Re: @@ [nonamanis] Anti UU Pornografi dan pornoaksi
Wah, wah.. bkn hanya kongres US aja yg "bermain". Juga bkn hanya di media Wiki aja mereka "susupi". Intrik & konspirasi bisa dilakukan setiap detik, kemanapun juga. CMIIW. On 2/25/06, bryant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: G: Wikipedia lebih seperti ensiklopedia, tapi karena mudah untuk diedit oleh siapapun jadi informasinya sulit dipertanggungjawabkan. Beberapa minggu lalu saya baca di (kalau ga salah) CNN bahwa para staff anggota kongress US banyak sekali "bermain" di Wiki, "menyesuaikan" informasi alias menulis yang baik-baik tentang atasannya dan sebaliknya tentang lawannya. Katanya mereka akan mengadakan perubahan policy tentang pemuatan dan pengeditan artikel supaya lebih bisa dipertanggungjawabkan, tapi menurut saya tetap tidak menjamin, karena tetap saja mudah untuk menulis informasi palsu disana. -Hahhaha..you did a great job G !! bener kata bapak, wikipedia itu kan cuminkamus kan pak yah??..ibaratnya kayak buku pinter, buku yang uda diralatsedemikian rupa, hingga bisa dibaca oleh masyarakat umum... Btw, boleh minta alamat e-mail nya pak?? (pm aja ya pak)thanx-Original Message-From: nonamanis2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:nonamanis2@yahoogroups.com] OnBehalf Of rencong999Sent: 24 Februari 2006 18:18 To: nonamanis2@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: @@ [nonamanis] Anti UU Pornografi dan pornoaksi G: Informasi yang anda dapat banyak yang tidak benarnya. Apalagi dariWikipedia - a very unreliable source. Anda cari tau dulu deh tentangsisteme Wikipedia, baru komentar lagi.Saya tau banyak sekali unfounded rumors yang beredar di kalangan anda. Kemarin ini saya juga baru dengar informasi yang super ngawur tentangkondisi di Malaysia misalnya. Malaysia itu meskipun negara Islam, dalambeberapa aspek cukup liberal bung. Dibandingkan di tempat anda ya seperti bumi dan langit.BTW, dari postingan-postingan anda keliatan anda cuma nyari ribut disini.Yang lain-lain tidak saya loloskan, cuma ini satu saja biar bisa ditanggapi.BTW2, welcome to the ban list. And good riddance. -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playboy_%28magazine%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playboy_%28magazine%29>Bans on the sale of Playboy >>In many parts of Asia, including China, South Korea, India, Burma, >Malaysia, Thailand, Taiwan, Singapore, and Brunei, the sale and >distribution of Playboy is banned. In addition, its sale and >distribution is banned in almost all Muslim countries in Asia and >Africa, such as Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. >However, it is sold in Hong Kong. Also, Japan has its own edition >of Playboy, where according to Japanese custom, the pubic areas of >the models are not shown.>An Indonesian Edition of Playboy launched in March 2006 but the >controversy started before the first issue was published. Even >the publisher said that the content of the Indonesian edition will >be different from the original edition but the government was trying >hard to ban it by using pornographic rules since the Indonesian>government can't ban any media. A local Muslim Organization is >also opposed to Playboy being published on the grounds that it is >pornography.>In 1986, the American convenience store chain 7-Eleven removed>the magazine from its stores. The store returned Playboy to its >shelves in late 2003.>In many counties in the United States, Playboy is not sold in >any stores. In some others, it is only sold in liquor & beer >stores, and as for counties where such stores are forbidden, >it is likely that Playboy is also. Playboy is not sold in the >State of Queensland, Australia. Apparently, >the whole Australian edition of Playboy is discontinued as well. http://playboy.biography.ms/>Bans on the sale of Playboy>--->In Singapore, Playboy is banned. In 2003, the Censorship >Review Committee concluded that the ban should be continued >because the Singaporean community is not ready for Playboy's >liberal use of sexually explicit photographs. >>In the 1980s, a well-publicized ban occurred when the >American convenience store chain 7-Eleven decided to remove >the magazine from its stores. [Singaporee maju kok (bahkan sangat maju jika dibandingkan dengan kita),.. walau pun ga ada playboy...hehe..]Agak aneh juga ya ..posting sdr "Theophilus Bela" ga keliatan..ga ada HIDDEN AGENDA bung g..just to clarify.. bahwa bukan saja 'kelompok tertentu' yang menolak playboy..malah yang lain juga..tapi kalau nga diluluskan.. yah.. apa boleh buat..terserah..khan ini milist yang "bebas"...huhuhu..tentu aja bung g anti "uu anti porno"..khan bung g 'saudaghar porno'..hehe..umm..let me rephrase that..saudahghar "porno yg ada citarasa" hahaha... .. jikalau 'yg lain' menyentuh/provokasi agama "kelompok tertentu"...adakah 'yg lain
RE: @@ [nonamanis] Anti UU Pornografi dan pornoaksi
G: Wikipedia lebih seperti ensiklopedia, tapi karena mudah untuk diedit oleh siapapun jadi informasinya sulit dipertanggungjawabkan. Beberapa minggu lalu saya baca di (kalau ga salah) CNN bahwa para staff anggota kongress US banyak sekali "bermain" di Wiki, "menyesuaikan" informasi alias menulis yang baik-baik tentang atasannya dan sebaliknya tentang lawannya. Katanya mereka akan mengadakan perubahan policy tentang pemuatan dan pengeditan artikel supaya lebih bisa dipertanggungjawabkan, tapi menurut saya tetap tidak menjamin, karena tetap saja mudah untuk menulis informasi palsu disana. - Hahhaha..you did a great job G !! bener kata bapak, wikipedia itu kan cumin kamus kan pak yah??..ibaratnya kayak buku pinter, buku yang uda diralat sedemikian rupa, hingga bisa dibaca oleh masyarakat umum... Btw, boleh minta alamat e-mail nya pak?? (pm aja ya pak) thanx -Original Message- From: nonamanis2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rencong999 Sent: 24 Februari 2006 18:18 To: nonamanis2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: @@ [nonamanis] Anti UU Pornografi dan pornoaksi G: Informasi yang anda dapat banyak yang tidak benarnya. Apalagi dari Wikipedia - a very unreliable source. Anda cari tau dulu deh tentang sisteme Wikipedia, baru komentar lagi. Saya tau banyak sekali unfounded rumors yang beredar di kalangan anda. Kemarin ini saya juga baru dengar informasi yang super ngawur tentang kondisi di Malaysia misalnya. Malaysia itu meskipun negara Islam, dalam beberapa aspek cukup liberal bung. Dibandingkan di tempat anda ya seperti bumi dan langit. BTW, dari postingan-postingan anda keliatan anda cuma nyari ribut disini. Yang lain-lain tidak saya loloskan, cuma ini satu saja biar bisa ditanggapi. BTW2, welcome to the ban list. And good riddance. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playboy_%28magazine%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playboy_%28magazine%29 >Bans on the sale of Playboy > >In many parts of Asia, including China, South Korea, India, Burma, >Malaysia, Thailand, Taiwan, Singapore, and Brunei, the sale and >distribution of Playboy is banned. In addition, its sale and >distribution is banned in almost all Muslim countries in Asia and >Africa, such as Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. >However, it is sold in Hong Kong. Also, Japan has its own edition >of Playboy, where according to Japanese custom, the pubic areas of >the models are not shown. >An Indonesian Edition of Playboy launched in March 2006 but the >controversy started before the first issue was published. Even >the publisher said that the content of the Indonesian edition will >be different from the original edition but the government was trying >hard to ban it by using pornographic rules since the Indonesian >government can't ban any media. A local Muslim Organization is >also opposed to Playboy being published on the grounds that it is >pornography. >In 1986, the American convenience store chain 7-Eleven removed >the magazine from its stores. The store returned Playboy to its >shelves in late 2003. >In many counties in the United States, Playboy is not sold in >any stores. In some others, it is only sold in liquor & beer >stores, and as for counties where such stores are forbidden, >it is likely that Playboy is also. Playboy is not sold in the >State of Queensland, Australia. Apparently, >the whole Australian edition of Playboy is discontinued as well. http://playboy.biography.ms/ >Bans on the sale of Playboy >--- >In Singapore, Playboy is banned. In 2003, the Censorship >Review Committee concluded that the ban should be continued >because the Singaporean community is not ready for Playboy's >liberal use of sexually explicit photographs. > >In the 1980s, a well-publicized ban occurred when the >American convenience store chain 7-Eleven decided to remove >the magazine from its stores. [Singaporee maju kok (bahkan sangat maju jika dibandingkan dengan kita),.. walau pun ga ada playboy...hehe..] Agak aneh juga ya ..posting sdr "Theophilus Bela" ga keliatan..ga ada HIDDEN AGENDA bung g..just to clarify.. bahwa bukan saja 'kelompok tertentu' yang menolak playboy ..malah yang lain juga..tapi kalau nga diluluskan.. yah.. apa boleh buat..terserah..khan ini milist yang "bebas"...huhuhu.. tentu aja bung g anti "uu anti porno"..khan bung g 'saudaghar porno'..hehe..umm..let me rephrase that.. saudahghar "porno yg ada citarasa" hahaha... .. jikalau 'yg lain' menyentuh/provokasi agama "kelompok tertentu"...adakah 'yg lain' ga ada 'hidden agenda' bung g? huhuhuhu... Indonesian girls sites by NonaManis: - MoreNonaManis.com est. 2005 - More Revealing Indonesian Beauties - IndoAmateu
Re: @@ [nonamanis] Anti UU Pornografi dan pornoaksi
G: Informasi yang anda dapat banyak yang tidak benarnya. Apalagi dari Wikipedia - a very unreliable source. Anda cari tau dulu deh tentang sisteme Wikipedia, baru komentar lagi. Saya tau banyak sekali unfounded rumors yang beredar di kalangan anda. Kemarin ini saya juga baru dengar informasi yang super ngawur tentang kondisi di Malaysia misalnya. Malaysia itu meskipun negara Islam, dalam beberapa aspek cukup liberal bung. Dibandingkan di tempat anda ya seperti bumi dan langit. BTW, dari postingan-postingan anda keliatan anda cuma nyari ribut disini. Yang lain-lain tidak saya loloskan, cuma ini satu saja biar bisa ditanggapi. BTW2, welcome to be ban list. And good riddance. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playboy_%28magazine%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playboy_%28magazine%29 >Bans on the sale of Playboy > >In many parts of Asia, including China, South Korea, India, Burma, >Malaysia, Thailand, Taiwan, Singapore, and Brunei, the sale and >distribution of Playboy is banned. In addition, its sale and >distribution is banned in almost all Muslim countries in Asia and >Africa, such as Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. >However, it is sold in Hong Kong. Also, Japan has its own edition >of Playboy, where according to Japanese custom, the pubic areas of >the models are not shown. >An Indonesian Edition of Playboy launched in March 2006 but the >controversy started before the first issue was published. Even >the publisher said that the content of the Indonesian edition will >be different from the original edition but the government was trying >hard to ban it by using pornographic rules since the Indonesian >government can't ban any media. A local Muslim Organization is >also opposed to Playboy being published on the grounds that it is >pornography. >In 1986, the American convenience store chain 7-Eleven removed >the magazine from its stores. The store returned Playboy to its >shelves in late 2003. >In many counties in the United States, Playboy is not sold in >any stores. In some others, it is only sold in liquor & beer >stores, and as for counties where such stores are forbidden, >it is likely that Playboy is also. Playboy is not sold in the >State of Queensland, Australia. Apparently, >the whole Australian edition of Playboy is discontinued as well. http://playboy.biography.ms/ >Bans on the sale of Playboy >--- >In Singapore, Playboy is banned. In 2003, the Censorship >Review Committee concluded that the ban should be continued >because the Singaporean community is not ready for Playboy's >liberal use of sexually explicit photographs. > >In the 1980s, a well-publicized ban occurred when the >American convenience store chain 7-Eleven decided to remove >the magazine from its stores. [Singaporee maju kok (bahkan sangat maju jika dibandingkan dengan kita),.. walau pun ga ada playboy...hehe..] Agak aneh juga ya ..posting sdr "Theophilus Bela" ga keliatan..ga ada HIDDEN AGENDA bung g..just to clarify.. bahwa bukan saja 'kelompok tertentu' yang menolak playboy ..malah yang lain juga..tapi kalau nga diluluskan.. yah.. apa boleh buat..terserah..khan ini milist yang "bebas"...huhuhu.. tentu aja bung g anti "uu anti porno"..khan bung g 'saudaghar porno'..hehe..umm..let me rephrase that.. saudahghar "porno yg ada citarasa" hahaha... .. jikalau 'yg lain' menyentuh/provokasi agama "kelompok tertentu"...adakah 'yg lain' ga ada 'hidden agenda' bung g? huhuhuhu... Indonesian girls sites by NonaManis: - MoreNonaManis.com est. 2005 - More Revealing Indonesian Beauties - IndoAmateurs.com est. 2004 - Indonesian Girls Next Door - ExoticAzza.com est. 2001 - Indonesia Erotica Reopening Soon: - NonaManis.com est. 1997 - Sexy Indonesian Girls Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nonamanis2/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [nonamanis] Anti UU Pornografi dan pornoaksi
saya sangat sepakat dengan argumentasi untuk Undang undang PORGRAF dan PORKSI jangan sampai disahkan sebelum diketahui batasan yang pasti tentang UU tersebut,malah saya menganjurkan Rhoma dan Ineke jangan terlibat sampai berlebihan,kalo saya Ineke ama Rhoma " ngaca" dululah,kita bisa menentang tapi jangan sampai tidak menghargai perasaan orang... Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. Indonesian girls sites by NonaManis: - MoreNonaManis.com est. 2005 - More Revealing Indonesian Beauties - IndoAmateurs.com est. 2004 - Indonesian Girls Next Door - ExoticAzza.com est. 2001 - Indonesia Erotica Reopening Soon: - NonaManis.com est. 1997 - Sexy Indonesian Girls YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "nonamanis2" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [nonamanis] Anti UU Pornografi dan pornoaksi
Saudara-2 sekalian, topik pembicaraan sudah sangat melenceng kearah SARA. Pada prinsipnya semua agama tidak ada yg setuju dengan pornografi dan pornoaksi, so…. Tolong jangan mengkait kait kan dengan agama tertentu. Mendingan ganti topik aja, yuk yak yuk……… From: nonamanis2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Budi Sulistyo Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 9:51 PM To: nonamanis2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [nonamanis] Anti UU Pornografi dan pornoaksi Setubuh eh setuju banget tuh! Kalau UU tersebut jadi diberlakukan, sekalian aja NKRI (Negara Kesatuan Republik Indonesia) diganti sebutannya menjadi NIRI (Negara Islam Republik Indonesia) yang pake dasar Hukum Islam, yang berarti Azas Demokrasi yang selama ini di bangga-banggakan akan runtuh begitu aja. Gimana? Maaf bukan provokasi, tapi coba kita telaah lebih dalam, Thanks. --- pemuja keindahan wanita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Teman teman semua, kita harus rapatkan barisan > menentang UU pornografi dan pornoaksi karena UU > tersebut gak jelas. Batasan tentang porno gak diatur > secara jelas dan juga ada indikasi pembuatan UU > tersebut dengan berdasarkan syariat Islam. Kita > harus menantangnya. Bisa - bisa ini dipakai alat > untuk melegalkan penggrebekan bar, cafe, diskotik > dll oleh orang - orang yang sok agamais dan munafik. > > Yang sangat disayangkan, mengapa Anggota Dewan > mencari pertimbangan ke orang orang yang pernah > tercela seperti Rhoma Irama dan Inneke. > > Agaknya Rhoma Irama bersuara lantang karena gak bisa > dapatkan inul, coba dia kasih tidur ama Inul dan > Inneke tidur ama Anjasmara, pasti akan ceritanya > lain. > > salam keindahan wanita > > > > - > Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Indonesian girls sites by NonaManis: - MoreNonaManis.com est. 2005 - More Revealing Indonesian Beauties - IndoAmateurs.com est. 2004 - Indonesian Girls Next Door - ExoticAzza.com est. 2001 - Indonesia Erotica Reopening Soon: - NonaManis.com est. 1997 - Sexy Indonesian Girls YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "nonamanis2" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [nonamanis] Anti UU Pornografi dan pornoaksi
???pemuja keindahan wanita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Teman teman semua, kita harus rapatkan barisan menentang UU pornografi dan pornoaksi karena UU tersebut gak jelas. Batasan tentang porno gak diatur secara jelas dan juga ada indikasi pembuatan UU tersebut dengan berdasarkan syariat Islam. Kita harus menantangnya. Bisa - bisa ini dipakai alat untuk melegalkan penggrebekan bar, cafe, diskotik dll oleh orang - orang yang sok agamais dan munafik.Yang sangat disayangkan, mengapa Anggota Dewan mencari pertimbangan ke orang orang yang pernah tercela seperti Rhoma Irama dan Inneke.Agaknya Rhoma Irama bersuara lantang karena gak bisa dapatkan inul, coba dia kasih tidur ama Inul dan Inneke tidur ama Anjasmara, pasti akan ceritanya lain.salam keindahan wanita Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. Indonesian girls sites by NonaManis: - MoreNonaManis.com est. 2005 - More Revealing Indonesian Beauties - IndoAmateurs.com est. 2004 - Indonesian Girls Next Door - ExoticAzza.com est. 2001 - Indonesia Erotica Reopening Soon: - NonaManis.com est. 1997 - Sexy Indonesian Girls YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "nonamanis2" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [nonamanis] Anti UU Pornografi dan pornoaksi
setuju bro.. kalo cuman saling debat tapi no action sama juga bo'ong, yang penting gimana cara supaya RUU itu ga di sahkan, ocrey...Pada tanggal 2/12/06, pemuja keindahan wanita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis: Teman teman semua, kita harus rapatkan barisan menentang UU pornografi dan pornoaksi karena UU tersebut gak jelas. Batasan tentang porno gak diatur secara jelas dan juga ada indikasi pembuatan UU tersebut dengan berdasarkan syariat Islam. Kita harus menantangnya. Bisa - bisa ini dipakai alat untuk melegalkan penggrebekan bar, cafe, diskotik dll oleh orang - orang yang sok agamais dan munafik. Yang sangat disayangkan, mengapa Anggota Dewan mencari pertimbangan ke orang orang yang pernah tercela seperti Rhoma Irama dan Inneke.Agaknya Rhoma Irama bersuara lantang karena gak bisa dapatkan inul, coba dia kasih tidur ama Inul dan Inneke tidur ama Anjasmara, pasti akan ceritanya lain. salam keindahan wanita Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! Indonesian girls sites by NonaManis: - MoreNonaManis.com est. 2005 - More Revealing Indonesian Beauties - IndoAmateurs.com est. 2004 - Indonesian Girls Next Door - ExoticAzza.com est. 2001 - Indonesia Erotica Reopening Soon: - NonaManis.com est. 1997 - Sexy Indonesian Girls YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "nonamanis2" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . Indonesian girls sites by NonaManis: - MoreNonaManis.com est. 2005 - More Revealing Indonesian Beauties - IndoAmateurs.com est. 2004 - Indonesian Girls Next Door - ExoticAzza.com est. 2001 - Indonesia Erotica Reopening Soon: - NonaManis.com est. 1997 - Sexy Indonesian Girls YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "nonamanis2" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [nonamanis] Anti UU Pornografi dan pornoaksi
Setubuh eh setuju banget tuh! Kalau UU tersebut jadi diberlakukan, sekalian aja NKRI (Negara Kesatuan Republik Indonesia) diganti sebutannya menjadi NIRI (Negara Islam Republik Indonesia) yang pake dasar Hukum Islam, yang berarti Azas Demokrasi yang selama ini di bangga-banggakan akan runtuh begitu aja. Gimana? Maaf bukan provokasi, tapi coba kita telaah lebih dalam, Thanks. --- pemuja keindahan wanita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Teman teman semua, kita harus rapatkan barisan > menentang UU pornografi dan pornoaksi karena UU > tersebut gak jelas. Batasan tentang porno gak diatur > secara jelas dan juga ada indikasi pembuatan UU > tersebut dengan berdasarkan syariat Islam. Kita > harus menantangnya. Bisa - bisa ini dipakai alat > untuk melegalkan penggrebekan bar, cafe, diskotik > dll oleh orang - orang yang sok agamais dan munafik. > > Yang sangat disayangkan, mengapa Anggota Dewan > mencari pertimbangan ke orang orang yang pernah > tercela seperti Rhoma Irama dan Inneke. > > Agaknya Rhoma Irama bersuara lantang karena gak bisa > dapatkan inul, coba dia kasih tidur ama Inul dan > Inneke tidur ama Anjasmara, pasti akan ceritanya > lain. > > salam keindahan wanita > > > > - > Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Indonesian girls sites by NonaManis: - MoreNonaManis.com est. 2005 - More Revealing Indonesian Beauties - IndoAmateurs.com est. 2004 - Indonesian Girls Next Door - ExoticAzza.com est. 2001 - Indonesia Erotica Reopening Soon: - NonaManis.com est. 1997 - Sexy Indonesian Girls Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nonamanis2/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
