[NSP] Etiquette
An OFFLIST reply is precisely that, it wasn't meant to be public but now it is. I stand by what I wrote, as I also stand by not sending it out for public consumption because I have no wish to cause offence. Let the rumpus begin. For the record, I've heard, and played with, many of the choyters and pea-shellers, and they all have qualities which I admire and enjoy. There's no need to set them against each other. If there was only one way to play there would only be a vacancy for one piper on the planet. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Etiquette
I love it Matt but give us a clue. what is a choyter and what is a pea-sheller. Blue skies Ged From: Matt Seattle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 24/05/2006 14:44 To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [NSP] Etiquette An OFFLIST reply is precisely that, it wasn't meant to be public but now it is. I stand by what I wrote, as I also stand by not sending it out for public consumption because I have no wish to cause offence. Let the rumpus begin. For the record, I've heard, and played with, many of the choyters and pea-shellers, and they all have qualities which I admire and enjoy. There's no need to set them against each other. If there was only one way to play there would only be a vacancy for one piper on the planet. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Etiquette
give us a clue. what is a choyter and what is a pea-sheller Maybe the message didn't get through after all then, whew! choyter - slurs notes pea-sheller - plays staccato To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Etiquette, Peas and Choyts
The message did get out, Matt, and I am happy that it did. Write those funky offlists, white boy! The imagery of discreet peas is easy to map to staccato, especially when some have made references to too much staccato as sounding like gatling gunfire. If a choyter is a slurrer, does it follow that an individual slur is a choyt? Does the word choyt derive from onomatopoeia? Sam -Original Message- From: Matt Seattle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 1:54 PM To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [NSP] Re: Etiquette give us a clue. what is a choyter and what is a pea-sheller Maybe the message didn't get through after all then, whew! choyter - slurs notes pea-sheller - plays staccato To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Etiquette, Peas and Choyts
2006/5/24, Sam Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]: too much staccato as sounding like gatling gunfire. In portuguese, we call it estilo metralhadora (machine-gun style)...a favourite for younger skillful pipers...but it's so cheap. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] to choyte or not to choyte
My interpretation of the word 'choyte' is that it refers to gratuitous gracings applied on the small pipe chanter in the manner of the highland pipes. It is interesting that the word 'teuchter' (pronounced chookter), that is applied to Highlanders speaking in the Gaelic in Glasgow, referred to their speech sounding like chickens clucking. Is it possible that Clough had this in mind that when he used the term to choyte he was thinking of the Glasgow derisory term in speaking of pipers playing in that same clucking manner? I think that Chris is dead right in saying that the main theme of New Highland Laddie should be played like slow march and not like the reel Rachel Rae that it is the same as. Colin Ross -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Onlist Re: New Highland Laddie-OK
Sorry! This should have been on-list! -Original Message- From: Chris Ormston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 May 2006 23:30 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [NSP] Re: New Highland Laddie John, At least you know what you're aiming for! It bothers me that so many people don't care! Some of the excuses for bad technique on this thread have been inexcusable i.e. If I'm not up to it, it must be wrong !!! Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 May 2006 23:01 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NSP] Re: New Highland Laddie Chris, Thanks for this - so my theory is on the right track, mostly. Won't say the same about the execution however. I try to get the rippling effect you describe, and it happens sometimes. I try not to choyte, but the semidemiss come out like mushy peas, sometimes, I'm afraid! All the best, John -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: to choyte or not to choyte
I thought choyting was restricted the gracing of lower notes with a cut (quick grace note of a higher note preceeding the playing of a lower note). Does it just mean this (which is common in some NSPers playing) or is it the full Highland gracing arsenal? And whatever the definition of choyting turns out to be, is it always frown upon or just when done frequently? Not wanting to be known as a choyteur, John Liestman [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 4:41 PM To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [NSP] to choyte or not to choyte My interpretation of the word 'choyte' is that it refers to gratuitous gracings applied on the small pipe chanter in the manner of the highland pipes. It is interesting that the word 'teuchter' (pronounced chookter), that is applied to Highlanders speaking in the Gaelic in Glasgow, referred to their speech sounding like chickens clucking. Is it possible that Clough had this in mind that when he used the term to choyte he was thinking of the Glasgow derisory term in speaking of pipers playing in that same clucking manner? I think that Chris is dead right in saying that the main theme of New Highland Laddie should be played like slow march and not like the reel Rachel Rae that it is the same as. Colin Ross -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.1/347 - Release Date: 5/24/2006
