incrontab?
Hi Adam, interestingly, your 'G' short-cut hint works out of the box! What happens is, that when one presses 'G', this invokes notmuch-hello-poll-and-update. This function calls 'notmuch-poll', which does exactly what I want. I.e. it runs 'notmuch new' if no polling script is specified. In my case however this invokes 'remote-notmuch new' which asks notmuch installed at the server to tag new emails. Lovely. (footnote: It suits me excellently because I'm not seeking for 'mail push' service and rather read my emails whenever I decide to do and not whenever an email arrives - this is why I consider not calling notmuch-poll before every invocation of (notmuch) not as a bug, but just minor annoyance which can be tweaked away if desired) There is just one slightly weird thing. This is when 'notmuch' is opened, the focus goes directly to search button instead of 'inbox' messages (or something else), which is imho more interesting than going into search. Because at first what one wants to do is to look into new emails. Another disadvantage of going directly into search box is, that all shortcuts get inhibited. Is there any way how to set default focus to something else? thanks a lot david Adam Wolfe Gordon writes: > Hi David, > > On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 02:25, David Belohrad wrote: >> is somebody using incrontab to issue 'notmuch new'? I've tried but with >> only partial success. I have setup incrotab to run 'notmuch new' when >> something changes in my Maildir. However it is not >> reliable. E.g. sometimes it works out of the box, sometimes it seems >> that 'notmuch new' is simply not invoked at all even if I see in >> /var/log/mail.log, that a new mail was delivered correctly to the >> folder. Anyone really uses this setup? > > I don't use incrontab, but I do use my own inotify-based script for > updating notmuch: https://gist.github.com/1952483 . I haven't had any > trouble with it. > >> I have reverted back to crontab to issue 'notmuch new' every 5 >> minutes. And frankly speaking, I'm rather thinking to run this command >> from emacs directly everytime I either start notmuch, or refresh view >> using '=' on notmuch-hello buffer. > > You could probably do this with notmuch-hello-refresh-hook, but it > will be a bit tricky: the hook is executed after the notmuch-hello > buffer is refreshed, so you'd have to have it refresh after notmuch > new completes, without running the hook infinitely. > > A better approach might be to use advice. Something like (completely > untested): > > (defadvice notmuch-hello-update (before notmuch-new) (call-process > "notmuch" nil nil nil "new")) > > Hope that helps, > -- Adam
incrontab?
Quoth David Belohrad on Apr 15 at 11:39 pm: > There is just one slightly weird thing. This is when 'notmuch' is > opened, the focus goes directly to search button instead of 'inbox' > messages (or something else), which is imho more interesting than going into > search. Because > at first what one wants to do is to look into new emails. Another > disadvantage of going directly into search box is, that all shortcuts > get inhibited. Is there any way how to set default focus to something > else? This is generally considered to be a bug, but nobody's been brave enough to fix it yet. You can, however, remove the search box entirely by customizing notmuch-hello-sections, which has the side-effect of fixing this (you can still search by hitting 's', so the search box itself is of limited utility).
Re: incrontab?
Quoth David Belohrad on Apr 15 at 11:39 pm: > There is just one slightly weird thing. This is when 'notmuch' is > opened, the focus goes directly to search button instead of 'inbox' > messages (or something else), which is imho more interesting than going into > search. Because > at first what one wants to do is to look into new emails. Another > disadvantage of going directly into search box is, that all shortcuts > get inhibited. Is there any way how to set default focus to something > else? This is generally considered to be a bug, but nobody's been brave enough to fix it yet. You can, however, remove the search box entirely by customizing notmuch-hello-sections, which has the side-effect of fixing this (you can still search by hitting 's', so the search box itself is of limited utility). ___ notmuch mailing list notmuch@notmuchmail.org http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
Re: incrontab?
Hi Adam, interestingly, your 'G' short-cut hint works out of the box! What happens is, that when one presses 'G', this invokes notmuch-hello-poll-and-update. This function calls 'notmuch-poll', which does exactly what I want. I.e. it runs 'notmuch new' if no polling script is specified. In my case however this invokes 'remote-notmuch new' which asks notmuch installed at the server to tag new emails. Lovely. (footnote: It suits me excellently because I'm not seeking for 'mail push' service and rather read my emails whenever I decide to do and not whenever an email arrives - this is why I consider not calling notmuch-poll before every invocation of (notmuch) not as a bug, but just minor annoyance which can be tweaked away if desired) There is just one slightly weird thing. This is when 'notmuch' is opened, the focus goes directly to search button instead of 'inbox' messages (or something else), which is imho more interesting than going into search. Because at first what one wants to do is to look into new emails. Another disadvantage of going directly into search box is, that all shortcuts get inhibited. Is there any way how to set default focus to something else? thanks a lot david Adam Wolfe Gordon writes: > Hi David, > > On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 02:25, David Belohrad wrote: >> is somebody using incrontab to issue 'notmuch new'? I've tried but with >> only partial success. I have setup incrotab to run 'notmuch new' when >> something changes in my Maildir. However it is not >> reliable. E.g. sometimes it works out of the box, sometimes it seems >> that 'notmuch new' is simply not invoked at all even if I see in >> /var/log/mail.log, that a new mail was delivered correctly to the >> folder. Anyone really uses this setup? > > I don't use incrontab, but I do use my own inotify-based script for > updating notmuch: https://gist.github.com/1952483 . I haven't had any > trouble with it. > >> I have reverted back to crontab to issue 'notmuch new' every 5 >> minutes. And frankly speaking, I'm rather thinking to run this command >> from emacs directly everytime I either start notmuch, or refresh view >> using '=' on notmuch-hello buffer. > > You could probably do this with notmuch-hello-refresh-hook, but it > will be a bit tricky: the hook is executed after the notmuch-hello > buffer is refreshed, so you'd have to have it refresh after notmuch > new completes, without running the hook infinitely. > > A better approach might be to use advice. Something like (completely > untested): > > (defadvice notmuch-hello-update (before notmuch-new) (call-process > "notmuch" nil nil nil "new")) > > Hope that helps, > -- Adam ___ notmuch mailing list notmuch@notmuchmail.org http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
incrontab?
Adam Wolfe Gordon writes: > On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 02:25, David Belohrad wrote: >> I have reverted back to crontab to issue 'notmuch new' every 5 >> minutes. And frankly speaking, I'm rather thinking to run this command >> from emacs directly everytime I either start notmuch, or refresh view >> using '=' on notmuch-hello buffer. > > You could probably do this with notmuch-hello-refresh-hook, but it > will be a bit tricky: the hook is executed after the notmuch-hello > buffer is refreshed, so you'd have to have it refresh after notmuch > new completes, without running the hook infinitely. There's notmuch-hello-poll-and-update, bound to 'G' in hello, which runs notmuch-poll-script (customizable; "notmuch new" by default). See the help for those for details. If you want '=' to always do "notmuch new", the easiest way is to rebind it to notmuch-hello-poll-and-update. (But perhaps 'G' is enough?) HTH, Jani.
incrontab?
Hi David, Quoting David Belohrad (2012-04-12 10:25:45) >Dear All, > >is somebody using incrontab to issue 'notmuch new'? I've tried but with >only partial success. I have setup incrotab to run 'notmuch new' when >something changes in my Maildir. However it is not >reliable. E.g. sometimes it works out of the box, sometimes it seems >that 'notmuch new' is simply not invoked at all even if I see in >/var/log/mail.log, that a new mail was delivered correctly to the >folder. Anyone really uses this setup? Yes, kind of. I've extended afew to use inotify to monitor file renames and to add and tag new mails. It works quite nicely and is very fast. But it is a bit rough and does not work with an unpatched version of notmuch. Make sure you just register for IN_MOVED_TO events and you might miss mails if a second mail arrives while notmuch new is still running. Justus
incrontab?
This is a quick guess: maybe you monitor a file while its inode is changing. Do you (or a process) move /var/log/mail.log while monitoriing it? I suggest you have a look to http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.sysutils.incron/16, it helped me to understand better incron...
Re: incrontab?
Adam Wolfe Gordon writes: > On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 02:25, David Belohrad wrote: >> I have reverted back to crontab to issue 'notmuch new' every 5 >> minutes. And frankly speaking, I'm rather thinking to run this command >> from emacs directly everytime I either start notmuch, or refresh view >> using '=' on notmuch-hello buffer. > > You could probably do this with notmuch-hello-refresh-hook, but it > will be a bit tricky: the hook is executed after the notmuch-hello > buffer is refreshed, so you'd have to have it refresh after notmuch > new completes, without running the hook infinitely. There's notmuch-hello-poll-and-update, bound to 'G' in hello, which runs notmuch-poll-script (customizable; "notmuch new" by default). See the help for those for details. If you want '=' to always do "notmuch new", the easiest way is to rebind it to notmuch-hello-poll-and-update. (But perhaps 'G' is enough?) HTH, Jani. ___ notmuch mailing list notmuch@notmuchmail.org http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
incrontab?
Dear All, is somebody using incrontab to issue 'notmuch new'? I've tried but with only partial success. I have setup incrotab to run 'notmuch new' when something changes in my Maildir. However it is not reliable. E.g. sometimes it works out of the box, sometimes it seems that 'notmuch new' is simply not invoked at all even if I see in /var/log/mail.log, that a new mail was delivered correctly to the folder. Anyone really uses this setup? I have reverted back to crontab to issue 'notmuch new' every 5 minutes. And frankly speaking, I'm rather thinking to run this command from emacs directly everytime I either start notmuch, or refresh view using '=' on notmuch-hello buffer. As I'm using remote-notmuch config (using dtach as specified in wiki), I think it would not represent so much additional 'load' (in terms of time to display the emails) to issue refresh the notmuch database with every 'notmuch' refresh. any ideas? thanks d. -- .david.
incrontab?
Hi David, On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 02:25, David Belohrad wrote: > is somebody using incrontab to issue 'notmuch new'? I've tried but with > only partial success. I have setup incrotab to run 'notmuch new' when > something changes in my Maildir. However it is not > reliable. E.g. sometimes it works out of the box, sometimes it seems > that 'notmuch new' is simply not invoked at all even if I see in > /var/log/mail.log, that a new mail was delivered correctly to the > folder. Anyone really uses this setup? I don't use incrontab, but I do use my own inotify-based script for updating notmuch: https://gist.github.com/1952483 . I haven't had any trouble with it. > I have reverted back to crontab to issue 'notmuch new' every 5 > minutes. And frankly speaking, I'm rather thinking to run this command > from emacs directly everytime I either start notmuch, or refresh view > using '=' on notmuch-hello buffer. You could probably do this with notmuch-hello-refresh-hook, but it will be a bit tricky: the hook is executed after the notmuch-hello buffer is refreshed, so you'd have to have it refresh after notmuch new completes, without running the hook infinitely. A better approach might be to use advice. Something like (completely untested): (defadvice notmuch-hello-update (before notmuch-new) (call-process "notmuch" nil nil nil "new")) Hope that helps, -- Adam
Re: incrontab?
Hi David, Quoting David Belohrad (2012-04-12 10:25:45) >Dear All, > >is somebody using incrontab to issue 'notmuch new'? I've tried but with >only partial success. I have setup incrotab to run 'notmuch new' when >something changes in my Maildir. However it is not >reliable. E.g. sometimes it works out of the box, sometimes it seems >that 'notmuch new' is simply not invoked at all even if I see in >/var/log/mail.log, that a new mail was delivered correctly to the >folder. Anyone really uses this setup? Yes, kind of. I've extended afew to use inotify to monitor file renames and to add and tag new mails. It works quite nicely and is very fast. But it is a bit rough and does not work with an unpatched version of notmuch. Make sure you just register for IN_MOVED_TO events and you might miss mails if a second mail arrives while notmuch new is still running. Justus ___ notmuch mailing list notmuch@notmuchmail.org http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
Re: incrontab?
This is a quick guess: maybe you monitor a file while its inode is changing. Do you (or a process) move /var/log/mail.log while monitoriing it? I suggest you have a look to http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.sysutils.incron/16, it helped me to understand better incron... ___ notmuch mailing list notmuch@notmuchmail.org http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
Re: incrontab?
Hi David, On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 02:25, David Belohrad wrote: > is somebody using incrontab to issue 'notmuch new'? I've tried but with > only partial success. I have setup incrotab to run 'notmuch new' when > something changes in my Maildir. However it is not > reliable. E.g. sometimes it works out of the box, sometimes it seems > that 'notmuch new' is simply not invoked at all even if I see in > /var/log/mail.log, that a new mail was delivered correctly to the > folder. Anyone really uses this setup? I don't use incrontab, but I do use my own inotify-based script for updating notmuch: https://gist.github.com/1952483 . I haven't had any trouble with it. > I have reverted back to crontab to issue 'notmuch new' every 5 > minutes. And frankly speaking, I'm rather thinking to run this command > from emacs directly everytime I either start notmuch, or refresh view > using '=' on notmuch-hello buffer. You could probably do this with notmuch-hello-refresh-hook, but it will be a bit tricky: the hook is executed after the notmuch-hello buffer is refreshed, so you'd have to have it refresh after notmuch new completes, without running the hook infinitely. A better approach might be to use advice. Something like (completely untested): (defadvice notmuch-hello-update (before notmuch-new) (call-process "notmuch" nil nil nil "new")) Hope that helps, -- Adam ___ notmuch mailing list notmuch@notmuchmail.org http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
incrontab?
Dear All, is somebody using incrontab to issue 'notmuch new'? I've tried but with only partial success. I have setup incrotab to run 'notmuch new' when something changes in my Maildir. However it is not reliable. E.g. sometimes it works out of the box, sometimes it seems that 'notmuch new' is simply not invoked at all even if I see in /var/log/mail.log, that a new mail was delivered correctly to the folder. Anyone really uses this setup? I have reverted back to crontab to issue 'notmuch new' every 5 minutes. And frankly speaking, I'm rather thinking to run this command from emacs directly everytime I either start notmuch, or refresh view using '=' on notmuch-hello buffer. As I'm using remote-notmuch config (using dtach as specified in wiki), I think it would not represent so much additional 'load' (in terms of time to display the emails) to issue refresh the notmuch database with every 'notmuch' refresh. any ideas? thanks d. -- .david. ___ notmuch mailing list notmuch@notmuchmail.org http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
