Re: xapian exceptions not caught in python bindings?
Hi all, I know this issue is not easy to fix and that it's partly a problem with xapians bad error handling. I just want to state another problem we run into with xapians exceptions in combination with the python bindings. If you run the following snippet, you notice that not only do we get xapian-garbage on stderr but we don't really get any exceptions at the position where it would make sense: from notmuch import Database bad_querystring = "test AND" # This should raise a NotmuchError and query should be NoneType query = Database().create_query(bad_querystring) # this prints to stderr but returns a Threads object. threads = query.search_threads() # this finally raises a NotmuchError(STATUS.NOT_INITIALIZED) for t in threads: print t Although the querystring is invalid syntactically, the query object gets instantiated and can of course not behave as it should later on. From a user point of view it is really quite strange that only later (if one iterates over threads) an exception is raised. One solution that comes to mind here is simply bending sys.sdterr to something internal, interpreting its output and raising the correct exceptions accordingly. The downside is, this would have to happen every time the library gets called. Also, a fix like this would be python specific, so everybody else would still get garbage printed to stderr occasionally. Thoughts anyone? /p On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 09:27:33PM +0100, Patrick Totzke wrote: > Hi all! > It's me again, with some strange python behaviour :/ > > When I iterate over threads or messages only partially, > then make changes to the index and continue the iteration, > then I don't necessarily get NotmuchError's but the underlying > libnotmuch seems to call terminate. I get the following two lines on > stderr: > terminate called after throwing an instance of > 'Xapian::DatabaseModifiedError' > Aborted > then python aborts without an exception. > This happens on current master with current python bindings. To reproduce > use this to iterate over messages: > > --%<--- > #it_read.py > from notmuch import Query,Database > msgs = Database().create_query('*').search_messages() > > i=0 > for m in msgs: > i=i+1 > if i%50==0: > raw_input() > readit = str(m) > -->%--- > > start it, then use this to change the index: > > --%<--- > #it_write.py > from notmuch import Query,Database > db = Database(mode = Database.MODE.READ_WRITE) > msgs = Query(db,'*').search_messages() > > i=0 > for m in msgs: > i=i+1 > if i%20==0: > m.add_tag('REMOVEME') > -->%--- > > you have to alternate a bit between hitting enter in the > read code and rerunning the write code. > Read will fail at some point. > > The strange thing is that its not consistent: > I stumbled upon this while reading a list of threads from notmuch.threads on > demand. If reading from the iterator catches a NotmuchError, i create a new > one > and update my list threads read so far. This does work, but: on every > NotmuchError, I get this on stderr: > A Xapian exception occurred performing query: The revision being read has > been discarded - you should call Xapian::Database::reopen() and retry the > operation > Query string was: thread:1876 > > After a couple of resets this does not happen again but the next time i read > from an outdated index, the whole UI terminates with the "Aborted" message > stated above. > > To sum up, I think there are two bad things happening here: > 1) should libnotmuch really print to stderr? > 2) the python bindings are either not relaying all exceptions or libnotmuch > is not relaying > all xapian exceptions in order for the bindings to intercept them > > cheers, > /p signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ notmuch mailing list notmuch@notmuchmail.org http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
Re: xapian exceptions not caught in python bindings?
On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 20:35:38 +0100, Patrick Totzke wrote: > If you run the following snippet, you notice that not only do we get > xapian-garbage on stderr but we don't really get any exceptions at the > position where it would make sense: I wouldn't call that "xapian-garbage" since it is output from libnotmuch. d ___ notmuch mailing list notmuch@notmuchmail.org http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
Re: xapian exceptions not caught in python bindings?
Hi all, I hope the patch I send is correctly formated, I'm still fumbling with git send-email and the --in-reply-to option. Anyhow, forgive my language, of course I didn't mean to be condescending in any way by calling these prints garbage! It's just that it's highly unusual and very 'non-pythonic' that a module directly prints to stderr instead of raising exceptions and if you work directly with a curseslike interface on a terminal these errormessages litter my screen. The patch I send is a suggestion how to fix the behaviour described in my last post. It introduces a ContextManager class that can be used to raise messages from stderr as Xapian exceptions like this: > from notmuch.globals import RaiseStderrErrors > with RaiseStderrErrors(): > do_stuff() Now, if one executes: > from notmuch import Database > bad_querystring = "test AND" > query = Database().create_query(bad_querystring --- one gets a nice Xapian exception --- File "syntax.py", line 4, in query = Database().create_query(bad_querystring) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/notmuch/database.py", line 432, in create_query return Query(self, querystring) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/notmuch/database.py", line 514, in __init__ self.create(db, querystr) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/notmuch/database.py", line 547, in create Query._count_messages(self._query) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/notmuch/globals.py", line 123, in __exit__ raise NotmuchError(STATUS.XAPIAN_EXCEPTION, message=err) notmuch.globals.NotmuchError: A Xapian exception occurred: Syntax: AND Query string was: test AND There are two problems with this suggestion however. First, one needs to redirect sdterr to a tempfile: Using StringIO doesn't work since just replacing sys.stderr with something else is not "low level" enough, the messages will still get printed. An alternative is using os.dup2, which replaces the file descriptor of stderr directly, but cStringIO objects dont have .fileno().. see [0,1]. The second problem is, that creating a query object with a malformed querystring doesn't print anything to stderr, only if you use that object errors get printed (notmuch/lib/query.cc). Thus, I call count_messages() once after initialising a new notmuch.databas.Query object (at the end of Query.create). This ensures that Query.__init__() raises an exception when given bad querystrings, but at the cost of triggering an unnecessary count_messages(). best, /p [0]: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5903501/attributeerror-stringio-instance-has-no-attribute-fileno [1]: http://code.activestate.com/recipes/577564-context-manager-for-low-level-redirection-of-stdou/ On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 04:51:41PM -0300, David Bremner wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 20:35:38 +0100, Patrick Totzke > wrote: > > If you run the following snippet, you notice that not only do we get > > xapian-garbage on stderr but we don't really get any exceptions at the > > position where it would make sense: > > I wouldn't call that "xapian-garbage" since it is output from > libnotmuch. > > d signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ notmuch mailing list notmuch@notmuchmail.org http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
Re: xapian exceptions not caught in python bindings?
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 14:36:02 +0100, Patrick Totzke wrote: > I hope the patch I send is correctly formated, I'm still fumbling with > git send-email and the --in-reply-to option. > Anyhow, forgive my language, of course I didn't mean to be condescending in > any > way by calling these prints garbage! It's just that it's highly unusual and > very > 'non-pythonic' that a module directly prints to stderr instead of raising > exceptions > and if you work directly with a curseslike interface on a terminal these > errormessages litter my screen. Hi, 1) I fixed the lack of throwing a NotmuchError when search_threads() failed. This was a bug. 2) Taking over stderr and capturing it in a temporary file whenever we create a query sounds incredibly hackish to me. It also potentially has side-effects that I cannot even judge (we might be using stderr for something completely different). IMHO, libnotmuch should be modified to not directly print to stderr but to provide a string with a detailed error message together with it's status value. This would be the proper way to deal with it, even if it means a bit more complexity in the notmuch binary. Sebastian pgpQ4Dup3eKZi.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ notmuch mailing list notmuch@notmuchmail.org http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch