node stuff necessary for my work like postgresql, 
> redis, cli apps, nginx, postfix, binary content etc.. I can't install those 
> all from scratch on every machine I want to work from.
> b) I want the immediate feedback of save/refresh, so I don't like waiting 
> for rsync or a push/pull.
> c) Some modules won't work cross platform and I don't care about 
> supporting Windows as a server (I think MS support of Node is great though).
> d) This same setup works equally well for python/ruby/php apps as I can't 
> use node exclusively.
> e) My development is under the same conditions as my production 
> environment, so deploying is generally easy.
>
> Biggest downside is your editor may die if it doesn't cache file listings 
> and you have a slower link/big repository.
>
>
> Also, I was using ssh/putty with multitail to monitor log files while I 
> work, but I just started trying out http://logio.org/ as a replacement - 
> fantastic so far.
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 3:17 AM, Ralphtheninja (Magnus Skog) <
> lars.magnus.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ok, so you either do 1 or 2 on linux, or do 1 or 3 on windows? Or do you 
>> combine them?
>>
>>
>> Den lördagen den 23:e juni 2012 kl. 00:22:53 UTC+2 skrev John Fitzgerald:
>>
>>> I do the same as Mark, a few cloud servers that I remote into for 
>>> development. I'm often jumping between a mix of several Win7/Centos/Ubuntu 
>>> machines - to do remote development I use the following scenarios:
>>>
>>> 1. On either, ssh with console vim.
>>> 2. On linux, I'll do a fuse ssh filesystem mount and then use 
>>> vim/sublime text.
>>> 3. On windows, I do an ssh tunnel & samba mount to local drive, then 
>>> vim/sublime text.
>>>
>>> Whatever I'm working on is either tunneled to a local port to access via 
>>> browser, or behind http auth. 
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Mark Hahn  wrote:
>>>
 For what it's worth, I have my only development environment on one 
 "server" and I just remote into it from all the others.  I literally see 
 the same exact environment everywhere.


 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Elijah Insua  wrote:

> dropbox
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Ralphtheninja (Magnus Skog) <
> lars.magnus.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> It's very common that I use several machines while developing and 
>> those machines might also be in different locations. I have two machines 
>> at 
>> home and two machines at my moms etc. There might be more machines in 
>> the 
>> future. My problem is this. No matter where I am, I just want to sit 
>> down 
>> and code and not care about what modules I have installed and where. If 
>> I'm 
>> visiting my mom some day I might find this uber cool module and install 
>> it 
>> globally with npm on that machine. When I get back home I'd like to sync 
>> my 
>> global modules on my other machines, instead of having to remember that 
>> I 
>> installed module X on machine Y. Do you have any recommendations?
>>
>> Thanks
>> /Magnus
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Re: [nodejs] Node and developing on multiple machines

2012-06-23 Thread John Fitzgerald 
In more detail here's I do it; the application/project I'm working on is
always hosted on a cloud CentOS machine(s), that have the git/svn checkout
locally, and will run the app there. I have some install scripts that setup
everything the way I like it.

When my client is Windows, I'll use Putty and development via console Vim
OR samba mount the repository directory on remote CentOS, then use Sublime
Text / Vim. The latter works really well when using a local vmware image
for CentOS too.

When my client is Linux, I'll use ssh and console Vim OR sshfs/fuse to
mount the repository directory on remote CentOS, then Sublime/Vim again.

The reason it works well for me, is:
a) I often have non-node stuff necessary for my work like postgresql,
redis, cli apps, nginx, postfix, binary content etc.. I can't install those
all from scratch on every machine I want to work from.
b) I want the immediate feedback of save/refresh, so I don't like waiting
for rsync or a push/pull.
c) Some modules won't work cross platform and I don't care about supporting
Windows as a server (I think MS support of Node is great though).
d) This same setup works equally well for python/ruby/php apps as I can't
use node exclusively.
e) My development is under the same conditions as my production
environment, so deploying is generally easy.

Biggest downside is your editor may die if it doesn't cache file listings
and you have a slower link/big repository.


Also, I was using ssh/putty with multitail to monitor log files while I
work, but I just started trying out http://logio.org/ as a replacement -
fantastic so far.


On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 3:17 AM, Ralphtheninja (Magnus Skog) <
lars.magnus.s...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ok, so you either do 1 or 2 on linux, or do 1 or 3 on windows? Or do you
> combine them?
>
>
> Den lördagen den 23:e juni 2012 kl. 00:22:53 UTC+2 skrev John Fitzgerald:
>
>> I do the same as Mark, a few cloud servers that I remote into for
>> development. I'm often jumping between a mix of several Win7/Centos/Ubuntu
>> machines - to do remote development I use the following scenarios:
>>
>> 1. On either, ssh with console vim.
>> 2. On linux, I'll do a fuse ssh filesystem mount and then use vim/sublime
>> text.
>> 3. On windows, I do an ssh tunnel & samba mount to local drive, then
>> vim/sublime text.
>>
>> Whatever I'm working on is either tunneled to a local port to access via
>> browser, or behind http auth.
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Mark Hahn  wrote:
>>
>>> For what it's worth, I have my only development environment on one
>>> "server" and I just remote into it from all the others.  I literally see
>>> the same exact environment everywhere.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Elijah Insua  wrote:
>>>
 dropbox


 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Ralphtheninja (Magnus Skog) <
 lars.magnus.s...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> It's very common that I use several machines while developing and
> those machines might also be in different locations. I have two machines 
> at
> home and two machines at my moms etc. There might be more machines in the
> future. My problem is this. No matter where I am, I just want to sit down
> and code and not care about what modules I have installed and where. If 
> I'm
> visiting my mom some day I might find this uber cool module and install it
> globally with npm on that machine. When I get back home I'd like to sync 
> my
> global modules on my other machines, instead of having to remember that I
> installed module X on machine Y. Do you have any recommendations?
>
> Thanks
> /Magnus
>
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Re: [nodejs] Node and developing on multiple machines

2012-06-23 Thread Ralphtheninja (Magnus Skog) 
Ok, so you either do 1 or 2 on linux, or do 1 or 3 on windows? Or do you 
combine them?

Den lördagen den 23:e juni 2012 kl. 00:22:53 UTC+2 skrev John Fitzgerald:
>
> I do the same as Mark, a few cloud servers that I remote into for 
> development. I'm often jumping between a mix of several Win7/Centos/Ubuntu 
> machines - to do remote development I use the following scenarios:
>
> 1. On either, ssh with console vim.
> 2. On linux, I'll do a fuse ssh filesystem mount and then use vim/sublime 
> text.
> 3. On windows, I do an ssh tunnel & samba mount to local drive, then 
> vim/sublime text.
>
> Whatever I'm working on is either tunneled to a local port to access via 
> browser, or behind http auth. 
>
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Mark Hahn  wrote:
>
>> For what it's worth, I have my only development environment on one 
>> "server" and I just remote into it from all the others.  I literally see 
>> the same exact environment everywhere.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Elijah Insua  wrote:
>>
>>> dropbox
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Ralphtheninja (Magnus Skog) <
>>> lars.magnus.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 It's very common that I use several machines while developing and those 
 machines might also be in different locations. I have two machines at home 
 and two machines at my moms etc. There might be more machines in the 
 future. My problem is this. No matter where I am, I just want to sit down 
 and code and not care about what modules I have installed and where. If 
 I'm 
 visiting my mom some day I might find this uber cool module and install it 
 globally with npm on that machine. When I get back home I'd like to sync 
 my 
 global modules on my other machines, instead of having to remember that I 
 installed module X on machine Y. Do you have any recommendations?

 Thanks
 /Magnus

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Re: [nodejs] Node and developing on multiple machines

2012-06-23 Thread Ralphtheninja (Magnus Skog) 
I've tried building up an environment on Dropbox, but it's not entirely 
reliable. Also, it's difficult with compiled binaries and having similar 
but not identical operating systems, e.g. ubuntu on machine A and linux 
minth on machine B etc.

Den lördagen den 23:e juni 2012 kl. 00:00:25 UTC+2 skrev Elijah Insua:
>
> dropbox
>
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Ralphtheninja (Magnus Skog) <
> lars.magnus.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> It's very common that I use several machines while developing and those 
>> machines might also be in different locations. I have two machines at home 
>> and two machines at my moms etc. There might be more machines in the 
>> future. My problem is this. No matter where I am, I just want to sit down 
>> and code and not care about what modules I have installed and where. If I'm 
>> visiting my mom some day I might find this uber cool module and install it 
>> globally with npm on that machine. When I get back home I'd like to sync my 
>> global modules on my other machines, instead of having to remember that I 
>> installed module X on machine Y. Do you have any recommendations?
>>
>> Thanks
>> /Magnus
>>
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Re: [nodejs] Node and developing on multiple machines

2012-06-23 Thread Dan Milon 
I dropped sshfs for some interval'ed rsync because of editors hanging 
when they have to scan directories stat everything and stuff.


On 06/23/2012 09:05 AM, alFReD NSH wrote:

John, mark. Don't you guys have any problem with the latency?




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Re: [nodejs] Node and developing on multiple machines

2012-06-22 Thread alFReD NSH 
John, mark. Don't you guys have any problem with the latency?

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Re: [nodejs] Node and developing on multiple machines

2012-06-22 Thread John Fitzgerald 
I do the same as Mark, a few cloud servers that I remote into for
development. I'm often jumping between a mix of several Win7/Centos/Ubuntu
machines - to do remote development I use the following scenarios:

1. On either, ssh with console vim.
2. On linux, I'll do a fuse ssh filesystem mount and then use vim/sublime
text.
3. On windows, I do an ssh tunnel & samba mount to local drive, then
vim/sublime text.

Whatever I'm working on is either tunneled to a local port to access via
browser, or behind http auth.

On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Mark Hahn  wrote:

> For what it's worth, I have my only development environment on one
> "server" and I just remote into it from all the others.  I literally see
> the same exact environment everywhere.
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Elijah Insua  wrote:
>
>> dropbox
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Ralphtheninja (Magnus Skog) <
>> lars.magnus.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> It's very common that I use several machines while developing and those
>>> machines might also be in different locations. I have two machines at home
>>> and two machines at my moms etc. There might be more machines in the
>>> future. My problem is this. No matter where I am, I just want to sit down
>>> and code and not care about what modules I have installed and where. If I'm
>>> visiting my mom some day I might find this uber cool module and install it
>>> globally with npm on that machine. When I get back home I'd like to sync my
>>> global modules on my other machines, instead of having to remember that I
>>> installed module X on machine Y. Do you have any recommendations?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> /Magnus
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Re: [nodejs] Node and developing on multiple machines

2012-06-22 Thread Mark Hahn 
For what it's worth, I have my only development environment on one "server"
and I just remote into it from all the others.  I literally see the same
exact environment everywhere.

On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Elijah Insua  wrote:

> dropbox
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Ralphtheninja (Magnus Skog) <
> lars.magnus.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> It's very common that I use several machines while developing and those
>> machines might also be in different locations. I have two machines at home
>> and two machines at my moms etc. There might be more machines in the
>> future. My problem is this. No matter where I am, I just want to sit down
>> and code and not care about what modules I have installed and where. If I'm
>> visiting my mom some day I might find this uber cool module and install it
>> globally with npm on that machine. When I get back home I'd like to sync my
>> global modules on my other machines, instead of having to remember that I
>> installed module X on machine Y. Do you have any recommendations?
>>
>> Thanks
>> /Magnus
>>
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Re: [nodejs] Node and developing on multiple machines

2012-06-22 Thread Dan Milon 

That wont work for binary modules.

Is it such an overkill to just install global modules on the fly as you 
need them? on any computer.


On 06/23/2012 01:00 AM, Elijah Insua wrote:

dropbox

On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Ralphtheninja (Magnus Skog) 
mailto:lars.magnus.s...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi,

It's very common that I use several machines while developing and
those machines might also be in different locations. I have two
machines at home and two machines at my moms etc. There might be
more machines in the future. My problem is this. No matter where I
am, I just want to sit down and code and not care about what
modules I have installed and where. If I'm visiting my mom some
day I might find this uber cool module and install it globally
with npm on that machine. When I get back home I'd like to sync my
global modules on my other machines, instead of having to remember
that I installed module X on machine Y. Do you have any
recommendations?

Thanks
/Magnus
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Re: [nodejs] Node and developing on multiple machines

2012-06-22 Thread Elijah Insua 
dropbox

On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Ralphtheninja (Magnus Skog) <
lars.magnus.s...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> It's very common that I use several machines while developing and those
> machines might also be in different locations. I have two machines at home
> and two machines at my moms etc. There might be more machines in the
> future. My problem is this. No matter where I am, I just want to sit down
> and code and not care about what modules I have installed and where. If I'm
> visiting my mom some day I might find this uber cool module and install it
> globally with npm on that machine. When I get back home I'd like to sync my
> global modules on my other machines, instead of having to remember that I
> installed module X on machine Y. Do you have any recommendations?
>
> Thanks
> /Magnus
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